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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:40 PM
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Kerry wa a "NO" on motion to procede on FISA
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 05:44 PM by karynnj
One of just a few - the ones I caught were Durbin, Wyden and Lautenberg - I assume that Dodd and Boxer were too but didn't hear their votes. I missed a lot - it ended up 80 yes, 15 no.

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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:11 PM
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1. Also
off the top of my head Schumer, of course Feingold and Leahy.

Just out of curiosity: why isn't Clinton voting? She was on Capitol Hill, wan't she?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:14 PM
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2. Pleasantly surprised by Schumer. No surprise for Feingold, Leahy, and Kerry.
Not sure why Clinton is not voting, but, on a vote for cloture, only YES votes matters .
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:53 PM
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6. I looked at Thomas and she
seems only to have voted once yesterday on the confirmation of a judge. This was weird as there was such hoopla of her being greeted by cheers. (the video shows she was greeted by interns - mostly young women college students outside the building. To say this was a photo op is an understatement.) But I think she missed both the Fisa bill and the bill before it.

(Can you imagine what would be said on DU or in Mass, had Kerry blown off the lame duck session. (A session where he wrote one of my favorite Kerry statements and it is no longer anywhere - he spoke of how the budget process was like painting a room with the lights off - you don't know what you will see when the light is turned on but you know it will be a mess - and this bill is a mess. (that was when they were given the 900 page budget with less than 24 hrs to read it.) I have a feeling that he would have have of DU calling for him to quit.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:25 PM
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8. Leibovich wrote an article about that:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/24/welcome-back-clinton/

As much as it might be a source of solace to her, Mrs. Clinton is hardly the first losing presidential candidate to return to the Senate, nor will she be the last. Eleven of her current colleagues have made similar returns, including John Kerry, three-and-a-half years ago, John McCain, 8 years ago and Ted Kennedy, 28 years ago. (The list does not include colleagues who explored campaigns but never ran, such as Evan Bayh and Russell Feingold last year; nor does it include Barack Obama, who is still a senator, but who has been seen as much around here in recent months as on a beach.)

When asked earlier in the day if he had any advice for his newest ex-candidate colleague, Mr. Kerry replied — “Ah, compartmentalize,” and chuckled to himself. But in the senatorial tradition, all was civil and downright warm at times, at least outwardly. Mr. Kerry, a vocal and early supporter of Mr. Obama, went on to say how “proud” he was of Mrs. Clinton, and that “she set an extraordinary example for any candidate at any level.”


It's snarky and mildly mean spirited (I question our nation's culture that this guy is employed by the Paper of Record. He is just a mean and nasty human being, but I digress), but I think it wasn't THAT bad, compared to, well, this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/05/us/politics/05kerry.html?_r=1&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/L/Leibovich,%20Mark&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 06:49 AM
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9. The bottom link
why did you make me read that painful piece of garbage again? Nasty human being - absolutely. I am obviously biased, but there seems to be an enjoyment at being mean spirited that traspires throughout the article which is trule nauseating.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:31 PM
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3. JK's statement posted at
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:53 PM
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4. THANK you, Senator Kerry. n/t
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:01 PM
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5. The NOs
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:01 PM
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7. Both my Senators were good.
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 08:02 PM by karynnj
This might not have been an easy vote for Lautenberg, who is up for re-election. NJ was the home of the headquarters of AT&T until 2005 when SWB (Texas - :puke: ) bought AT&T and merged. There are still many telco people here.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:09 AM
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10. these people need to be thanked. n/t
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-26-08 10:40 AM
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11. the yesses and abstainers
Edited on Thu Jun-26-08 10:40 AM by MBS
Not Voting - 5 Kennedy (and perhaps Byrd) have excuses because of health. Interesting that the rest are candidates or ex-candidates.
Tsk, tsk. Yes, OK, they're not voting FOR, but it's really the time and place to walk the walk here, and to speak OUT.
Obama, our Dem candidate for change, and who taught constitutional law, of all people. Disappointing.
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Kennedy (D-MA)
McCain (R-AZ)
Obama (D-IL)


voting YEA ---80 (Here are the Dems who voted yea- Reps are hopeless , but Dems? Infuriating.
This should not be a touchy, "radical" or even partisan issue. As Dodd said so eloquently, this is BASIC to the founding principles of our country.What has gone wrong with our country?
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
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Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Webb (D-VA)
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