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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:38 PM
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Salon: The virtual John Kerry
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The virtual John Kerry

With an e-mail list 3 million strong, the newly reformed liberal is primed for another White House run. But strategists warn against relying on the Internet to win in 2008.

By Michael Scherer

Dec. 13, 2006 | If you just look at his fundraising numbers, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry appears to be in top political form, a veritable contender for the Democratic heavyweight title.

Among all of the 2008 White House wannabes, Kerry campaigned in more races (81), recruited more grass-roots volunteers (5,000), and gave money to more Democratic candidates (260) than anyone else during the last midterm election cycle. In 24 hours, his network of supporters drummed up and delivered $1 million to pay for the final media buys of four Senate candidates in close elections. In total, he raised and distributed to other Democrats $14 million, outdone only by Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., who gave away $21 million. At Kerry's urging, Americans made 215,000 donations to Democrats before September.

"I think it was huge. We put a lot of money out there," Kerry said in an interview, taking a break in a stuffed chair in his Capitol Hill office a couple of days before the 109th Congress ended this month. "We did a lot of mobilizing. We did a lot of messaging. We did a lot of energizing and educating."

Kerry was not only speaking of his efforts as a traditional Democratic leader, a man who toured the country with endless hotel ballroom appearances and obligatory telephone calls to high-dollar donors. He was also speaking about the performance of his e-mail list -- a 3-million-strong gold mine made up of supporters and donors to his 2004 presidential campaign. As much as any other single factor, the list allowed Kerry to establish himself as a major benefactor for Congress' incoming freshman class, a godsend who filled candidates' coffers at key times in the campaign. For Kerry, all it took was a few well-written paragraphs trumping the need for money, and a staffer willing to hit the send button for millions of e-mails.

But e-mail alone will never deliver a candidate to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Especially John Kerry, whose status as one of the Democratic Party's most prolific fundraisers has not yet translated into tangible enthusiasm for his potential 2008 White House run. In fact, any Kerry 2008 campaign effort is already broadly seen to be on life support, hampered by a botched joke about President Bush in October, lingering resentment for his 2004 loss and mixed success with Kerry's most recent effort to reinvent himself as a muscular spokesman against President Bush's Iraq policy. A recent poll of political insiders by the National Journal did not even rank Kerry in a list of the top 10 Democratic contenders for the White House. And a likability poll by Quinnipiac University found that Kerry ranked near the bottom of presidential contenders in September, well before his October gaffe, which sent his approval numbers plummeting to dead last among 2008 contenders. On Monday, Kerry's friend and fellow Massachusetts Sen. Ted Kennedy even hinted in public comments that he may endorse a candidate for president in 2008 other than Kerry.

Online political strategists, who live and die by the effectiveness of e-mail solicitation, have no trouble explaining away the apparent disconnect between Kerry's prolific ability to raise money online and his inability to garner broader public support. E-mail solicitation, they explain, is only as good as the product it is selling, and Kerry's success during 2006 came largely because he was working so selflessly for a Democratic takeover of Congress. "It wasn't on the power of John Kerry," explained one Democratic Internet strategist, who did not want to be identified while criticizing Kerry. "It was on the power of his e-mail list, and frankly, if he runs for president, I doubt that list will support him."

This is a key lesson, say strategists, for the dozen or so presidential campaigns that are now developing their own online strategies for 2008. Internet donors do not demand the same degree of access and favors as traditional high-dollar donors, but there is a trade-off: They are also far less tied to any single personality in politics. Online, it is often the message that matters as much as the messenger. "In e-mail fundraising, what you ask people to try to do your credibility. It's all you've got," said Tom Matzzie, who helped raise $27 million in the 2006 cycle from MoveOn.org's 3.2 million-member e-mail list. "People will stick with you as long as your ask is credible." In other words, Kerry may have better luck motivating his list to give money to close Senate races on the eve of an election, when there is a high chance of a payoff, than to support his presidential aspirations, which appear to be more of a long shot.

Consultants working on the 2008 presidential campaigns have already begun making grand predictions about the Internet's evolving role as a sort of ATM machine for campaigns with exciting messages and candidates. "There is an unlimited amount of money," said Rich Galen, an advisor to 2008 GOP candidate Newt Gingrich, at a recent campaign consultant forum sponsored by National Journal's Hotline and the University of Virginia. At the same event, other consultants fell over themselves expressing their enthusiasm about all the political money now ripe for the picking. "You can raise it quicker and raise it more easily," agreed Mark McKinnon, an advisor to Arizona Sen. John McCain and a former media director for President Bush's 2004 campaign. "Things can happen overnight."

But it remains an open question whether the flood of online money in 2008 will match the phenomenon of 2004, when all expectations were broken. Between the March primaries and the July convention in Boston, the Kerry campaign pulled in between $80 million and $85 million online, about 25 percent of all the money he raised. Even after the convention, when Kerry stopped accepting donations so he could take federal matching funds, his online fundraising machine continued to raise tens of millions of dollars for the Democratic National Committee.

"Not anybody can do this. This was a perfect storm of energy and passion, having an identifiable enemy and a war," said David Thorne, a close friend of Kerry's who ran his Internet operation in 2004. "It is my question as to whether any 2008 candidate will be able to build the kind of list we built in 2004," he said. "My sense is not. The energy will be more dissipated." Ari Rabin-Havt, a former Kerry Internet advisor who now works for Nevada Sen. Harry Reid, the incoming majority leader, also cautioned presidential contenders against taking Internet fundraising for granted. "Consultants can not stick in their card and then pull cash out for their candidate," he said. "It takes work and a candidate who can really reach out."

Already there are some early standouts in online fundraising among Democrats from the 2006 cycle, though neither is a 2008 contender. Both Reid and Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., who will chair the Environment and Public Works committee, have been actively building their own e-mail lists through online solicitations and cross-promotions with groups like MoveOn. Though both e-mail lists number in the low six figures, they performed admirably in 2006, with Boxer raising nearly $1 million for other Democrats and Reid pulling in about $850,000, according to the campaigns. The Democratic National Committee, which shares many e-mail addresses with the Kerry list, also operates a list of about 3.5 million names, though the committee does not disclose how much money it raises online.

For many in online political consulting, Kerry's e-mail list is both a lesson in the power of the Internet and a cautionary tale of its limits. From the beginning, Kerry says he took seriously his responsibility to continue the work that his supporters started in 2004. "It just struck me," Kerry said, during the interview at his office in early December. "People put themselves on the line for this effort, and we shouldn't just go away." But even as Kerry sent out e-mails to promote everything from children's healthcare to fundraising for other candidates, it was clear that he was also attempting to use the list to rehabilitate his own image by undoing the miscues in the 2004 campaign, when Democrats blamed him for not being aggressive enough with Republican attacks. Kerry's e-mails regularly alerted readers of the "amazing response" to his speeches, warned of Republican "swift-boat style attacks," and repeatedly used language such as: "No matter what they throw at us in 2006 ... we will never surrender. We will always fight back."

Indeed, Kerry, the centrist presidential contender, has been actively rebranding himself as a hard-charging hero of the Democratic Party's liberal base, a role he had played previous to the 2004 campaign. In 2006, he sponsored a last-minute bid to filibuster Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, even though it was clear he had no chance of succeeding. He organized an equally symbolic petition and advertising campaign in late 2005 demanding that President Bush withdraw 20,000 troops from Iraq "for the holidays." With the help of his e-mail list, he was an early and visible proponent of replacing Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. He has also advocated firing White House advisor Karl Rove and vocally supported Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., after Murtha called for a withdrawal from Iraq.

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This article is froth with spin, starting with Hillary's contributions, beating the joke to death, warning about the Internet and Kerry the "centrist" rebranding himself as a liberal! Give me a friggin break. Still, those numbers by Kerry are awesome! Despite all the media pundits' pronouncements, they sure are paying a lot of attention to Kerry!


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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:50 PM
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1. Ahem.
"centrist"???????????????

They just can't figure him out, can they?
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:52 PM
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2. Totally scared
"Indeed, Kerry, the centrist presidential contender" :wtf: I wish these so called journalists would quit this BS.

I would really like to know where they get Hillary gave away 21 million, where? She spent that amount on her campaign, is that considered giving it away ? :argh:
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:54 PM
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3. Yeah.
Florists for Hillary. :sarcasm:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:55 PM
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4. LOL! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:55 PM
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5. Apparently,
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 11:56 PM by ProSense
since the Repub was a slug! Oh, and it was nearly twice that amount!
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:03 AM
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7. And in what possible way does
this make any sense at all?

    Online political strategists, who live and die by the effectiveness of e-mail solicitation, have no trouble explaining away the apparent disconnect between Kerry's prolific ability to raise money online and his inability to garner broader public support. E-mail solicitation, they explain, is only as good as the product it is selling, and Kerry's success during 2006 came largely because he was working so selflessly for a Democratic takeover of Congress. "It wasn't on the power of John Kerry," explained one Democratic Internet strategist, who did not want to be identified while criticizing Kerry. "It was on the power of his e-mail list, and frankly, if he runs for president, I doubt that list will support him."


So, people will donate to other candidates through Kerry, but it apparently has no connection to any support for the man himself? Where do they get this garbage? It's not exactly like there was no other way to get money to those candidates.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:52 AM
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10. And gave less than a million to Reid or Boxer
but Kerry's large numbers have nothing to do with support for him at all. :crazy:

They're truly just bonkers.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 08:42 AM
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12. I agree that it makes no sense
If the list contained only email accounts that signed up in 2004 and who now have no interest in Kerry, it would not have generated the activists or the money that it did - 2 years out, they wouldn't even click on it to read it.

What I haven't seen is any comparison of "response rate" by list. Kerry's team has listed the number of people donating as well as the money total. Kerry has a huge list, but the donations by email alone that he raised were incredible. That this article - that minimizes Kerry's power in EVERY way possible doesn't say that Kerry's list's response rate was lower than that of other email lists, is likely that it is higher.

I know that what I liked in the emails was the very direct way that the Senator made the case for those he was asking money from. We all got a million solicitations from many people. That Kerry raised more using email, rather than the more expensive snail mail or telemarketing is important.

When transitioning to use it for himself, Kerry will have to make the case for himself. Weren't there a very interesting set of Faneuil Hall speeches - that provide the detailed backup on that. No one else is anywhere near as strong on all the issues. What is known is that the people who responded to Kerry's emails now have an over 2 year relationship of trusting him. There was no reason to donate through Kerry if they didn't.

The most interesting comment in the entire article is that Kerry's emails got the most volunteers. This WAS Kerry reaching people directly - and sounds like many of our personal stories. Getting people to commit time, effort and passion is NOT insignificant.

The comment on Iraq is unconscionable. Kerry has been the strongest voice since at least the beginning of 2005. Elsewhere in the media, they are in fact admitting that his 2004 suggestions were similar to current ISG recommendations - which kind of shatters the media line in 2004 that his ideas were similar to Bush's.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:02 AM
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6. Say what? Hillary gave 21 million? I want to see the proof of this.
Sorry, I had to stop reading and post after I saw that comment. Now they have to out and out lie- big time for Hill? Now, back to the article.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:22 AM
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8. What a bunch of written hooey. Where does one begin to refute the
misinformation?

I can't speak for everyone on Kerry's list, but I give to Kerry- period. If he uses it to benefit other candidates fine. If he uses it to run for President- even better.

IMO, Salon has gone Hillary and lost credibility. It must of had something to do with that meeting Bill had with blogger a couple of months ago. They can't keep on writing articles with MSM lies and spin and remain credible.

And,of course the net community is important, so are other donors and Kerry has both.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 01:34 AM
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9. If you cut the spin in this article, what is left:
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 01:36 AM by Mass
Kerry has a huge email list that allows him to reach a lot of people, but it is only a tool and its success will depend of the effectiveness of the candidate:

Duh, I could have said as much.

And, yes, you are right, these articles show that the pundits still consider Kerry as a contender, whatever they say. There are only 4 people who get these types of article on what are they + and -: Clinton, Obama, Gore, and Kerry. I am actually surprised how little spin Edwards and Bayh, who are supposed to be two of the big contenders, get.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:59 AM
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11. I saw Edwards on Hardball today
He's lost something. He talks about the sunny optimism, but it's just not beaming out of him like in 2004. They've been through hell, for sure. And maybe actually seeing so many people truly in poverty has changed him, I don't know. But something's different and I'm not entirely sure he's decided to run. If he does, I expect he might be a bit more serious than repeating sunny stump speeches like he did before, although I don't know if that will go over with his supporters. I can't quite figure where he'll fit, a more rational Dennis Kucinich maybe, but not really sure.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:10 PM
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13. Scherer is a TOTAL DUMBASS - anyone who claims Kerry is a centrist rebranding
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 12:45 PM by blm
himself as a liberal is showing themselves to be the Mayor of TooLazyToDoResearchville.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:14 PM
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14. LOL! Your right, to lazy to get it right. This shows how much he knows- nothing! n/t
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