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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:17 PM
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Kerry calls Bush Iraqi assurance `gigantic blunder'

Associated Press
Mike Glover

IOWA CITY, Iowa --President Bush committed "a gigantic blunder" by giving top Iraqi officials assurances that American forces would remain indefinitely in that war-torn country, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry said Tuesday.

Kerry argued that Bush should have pressured Iraqi leaders to set aside their differences and begin making progress toward assuming responsibility for security, a move that could lead to a lowering of U.S. troop levels.

"The absence of pressure I find is an enormous blunder that gives the Iraqi politicians a free pass to continue the status quo that most Americans understand is a failure, that's not working," Kerry said. "I'm amazed by it."

Kerry, speaking with reporters after appearing at a campaign event with Iowa gubernatorial candidate Chet Culver, was reacting to a 15-minute telephone call Bush had Monday with the Iraqi prime minister. Bush called Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to quell rumors that the United States planned to set a deadline for Iraqis to assume security responsibilities. In his conversation, Bush said there was no deadline and that American troops would remain as long as they were needed.

Bush's comments can be compared to his "bring it on" challenge to terrorists, Kerry said.

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http://www.johnkerry.com/news/articles/newsarticle.html?id=37
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:26 PM
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1. Posted in
GD-P. I couldn't believe Bush had the audacity to say it either!
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:28 PM
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2. Apparently. a certain blogger has a nervous breakdown seeing that
Kerry is so active.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:38 PM
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3. What's with that? n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 05:40 PM
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4. I don't know why I even bothered to look
She supposedly, per her pm, has me on ignore - but that didn't stop her from responding to a post I made that no one else responded to.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:52 PM
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5. See my other thread for reference.
It's actually hilarious to watch the meltdown of all the shrill Kerry haters because he just keeps insisting on fighting Bush.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:58 PM
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6. You got that one right
The more the post and the more nasty they are the more Kerry is getting to them
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:02 PM
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7. Fortunately, it's the same 3 or 4 tools in every thread
They're just so loud and shrill that their numbers seem greater than that.

Same old crap from the same old bitter nasty shills...
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 01:16 PM
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18. They are on other bulletin boards.
I think each one uses differnt screen names so they can seem like hundreds
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:52 PM
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8. The other thread is awesome. As for this particular person, I ignore her
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 07:57 PM by Mass
I think she is getting on the nerves of many people who are not Kerry's supporters. Better let her show her true nature. Her and S&B are now so transparent that it is pathetic.

EDIT: I know it is difficult. I was tempted to answer, then I realized that it is only making it worse.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:55 PM
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9. What's hilarious is that she claims that we are the one everyone hates
So pathetic. She PMs one or two cronies who agree with her and suddenly "all of DU" hates Kerry supporters.

I agree with you - it's part of why I humor her posts - the more belligerent and nasty she reveals herself to be, the more people are going to see past her "I just want everyone to get along" bullshit.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:05 PM
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10. I hope she likes Hill, because she basically posted a poll showing
that Edwards was collapsing and Gore was going down.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:19 PM
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11. It's funny because
I think for the most part we are respected even by some people who disagree with us. I just hit back because she is disputing that the polls on the debate were valid - because they were subjective. I think this effectively rejects all opinion polling, so I think a lot of statisticians will be out of jobs. Is there a no stalking rule here?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:26 PM
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13. Yes, there is
And people should alert when they see someone stalking people from thread to thread.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:20 PM
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17. I have alerted many times these last few days concerning this person.
Actually, I did again a few minutes ago as she sent me a PM with the same BS.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 10:19 PM
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14. Another interesting observation:
Said poster once had a great deal of fun pointing out that once, I had a deleted post in an exchange with her; currently, there is a thread in which three of her posts have been deleted and counting.

I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning...
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:14 PM
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16. Just an attention seeker - I am not sure that it is worth answering
to him. You are just giving her more opportunity to attack.

JMHO, of course.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:23 PM
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12. The Johnkerry.com site has this as the front page and has an
absolutely wonderful photo. Kerry is speaking to what looks like a crowd of students (their backs are to the camera) and Kerry has his hand over his heart and is very seriously speaking to them. The picture fo some reason is very very cool.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 12:10 PM
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15. Cheesus H. Chrisp, anyone see the front of the NYTimes today?
Edited on Wed Oct-18-06 12:12 PM by TayTay
Holy jumped-up Kreest in a side-car:

Iraq Removes Leaders of Special Police





Ahmad al-Rubaye/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images
Women at the wreckage of a market in northern Baghdad Tuesday, after two car bombs killed 20 people in the area on Monday evening.


By SABRINA TAVERNISE
Published: October 18, 2006

BAGHDAD, Oct. 17 — The Iraqi government removed the country’s two most senior police commanders from their posts on Tuesday, in the first broad move against the top leadership of Iraq’s unruly special police forces.

The two generals had led Iraq’s special police commandos and its public order brigade, both widely criticized as being heavily infiltrated by Shiite militias. Their removal comes at a crucial time for Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, who has come under intense American pressure to purge Iraq’s security forces of the militias and death squads that operate within their ranks.

Iraqi politicians, both Shiite and Sunni, have grown increasingly anxious in recent weeks that eroding public and Congressional support for the war in the United States might prompt a major shift in American policy, particularly if the November midterm elections bring gains for the Democrats.

Senior American officials, including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on a visit to Baghdad earlier this month, have issued stark warnings to the Maliki government of growing American impatience, especially at the government’s failure to stop the scourge of death squads operating with the knowledge or support of the Interior Ministry, which oversees the police.

For Mr. Maliki, these concerns have taken on a keen personal edge, exposed Monday when the White House revealed that Mr. Maliki asked President Bush in a telephone call whether there was any truth to rumors that the Americans had plans to replace him “if certain things don’t happen within two months,” in the words of Mr. Bush’s press secretary, Tony Snow.

Mr. Snow said that Mr. Bush reassured Mr. Maliki of American support.


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/18/world/middleeast/18iraq.html?ref=world


This insane bastid Bush finally sees the Iraqi politicians quaking in their boots because they finally think some Americans might actually be holding them accountable for the deaths in Iraq and what does that numbskull moron do? Yeah, he f*cking lets them off the hook.

Damn, damn, damn, damn. Kerry was right in '04, but he was also damn f*cking, arrow-straight, un-friggin-believably right this April when he said that we have to pressure the Iraqis. It f*cking works. And 'sh*t for brains' Bush can't even see it cuz he has his head so firmly jammed up his own ass, all he can see is his own kidneys.

For the love of Gawd, ten friggin Americans died yesterday for your no-good, piece of shit war. And you do this? I hope you burn in hell, you motherf*cking little douchebag.

Damn Kerry was right. That and a cup of tears is all we have now. Damn, damn, damn, damn. When Democrats get elected I hope they come down like a f*cking ton of bricks on this tin-horned, little doofus and his crappy little slaughter house in Iraq. What a gawddamned c**ks*cking piece of slimey horse dung. Rot in hell you baby killing bastard.
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