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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:26 PM
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Does anybody has any internals for the Suffolk poll
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 04:33 PM by Mass
From Chanel 7, they say that only 38 % want Kerry to be reelected and 51 % not.

I hate Suffolk as their polls are very bad, but this is the type of news we could avoid.

This probably will not prevent him to be reelected because there is nobody against him, but it is a bad sign that he did not really create a connection with the state. Sorry, but nobody will tell me that these numbers have a positive side.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:38 PM
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1. I saw that article. I think Kerry does have work to do in the state.
He will win, but I would like it to be more than just a win by default. I think O'Reilly is good only in this respect. More campaigning in Mass. is good. And, damn, if there was only some way to get more positive press for things he has done. You know, no spin. Just -- hey, look what Kerry has done this week for the state. Oh, and less cabinet/VP talk. Sorry, I know I am largely in the minority on this, but that kind of talk helps no one.

Sorry, I don't know what the internals are.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:41 PM
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2. We do not disagree, beachmon.
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 04:46 PM by Mass
In the posts I posted earlier today, there was a quote that was interesting. It shows the real complaint of people from MA, by opposition to the complaint of political hacks of both sides. http://news.bostonherald.com/blogs/news/lone_republican/?p=238&srvc=home&position=recent (answer 10)

What surprises me is that the results have been the same for the last 4 years and that things have not been done. Something is just wrong.

I am not sure that O'R is a good thing because he does not seem to care about the issues linked to MA. All he says is that Kerry does not care about MA and then he repeats the PDA agenda (that I like, but do not trust O'R a minute when he says he believes in it.) without any reference to our state. I am concerned that a debate between the two will turn to something totally inane because the guy does not even seem to know anything about the state. This said, it is more than time that Kerry shows some interest in the people from the state (and fires those people who got him such a bad image!!!).
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:50 PM
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3. Oh, totally agreed on O'Reilly -- he is useless for the state of Mass.
BUT, if it gets Kerry more focused in state, completely separate from O'Reilly but in general, then that is a good thing.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 04:55 PM
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4. That is a thoughtful response
It would be great if what he did for that area was compiled. That said, why is it just Kerry who is responsible. This seems to be as much a state issue that the Governor is most responsible for. Did Senator Kennedy and their representative do more? It clearly is an issue that Kerry needs to work on.

But, there is a massive problem with the Boston Globe coverage. They have missed many many significant things he did. The one that stuns me the most is that with global warming being a big issue, why did the Bush administration's praise in Senate hearings get NO coverage. It seems wrong that the only way that people in MA could here them is if they suddenly all became CSPAN archives addicts - which be interesting, but extremely unlikely - or Kerry should use them in an ad with comments from environmental groups (and Gore at the 2004 convention).

Kerry may have problems with his constituent service, but he also has the problem of being smeared by not just the RW but in a lesser way the entire MSM - it had to have an effect. I do know that he does far more MA events than either of my Senators - Prosense will likely back me on this.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 05:14 PM
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5. Internals. As I suspected, Kerry gets a good score in the NE, and then a lousy score elsewhere in
Edited on Tue Jun-17-08 05:25 PM by Mass
the state. This denies the Globe issue as the Globe is not that much read outside of the Boston area. But people outside of the Boston area feel unhappy and forgotten (and it is not only a Kerry phenomena).

http://www.suffolk.edu/files/SUPRC/final_ma_statewide_tables_june10_2008.pdf

I think Kennedy gets a pass because of whom he is, and Deval Patrick is less well liked than Kerry, in general. But saying it is unfair will not help. The media around Springfield and Worcester are more positive than in the Boston area and he does not fare well there. That is what is amazing for me.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:16 AM
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6. Private polls by Suffolk show Kerry way ahead of O'Reilly everywhere in the state.
http://www.gloucestertimes.com/punews/local_story_170235616.html?keyword=topstory

But Suffolk University pollster David Paleologos, who conducted the poll, said private surveys he's conducted for other clients, and which weren't released, show O'Reilly substantially behind the junior senator, no closer than 20 points anywhere in the state. In one typical district, O'Reilly is down 57 percent to 26 percent.
...


Good to know, even if it would be better if Kerry's image was better.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 11:31 AM
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7. Thanks - that is reassuring
I wonder if Kerry campaigning and having debates will be a lift. I know that being on the same stage is said to elevate the challenger - but in this case you have a troll with no record of doing good for anyone vs a very classy, serious legislator who can point to major work on every single major issue . Here - what should emerge is people being reminded who the Senator is and seeing him could make it obvious that many smears are complete lies.
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