LaRouche gets on my nerves (somewhat Kerry-related)

[europegirl4jfk]

OK, I know that Lyndon LaRouche is a joke but he seems to be able to convince people that he and his political cult are linked with the Democratic party and especially John Kerry. I read this Factnet message board about LaRouche from time to time because I know someone who fell for his cult, and I saw the following message today:

http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/4/358.html?1099441306

...Seizing the hatred of Bush and the Iraq war creates an opportunity for recruitment and a different spin this time. Now, Lyn proclaims that we are working with unnamed big Democrats as consultants to the party and we are now big players. When the Dems lose th elections Lyn can say that because they did not listen to him, they lost. Dems won big this year so if you send a few yutes to a district and the voters elect a Dem over a Rep incumbent, than you take the claim of being the deciding factor. In the 2006 elections Lyn declares that his yutes won the election, regardless of how the independent vote and other sectors changed. Where the yuites received their biggest coverage and media exposure in CT, Lieberman won over Lamont. So no matter what happens, you can issue a reason why such and such happened and make the yutes feel like they did something rather than just be the butt of jokes on campus blogs around the country.

The move underway now is to have Lyn proclaim that John Kerry is tight with him and that the LarouchePAC is how to do it. This way, the org can raise money for LPAC, spend it on it self and claim to be the deciding factor in everything without having members loke at 1% vote totals for Lyn...

And in California the LaRouche Youth Movement and the California Democratic Party seem to work together for real. California Democrats must be really desperate to team up with the LaRouche people.

http://www.fdrlegacy.org/meetings.htm
www.larouchepac.com/pages/otherartic_files/2006/060410_fdr_legacy.htm

On March 14, the Los Angeles County Democratic Party Central Committee voted to authorize the charter of the Franklin Roosevelt Legacy Club. The initiators of the Club—Quincy O'Neal and Cody Jones—are elected members of the Central Committee, and have been involved in leading the day-to-day organizing in California against the fascist policies of George Shultz's leading operatives, Vice President Dick Cheney and California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

O'Neal and Jones are also leaders of the LaRouche Youth Movement (LYM), the nationwide youth organization of American statesman and former candidate for the Democratic Party Presidential nomination, Lyndon LaRouche.

Well, maybe LaRouche is just a nuisance and no danger to JK and other Democrats but through his claim that the LaRouche movement is a legitimate part of the Democratic Party more young people will be drawn into his cult movement under false pretense.

[wisteria]

1. This is the first I heard about this. I always just thought laRouche

was a nut, but a repub leaning one. Now I am curious about what he may have to do with our party.

[karynnj]

3. Same here until recently

I saw the Larouche people when I went to the Patrick rally and when I went to see the "Dissent" speech. At the Patrick rally, my husband was amused that I argued with them - as aopposed to the saner "ignore tham and they will go away" approach. They tried to convince me that Senator Kerry led the filibuster against Alito - because they pushed him to do so.

As Europegirl says they they tried to argue that they were for the same things as Kerry. (likely because I listed Kerry as the politician I trusted.) I also saw them in a town in NJ where they claimed they were tight with Clinton and that Kerry would have won if he listened to them. I suspect they are trying to convince people that they are normal Democrats - when they are neither normal or Democrats.

[europegirl4jfk]

4. He was a right-wing nut 20 years ago

The thing with the LaRouche movement is that they aren't even a real political cult. They use politics to lure young people in their organization to exploit them. Since Bush came to power they had more and more young people, unhappy with the war and Bush in general, joining the LaRouche Youth Movement. These kids often don't realize that LaRouche is not a true Democrat and they are purely and simply abused, financially and morally. If you are interested, please read about this poor student from the UK who went to a LaRouche anti-war conference in Germany in 2003, and was so traumatized by what he experienced with the organization that he left in the middle of the night, ran into a car and was killed: http://www.justiceforjeremiah.com/. It's a sad, sad story.

[JI7]

2. i don't think it's that big a problem

he has done this many times before with other Democrats also.

but LaRouche is pretty much considered a joke by most people especially in the Democratic Party and isn't taken seriously outside of the people in his cult.

he is annoying though and his cult often disturb Dem events.

[europegirl4jfk]

5. You are certainly right

But I just don't understand how the Californian Democrats can get involved with this nut-job. They should know better. And it's sad for all these young people that abandon their studies and families and give their college funds to LaRouche.

[JI7]

6. i come across some of them from time

i wonder if it's more of the LaRouche people getting involved in Dem events as to try to influence it or regular Dems who become LaRouche supporters.

the LaRouche people i come across do appear to appeal to the regular anti Republican type Democrat. i don't think they are all that influential but i guess the Democrats can try to educate the newer younger Dems about what the LaRouche people are about.

[JI7]

7. a thread in GDP on something similar concerning the LaRouche people

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3015604

[europegirl4jfk]

8. Thanks for the link!

Interesting thread. I think it's more likely that the LaRouche people are trying to infiltrate the Democratic Party than the other way around. For example, I know for sure that this Cody Jones person is a long time LaRouche member in the Californian youth movement.