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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 10:21 PM
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A thing I liked about Kerry a lot was
that he talked about having Americans in public service as a noble calling, I liked that a lot because public service to me is a good calling and it was very Kennedysque, sorry I know we don't like to compare him to Jack Kennedy.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 10:37 PM
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1. hey why not
they have the same intials :)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:13 PM
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2. I have the same intials as they do, dont get any ideas :D
I am not JFK though, I am JHK nor am I from Massachuetts but hey I am a Catholic Liberal! :D. Yeah I really did like that aspect of his campaign, public service, I sincerely hoped that Kerry could become what Kennedy was for his generation for mine, Kerry became that to me but I am not sure if that was the case for anyone else, though my friends did like Kerry and he wasnt simply ABB for htem.
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vinessa4freedom Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:38 PM
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3. JohnKleeb for President
I agree with you about Kennedy. Except (maybe cause I wasn't there) John Kerry's got something Kennedy didn't have. I can't put my finger on it-something in his face, the way he connects to people. The compassion, maybe.

If you decide to run, what will we do? We can't divide the Kerry group-we need to stick together. Maybe you could be Hilary's running mate in 2012.:)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 11:55 PM
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4. oh gosh I am too young in 2012
:D but thank you. Yeah Kerry does have something that Kennedy didn't have, I can't find it either. Kerry really is something else though, he never was a simple ABB candidiate for me, I supported John Kerry not just anti Bush in November, perhaps that's why I am not gonna fry Kerry like some people.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 12:00 AM
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5. I don't know what Jack Kennedy's upbringing was
I would assume it was rich and privileged.

Perhaps Kerry connects more with people because his beginnings were a bit more modest. People seem to miss that somehow. His face may have been pressed up against the glass, privilege-wise, what with rich relatives and all. But his dad was a low level civil servant. They were comfortable, but not uber-rich.

Some would laugh when he said he worked as a teen. But he did. That might be why he has more of a common touch. Funny though, but it doesn't always come across on the television. You have to see him in person so see it. The only times I saw it on the tv was when I saw him with a group of veterans. That was first time I warmed up to him, when I saw that and how warm he was with them. I could suddenly see the man.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:47 AM
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6. rich and privileged
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 01:56 AM
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7. And kids
Any man who knows to get down on the floor with kids, and reads and interacts with them the way he does; that said it all for me. I rarely see kids take to men the way they took to John Kerry. Even Teresa said it made her jealous. He is an amazing human being, I just don't understand why the media had to rip him apart the way they did.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:11 AM
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8. Yeah I disputed some crap that Kerry had no support by the youth
before a candidiate who I won't name here for fear of starting shit dropped out. Most people my age that I know really did like Kerry, I did a lot of talking during primary season last year with people my age and people who could vote, this past year's seniors, and they really seemed to like Kerry. I saw a video and this was before Kerry really got going last winter but it showed him with college students and stuff, and he really was great, he was himself. I think Kerry is well liked by young people because he's been there, he knows and can communicate our struggles. I tell you once again, young people really do like John Kerry, he never was simply ABB for me, I wanted him to be my first vote really bad.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:31 AM
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9. I know you did
I sort of considered it my first real vote, though I'm 41. I never paid that much attention before this election. But I really liked John Kerry. I know we wouldn't be in hell in Iraq if he were in there. And to think about the people who were in desperate need that the Republicans don't acknowledge unless it's to deride them for not trying hard enough and wanting a hand out. All that makes me wanna cry.

I didn't expect to get this emotionally attached.

I agree about Kerry and kids. There was footage of him with a kid who must have been about 2 or 3 -- he just popped his 6'4" frame right down to that kid's level. And we've all seen the pictures where he looks like he actually knows how to hold a baby so that the baby is comfortable. Not to mention the picture where he's reading a book to some kids, and one of them has her head resting on his leg. So cute. I think that's in the picture thread.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:37 AM
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10. first real vote, I must say thats neat
I did talking around in philosophy class with the seniors who were eligible to vote this past election. I am a senior this year and many of us liked John Kerry, and some came to appreciate him through my advocating for him in government class. He really is good with kids and he really can relate with them well.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 05:39 AM
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11. The Bush* campaign tried to portray Kerry as the privileged one,
while they are just plain folks, and they somehow managed to pull this off, while this is just blatantly untrue. Bush* has used his family connections to slide through life, getting into schools and out of serving in Vietnam, and he even abused that favor. Kerry sold encyclopedias door-to-door, summers, to pay for his education, and served his country honorably. I thought that President Clinton's speech, at the convention, summed up Kerry's willingness to serve brilliantly.:-)

And I also agree that he does possess a certain warmth and connects with people. I've seen it. What I've seen of the Bush* supporters is that they wildly cheer and applaud at empty, meaningless talking points. There is no comparison between these two men.:shrug:
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vinessa4freedom Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 07:57 AM
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12. Amen
no comparison at all.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 10:33 AM
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13. Thanks, I totally agree with you
After posting on this thread, I fell asleep on the couch and had a nightmare in which Kerry was leading this country when we were living in wartime conditions. People were living in tents and burned out buildings and just trying to get to anywhere that was safe. There were helicopters overhead and rolls of barbed wire and explosives all around (the missing 377 tons, perhaps?). I'm not much good at interpreting dreams, but maybe this is what I fear under four more years of Bush*. People have tried to be reassuring, telling me that he can never run again, but I'm not reassured. If he can manage to do the amount of damage (9/11, the war, the deficit, the environment, I could go on) that he's done in such a short time, what more is he capable of, given four more years?! Perhaps my dream is my fear and my answer.
:scared:

But, to bring it back to John Kerry, in my dream I had every confidence that he could fix things, make things right. I saw him as a great leader, and I'm just so horribly sorry, that in real life, he's not being given the chance.;(

BTW, nice to see you here, LOL!:hi:
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vinessa4freedom Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:29 PM
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14. you too!
It's nice to know we have mutual interests in John Kerry and vegetarianism.:hi:

I was reading posts last night on the political forum about doing fliers. I asked for some suggestions, but had to go to bed. This morning the list had grown, and surprise- there were the beginnings of Kerry bashings. The same people posting last night were now taking out their frustrations on JK. I pointed this out, and have gotten 3 responses so far, which I'm not answering until my blood pressure cools down. The conversation had to do with flayers about the election fraud, but somehow it got back to them calling out John Kerry. Whose side are they on??? The man is INTELLIGENT for crying out loud! Don't they realize that maybe, just maybe he knows what he's doing?

Sorry to spill on you guys but I feel like this is the only place I can say I LOVE JOHN KERRY and not get harassed for it.:mad:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 02:50 PM
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15. there is nothing wrong with loving John Kerry
I always in the primaries though I supported Kucinich, I felt it was right to stand up for Kerry who I felt got such a bad deal by most of DU in the primaries, as I said in my other thread, lets not judge by a grain of votes that we disagree with but by a bunch of votes that we do. This guy, Kerry is a guy with so many accomplishments. He would have made a great president, and you know what, if he's in the candidiate field in '08, and the others I am not keen on, I'll support him.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 04:40 PM
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16. I totally understand. the Kerry-bashing sends me over the edge, too
It started early on, even during the primaries, with people who supported other candidates saying that they wouldn't vote for the nominee, if their candidate wasn't the choice. My candidate was Dennis Kucinich. I guess that I am more realistic than most, since Dennis was even largely ignored by the media. But the most important priority, IMO, was to replace Bush*, and I listened to what Kerry had to say, and came to admire him greatly. I thought that he had a real vision and a plan to move this country forward. The addition of John Edwards to the ticket seemed inspired. They seemed to compliment each other perfectly and their intelligent message and focus on the issues was such a huge contrast with the empty Bush* campaign talking points. I believed that we had a winning team.:thumbsup:

Those who indulge in Kerry-bashing, IMO, don't belong on DU. Skinner said that once we had a nominee, criticism of him had to cease, whoever it was. This was very early on and one poster asked if this counted, if it was Lieberman, LOL, and was told that it did. This was the time for us to stick together. We all had a common goal, regime change at home. Although I believe Greg Palast, who is saying that this was another stolen election, I think that one of our problems may have been the inability to come together. The Bush* people managed it and look at the sorry pair of candidates who they rallied behind!:grr:

I'm so glad that you found this forum! Come here any time that you feel overwhelmed by this! You're going to find kindred spirits, including me and my good friend, and fellow Kucinich, then Kerry, supporter, who also replied to your post.:hug:
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 07:32 PM
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17. Yes, yes, yes!
I think I'm gonna start ignoring Kerry threads because someone is always gonna come in and start bashing him. It's irrational! They're just as irrational as the people who support Bush. Sorry, I just get EXTREMELY pissed off.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 07:34 PM
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18. so do i
Edited on Sat Nov-27-04 07:43 PM by Faye
i've reported 3 or 4 posters since i've been here :o (alerted them to the admins, lol)
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vinessa4freedom Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 08:00 PM
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19. All of you guys rock!
:yourock:
Thank you for making me feel like there are good people out there. I do all the justifying in the world for these ding-dongs and then they can't shut up and make me sorry I do that.

Funny how originally most of us supported the vegan candidate. I wanted DK also until I got to know JK.

This John Kerry group is the bright spot in my day. Thank you for being here to make me feel better. :grouphug:
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 08:11 PM
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20. Thank you
I love this group too. I'm sick of the negativity.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 09:22 PM
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21. Yeah you guys are great
Making me feel safe to leave the lounge :).
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-04-04 09:14 AM
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31. Thanks! I agree and I sure don't blame you!
How anybody can bash Kerry when we have an illiterate chimp in office totally baffles me!!!:crazy:
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:43 AM
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22. He honestly wanted American's to work together
I was impressed how he was talking about cimmunity service, and public service being vital to Americans.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:00 AM
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23. this sounds cheesy i'm sure
but one of my favorite things that he always says - just the way he says it, is when he starts off a sentence with: "my fellow Americans"......

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:05 AM
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25. Remember in St. Louis when he would address people directly by name
I thought that was way cool.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:01 AM
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24. and I liked that a lot
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 06:26 AM
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26. The thing I liked I about Kerry was whenever he talked about " America "
I felt included ... Whenever Bush talks about America , I feel that I am not a part of that " America " .
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vinessa4freedom Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 07:58 AM
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27. Exactly
It seems John Kerry talks about America as a parent, child and best friend. W refers to America like a set for his war action figures. You got me really thinking about that one. I hadn't thought of it before.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:55 PM
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28. a fine point
I like how Edwards talks about America too.
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NamVetsWeeLass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 02:29 PM
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29. One thing about him that I loved is that he had
Initiatives that dealt with Nurses. Being a Nurse, Naturally I was impressed with that. Also his tireless efforts on Veteran's Rights.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-01-04 03:31 PM
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30. I love the feeling I get in my heart when he speaks
I regret that I never took the opportunity to travel to one of his rallies. I never had the privilege of seeing him in person. I am sure that the feeling would be have been that much more powerful.

When I listened to John Kerry, I just knew that the words came from his heart and mind. He thought long and hard about the things he stood for. I did not feel like I was listening to a politician, but more like a wise father that wanted to guide us on the right path.



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