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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 11:20 PM
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Senator Kerry's comments on the Pope's visit to America.

"In a nation and a world facing such extraordinary and daunting challenges, the pope's visit promises hope, inspiration and great wisdom"

http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=HPIB,HPIB:2006-30,HPIB:en&oe=UTF-8&tab=wn&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=2&qsid=eNQrGFGuLzkJ">link
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 05:11 AM
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1. Nice Google feature!
I'll start using that.

In the meantime, here's that quote in context. Looks like Kerry is sticking with that group of pro-choice Democratic Catholic lawmakers who fully intend to take Communion at the Pope's Mass, despite all the Pope's stupid statements. I think this is rather gutsy of them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/16/AR2008041602951.html


WASHINGTON (AP) - Catholic members of Congress who publicly support the right to abortion will trek to Nationals Park Thursday for a Mass celebrated by a pope who has said such lawmakers should not receive Communion.

Leading these lawmakers, some of whom have repeatedly complained about remarks by Pope Benedict XVI and a few bishops on the subject, will be House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the government's highest-ranking Catholic and a supporter of abortion rights. Nowhere in her remarks or her actions this week has she referred to strains with the new pontiff.

. . . .

And yes, her spokesman said, she intends to receive Communion from one of the 300 priests and lay ministers who will offer it to the gathered flock of 45,000.

Benedict's stance on abortion and Communion has been painful for elected officials who inhabit the troubled zone where Catholicism and their political beliefs intersect.

Pelosi was one of 48 Catholic lawmakers—some who support and some who oppose abortion rights—who signed a letter in 2004 complaining about statements by "some members of the Catholic hierarchy."

"If Catholic legislators are scorned and held out for ridicule by Church leaders on the basis of a single issue, the Church will lose strong advocates on a wide range of issues that relate to the core of important Catholic social teaching," they wrote. "Moreover, criticism of us on a matter that is essentially one of personal morality will deter other Catholics from entering politics, and in the long run the Church will suffer."

None of the Catholic lawmakers interviewed Wednesday said they hesitated to attend Thursday's celebration of Mass. This event, they said, is about bigger themes and values, such as hope and compassion.

"Pope Benedict's historic visit is an important opportunity for Catholics and for all Americans to reflect on the ways we can contribute to the common good, address global issues of poverty, disease and despair," said Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., whose views in 2004 led several Midwestern bishops to say they would deny the Democratic presidential nominee Communion.

"In a nation and a world facing such extraordinary and daunting challenges, the pope's visit promises hope, inspiration and great wisdom," Kerry said in a statement.


Only a few of the more than 250 U.S. bishops have said they would withhold Communion from Catholic lawmakers who support abortion rights. Most American prelates say parishioners must search their own consciences to decide whether they should receive the sacrament.

During the 2004 U.S. presidential election, Benedict, who was at that time Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, said the sacrament could be withheld under some circumstances.

Last May, when a reporter pressed Benedict on whether he agreed that Catholic politicians who had recently legalized abortion in Mexico City should be considered excommunicated, his response was, "Yes."

Benedict's spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, later said the pope was not setting a new policy and did not intend to formally excommunicate anyone. But Lombardi added that politicians who vote in favor of abortion should refrain from receiving Holy Communion.

Not this time. . . .
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 01:12 PM
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2. Has this happened yet? Any reports?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-17-08 09:15 PM
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3. I found this article.
Several Catholic lawmakers who support abortion rights, including Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi received communion today at the Mass celebrated by Pope Benedict XVI, in apparent disregard for the pope’s views on the issue.






http://news.muckety.com/2008/04/17/abortion-rights-supporters-kerry-pelosi-take-communion-at-papal-mass/2232#jump">link
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:25 AM
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4. the wingnuts seem to think it's some horrible scandal
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:29 AM
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5. Anything to play up phony outrage. n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:52 AM
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6. A couple of pictures.
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 11:53 AM by wisteria


Ignore the snark underneath the pictures. I couldn't manage to get rid of it.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:06 PM
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7. thanks, wisteria
a reasonable comment from your link at #3 . . .
Sister Mary Ann Walsh, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Catholic Conference of Bishops, told Politico that the church had no plans to police communion.

“You presume that everyone there knows the rules of the church and follows them,” she said. “No one is policing that. People go to church and people go to Communion if they feel in their heart they are prepared to receive Communion.”


If the so-called "pro-lifers" are so interested in policing communicants, what about those who applaud capital punishment? or torture? or conduct pre-emptive war? or who ignore and exploit the poor? or destroy the environment for short-term greed? or who slander good men and courageous patriots like John Kerry? I am so completely sick of these people.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:45 PM
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8. Thanks for the pictures,
I noticed that he was right behind a very attractive woman :)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 05:40 PM
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9. she looks so beautiful there
and he is sooo tall.

btw, Giuliani was there today in NY also and he is pro choice but they wont mention them as much as they do Kerry.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:34 PM
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11. Of course not- hypocrites. n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:33 PM
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10. Yeah, I noticed that beautiful woman too.
And, as any gentleman would he allowed her to go first. Good thing too, if she was behind his "tallness" we wouldn't of even seen her.
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