Just watched JK on Road to the White House

[WildEyedLiberal]

Holy crap, now I'm even more jealous of you guys who go to go!

So, um, do you think that Senator Kerry thinks the Rethugs are a lying bunch of immoral cowards?

How many standing O's was that? 12? I think my favorite part was when he said it was immoral that Congress hasn't raised the minimum wage and immoral that any American should have to go without health care. Um, I think my heart skipped a beat on that one. :loveya:

Too bad he's so dull and uninspiring. And all those people coming up to him after the speech - it really is a shame he can't connect, isn't it? At least 8 different people just in that 5 minute clip urging him to run in 2008 - yeah, it's really obvious that Democrats are sick of him and want him to go away. Why can't that damn Kerry just take the hint already??

(:sarcasm: if it wasn't obvious)

Seriously, great speech. I wish I could've been there.

[JI7]

1. can't wait to watch

did they show the pre or after speech parts that people who saw it live or in person were talking about ?

[fedupinBushcountry]

2. Yes they showed some of the after

and did show the one teenage girl whose reaction was that of just meeting a rock star and the cute 11 year old boy.

[JI7]

6. saw the girl

that was so cute. loved the diversity of the crowd.

i hope they also show some Teresa Heinz Kerry events sometime. one of the best cspan campaign events i saw was of her in Iowa.

[ProSense]

3. Awesome speech!

I was loving it, really loving it, until he got to the part about values and Austin Griffin. Wow! The rest of the speech (Stand up!) blew me away. In another environment, if I was in the audience, I could see tossing something on stage...roses! ;)

[TayTay]

4. Yeah, I think that people have 'suited up' for the battle,

And are fully armed and loaded and locked on target. It's an awesome sight, isn't it?

I loved that 'stand up' part, where people did indeed, stand up. (We did a form of that at the MassDem State Convention with the Deval Patrick acceptance speech. When that move works, it can give you the shivers, it's so cool)

That speech was a sheer pleasure to watch. I was also watching the room and there were a lot of people who were nodding their heads in agreement. People are hungry for someone who will stand up and tell the truth about these bastids in Washington who are screwing the American people over and will respond to that with passion.

Feels great to see, don't it?

[ProSense]

5. You're so right!

Enough complicity and timidity! Enough of the people who scream to drown out the voices speaking out against corruption. Enough of the people who slither into the room and pretend they've been there all along! People are sick of it!

[globalvillage]

7. Wisteria and I just finished watching a JK double feature

Road to the WH followed by the Chris Wallace interview.

Man, the Senator was rockin. The speech was great, and he did an awesome job on fox.

It's shameful how little respect Wallace shows for our Democratic leaders. But the Senator drove the interview. Like he says, don't give an inch.

Fearless. That's our guy.

:patriot:

[karynnj]

8. But GV, he didn't point his finger at Wallace and

rage at him. He did do a great job answering every RW biased question thrown at him.

[_dynamicdems]

9. It was incredible! People were energized!

And ah, lots of woo woos.

Did you watch Guiliani just before him on C-Span. He WAS dull. No interruptions there for applause or standing ovations. Not a one. And when the camera drew back after Guiliani finished, you could see polite but very lackluster applause. WHAT a contrast to the cheering, whistling, wooing and standing O's Kerry got!

[beachmom]

10. You know, DD, I heard those "woo woos" on TV, and I have to say

I was thinking "hmmm . . . are those my blogger friends making all that noise?". I'm REALLY glad that it was you guys!! Great performance by the bloggers!

[_dynamicdems]

11. We were responsible for some of them, but there was one guy

(at leasted it sounded like a guy) who made really loud "whoop, whoop" sounds. That wasn't us.
:rofl:

[WildEyedLiberal]

12. Yeah I did see Giuliani

I about needed an IV of caffeine to keep awake - God, he is DULL!!! A monotone speech delivered to a listless crowd punctuated by, as you said, polite but lackluster applause. Of course, I'd be dull and lackluster if I were a Republican too - it must suck to know that you have sold your soul to the devil and are STILL going to get annihilated at the polls.

I noticed it took him about 10 seconds to bring up 9/11. :puke: That's what a Giuliani candidacy promises us - 9/11, 9/11, 9/11 all the time. JK would wipe the floor with this tool.

[Firespirit]

13. I am becoming more and more convinced

that it won't matter who the Republican ticket has on it. Their best option is McCain/Giuliani, and even that ticket is apparently uninspiring.

However... the Likely "Dem" Candidate Who Must Not Be Named would manage to screw it up. There would be a third party challenge that was considerably stronger even than Nader in 2000. The liberals would stay home, vote write-in, or vote Green... the righties would have a MASSIVE GOTV operation to counter their "ultimate horror candidate," and the mushy middlers would probably swing for the Repub ticket (assuming that they did the smart thing, for them, and picked the two that I mentioned). She'd get slaughtered.

Our biggest task is to prevent that scenario from happening. To prevent that Likely Candidate from getting what she wants, and what her people (Carville et al.) were willing to sell JK and America down the river for.

[cmnh]

15. Not to worry.

He may have been in the Navy but he knows how to take a "Hill".

[TayTay]

16. So far, the story of '08 is about Iraq

and about all the fallout of Iraq, some of which is just barely starting to percolate up through the media. There are Repubs who are still being forced by circumstances into a 'stay the course' rhetoric and are not challenging Bush on the most important issue there is. The Likely Dem choice is also not challenging at all and is giving mileqeutoast speeches about Iraq that lack real punch and real conviction.

This race is at the barest beginning and, in a sense, exists in the trenches in the early states so far. The early polls don't mean anything. Remember, something like 1/3rd or 1/2 of Iowa caucus voters made up their minds the weekend before the caucus that cold January. Then the issue and candidate crystalized for them.

We have such a long, long way to go. The first battle is credibility. Then we go on to the next battle.

[wisteria]

22. I agree. battle to batle. n/t

[ProSense]

14. Dull and

an asshole!

[karynnj]

17. WEL, as a fellow midwesterner, how will this play?

Giuliani went to reporters and announced he was getting a divorce before he bothered to tell his wife. His then wife, a media person, was then confronted by reporters asking for her reaction. (She handled it well.) He then wanted to move his mistress in to the governor's mansion where his pre-teen kids and ex-wife were still living. When the court wouldn't let him he moved out of the mansion and into a townhouse with a gay couple who were his friends.

This should give any Democrat the women's vote. These were the real reasons he quit the Senate race. The tabloids couldn't keep up with the story.

[Mass]

18. Between McCain and Guliani, two class acts with their ex-wives.

[WildEyedLiberal]

19. I remember that fiasco. He was going to run against Hillary

Bottom line: the story is a HUGE negative for Giuliani among so-called "values voters" - if he runs against Kerry, who is pretty much an altar boy with no history of sexual impropriety, ever. Not sure how it would play if Hillary was his opponent - one one hand, it might make the Repubs look like hypocrites for dogging Clinton so hard for his "sin," but on the other hand, with some women voters, Hillary's refusal to divorce Bill may neutralize any advantage she'd have from Giuliani's misdeeds.

I DO think Kerry would be in a better position to attack Giuliani for his shameful behavior than Hillary would, because Hillary couldn't do so without looking like a hypocrite thanks to Bill's antics. I'm not sure how Kerry would be able to pull off such blatantly negative campaigning, though - he would probably prefer to take the high road and attack Giuliani's integrity and issues rather than drag the campaign into the morass of dirty laundry politics. There would probably have to be an unaffiliated 527 to push the issue, so Kerry can keep his hands clean.

There's a new book about Giuliani's corruption, though I haven't read it. I think he's a weak candidate and there's only so much gas left in the 9/11 tank.

[karynnj]

25. The more serious allegation that the 911 commission skimmed

over was that the problem of the Firefighters and police radios being incompatible was suposedly a long known and contentious problem that had caused problems before. This was the reason police got the message to get out and firemen didn't. (I'm not sure of the entire debate here - but it was an issue in NYC)

[wisteria]

20. Oh my gosh! He was boring. (Guiliani) I can't even remember what

he spoke about other than money. What exactly do people see in him? He is a leading contender on the Repub side? He was like a lousy dinner. LOL. Then came the best part-the desert. The great and powerful senator with all his passion and indignation about our current fumbling, bumbling, lying administration. Watching it on C-Span was almost as good as being there-almost!

[TayTay]

21. It was a deep pleasure and honor to meet you.

Do you still have the book? (Just had to ask.)

Wasn't it nice to just chat one-on-one with THK? She is the nicest lady, so warm and down-to-earth. We talked about bloggers, organic farming, running for city council in Ames Iowa and what not. Lovely lady.

So are you, btw. It was magical to watch this speech next to you. I think you really liked all the 'idears' that you heard. (LOL!)

We must do this again, only next time with even more people from this here forum. Say, December? A certain lovely and warm and smart lady said she'd be there as well.

[wisteria]

23. The pleasure was all mine-really. Oh my, the book! Yes, yes

I have it safely near me. I take a look at the signature once in awhile and still can't believe it. You know, I watched a recored version of the whole affair from Friday, and after the great senator's speech, many people came up to him for a picture, but I saw no one else get a autograph. I may have been the only one that night. My daughter was thrilled. You know, no one get her name spelled correctly, but he did. She thought that was special.

[TayTay]

24. That was a great speech. I thought the NH Dems were paying

close attention to everything that was said and how it was being said. (And damn, that is a big ole barn of a meeting hall. It felt like a damn airport hanger, the place was so big and had such a high ceiling.)

So, was it chicken or turkey do you think. (GV says Churkey or turcken, not sure which.) It was a much better meal than Nashua in March. (OMG, I am now comparing meals in NH at dinners at which Sen. Kerry appeared and spoke. Ahm, Oh dear. I have enough appearances to make comparisions. That gives me pause. Ahm, I am spoiled. Where is GV when I need her to catch me on my BS?)

[wisteria]

26. i will go with chicken. Usually, they don't bread turkey. I like the term

churkey though.

Oh, yes that was a barn burner speech he gave! I loved the standing ovations. I loved the whistles and whoo-hoos too. It was a very memorable night and a call to action speech.