Help Please! The DKos Thread is Not True!

[kerrygoddess]

I spoke with someone who is a liason for the Friends of JK PAC. They are making phone calls for the PAC to raise money tp push JK's Kid's First. It's not a scam.

I'm waiting for more info or a statement. Can everyone please help by not perpetuating this any further. I'll post more as soon as I know. In the meantime, perpetuating this is not helping JK!

Due to FEC regulations, the PAC can not coordinate with JK's Senate office. Whoever people who "say" they have called JK's Senate office have spoken with, mostly have no clue what the PAC is doing.

Just reading the post on DKos it's evident the poster has issues with JK.

[whometense]

1. I am still having

problems with the fact that they are asking for bank info. Personally, I need that point clarified.

[kerrygoddess]

2. Perhaps they are taking checks by phone.

I will ask when I hear back.

[TayTay]

3. Yeah, I beginning to smell a rat

Let's just wait and see what KG digs up. I have no problem with a legitimate request for funding to get this legislation passed.

However, we all know that Jk has blog-enemies who will present anything in the worst light possible. Let's wait to hear back from KG to make up our minds. It just too easy to have a 'clust-f*ck' from all the people who hate JK and take nothing from him at face value. (If they hate the list, get off it.)

[whometense]

4. I agree - but I'm looking

at it from the opposite point of view. I just want to protect Kerry's good name, not bash him.

I still think that if people are insisting that the only way you can donate is by giving them your bank info they are at the very least making a huge mistake.

[JI7]

5. i agree, if that is what is happening then contact someone from the PAC

and they should change the way they raise funds.

also, the petition didn't have any place to give your phone number so that is suspicious also.

unless the list is from something other than the petition.

although that person is a Kerry hater and i can easily see exaggerations as was in that post.

[kerrygoddess]

7. I am assuming

they are using phone numbers from Kerry's list of volunteers. It's legal, he owns the list. I gave my phone number during the campaign.

Remember it was not so long ago that campaigns and PAC used the phone and mail for rasing money.

Like I said I am waiting for more info from a PAC liason.

[JI7]

8. ok, so the calls aren't from signing the petition as that person said it

was. this makes it seem to people that they will get called from signing it when it's not true.

[kerrygoddess]

10. I'm only assuming this for now...

But it seems that way. Some people jump at the chance to bash JK. We all know that.

[LittleClarkie]

28. Considering the OP over at Kos is laughing at

the suggestion that the Friends of Kerry go FOK themselves, I do question his claim that he "supported" Kerry.

Why do ABB's make that claim. They get all self-righteous about how they "supported" Kerry even though they didn't like him. Well, I have news. People are smarter than you think they are, and they can tell whether or not you really support someone, or are really just against someone else. Superficial support is not what we're talking about here.

A couple of days ago, I got quite peeved at someone at DailyKos who said that they ignored the Kerry emails but would give to the Dean ones. My response was that I wouldn't ignore either, and that I support both.

Can we PLEASE get over the primary wars. Geez!

[kerrygoddess]

9. Did they ask you for your bank info?

Did you not say they did not contact you?

I personally don't give much creedence to the Kerry bashers on DKos and most who piled on that thread are known Kerry bashers.

[whometense]

11. I haven't gotten a phone call

so far for anything like this. That said, I have caller ID, and any calls that come in labeled "Unknown Name Unknown Number" go unanswered. So they might have called and I just didn't pick up the phone.

I absolutely loathe being phoned and asked for money. I am very generous and give online all the time, but I hate being put on the spot by begging phone calls and refuse to give money - to anyone - that way. That's just a personal thing with me. It's surprising - to me, anyway - how many of these callers get actively hostile when I tell them (politely) that I don't promise or give money over the phone.

[kerrygoddess]

12. Okay...

Since they did not call you, you are going on the hearsay of others and bolstering their claims.

I'm asking everyone to help by dispelling this. Please don't give them creedence. No asked me for my bank or credit info when I said I could not donate.

[sandnsea]

15. I got a DNC call last week

I thought it was the DNC. I could have sworn the guy said he was calling from the Democrats, I thought they said they were raising money to fight the filibuster. I get calls all the time. I've given money to the Kerry campaign and the MT State Dems. And Al Sharpton. I think that's all. It doesn't bother me to get a call and I've never had anybody get hostile over it. I have phone banked and had people get hostile with me though. That's life I guess.

We'll just have to wait and see what this is all about.

[karynnj]

13. I agree

I have never given credit card info to anyone who calls me - explaining that they are likely who they say they are, but I can't prove that. I've never been asked for bank info -and I wouldn't do that either. What's suspicious is that Kerry has asked via email before - you go to a known secure account, why would they change this? Or when asked if there's another way to contribute say "no".

[kerrygoddess]

14. Did they call you?

Because they called me and did not ask me for any info when I said I could not donate.

Furthermore phone solitictions for donations are very common with many organizations.

I'll say this again, if they did not call you, please don't perpetuate what very well could be distortions from Kerry bashers.

I'm asking everyone to back me up and quelch this damn rumor because I have it on good authority it is not true.

[karynnj]

18. I did not get a call - I was just responding that I think no one should

give when called - I may be paranoid, but I just think there are better ways.

[sandnsea]

17. There's nothing at the site

I just looked. I can't find a place to donate online. Maybe it's because of the recent security breaches. Or maybe I just missed it. I'm really surprised at the people who won't donate over the telephone. They've been collecting donations like this for a long time. Of course, it's always good to be careful and not give your info if the call sounds suspicious. I think the internet is more secure, but alot of people don't. That's why shopping channels make so much money.

[Pirate Smile]

27. It sounds like the bank info request may be questionable now but I hate

to see supporters get turned off because of how they are solicited, not all supporters are as willing to give JK a break.

Such as this post "Started out quite plusible asking to support Kerry's plan to provide healthcare for kids. I said sure they could add my name as someone who supports the bill. Then they asked for a donation, still seemed normal- of course they're going to *ask* for some sort of donation- but I declined to give any money at this time. The woman on the phone (and it was a terrible connection I could hardly understand a word) started with the hard sell- any donation would be great, most folks are 'pledging' $25, can't those kids count on you... it got to the point where I just hung up on her. I commented to my wife how disappointed I was with Kerry at that point. I glad to hear he had nothing to do with it."

Kerry isn't calling. They just hired someone to do it, of course, but hopefully they can just tell the people calling to cool it with the hard sell or use volunteers (the best option but maybe not feasible).

[kerrygoddess]

6. Thanks TayTay

Unfortunately scams happens, but this is definately not one.

[LittleClarkie]

16. I originally thought ratfuckers either rival or enemy, but blogger enemies

or rival supporters would fit into that as well.

How sick would that be though. JK does good things with the email list. So let's take it away from him.

How short-sighted can people be. From optimism when he got a couple things passed to this now. They cry that nothing is being done, then when something is done, but not by their guy, they STILL have a whiney fit.

I don't care. I'm still proud of Kerry and Clark working together yesterday. The men themselves are working together. Why can't their supporters do the same.

This is all assuming of course, a dirty trick.

It could still be a misunderstanding.

Somebody had a good point at Kos though. How can you say "Kerry is giving out my info" when both are Kerry organizations. So he's giving info to himself? Oh, the horror!

[Pirate Smile]

23. I didn't post again in the thread on in GDP because I just want it to

disappear (too late to edit original post) and when there is a clear message, Kerrygoddess can post a new thread clearing everything up.

[JI7]

19. perhaps the thread in GD Politics should be locked then ?

judging from some others the calls were reasonable. one person said he asked for info and got it in mail.

i'm assuming the person on Kos let his anti Kerry bias influence what he wrote . and made it seem much worse then it can be. the comments on being Kerry's atm and 2008 was kind of a give away.

he could have easily said no and just hung up as many including many kerry supporters did. and the same applies to the many other organizations who do this.

[kerrygoddess]

20. If someone can get it locked that might be good!

Yesm the ATM remark was a dead give away.

[JI7]

22. yes, Pirate Smile can ask them to

based on inaccurate info.

[Pirate Smile]

24. I'll go do that.

[JI7]

25. thanks

i don't think many people really saw it so i wouldn't worry about confusion too much as long as the mods lock it soon.

[Pirate Smile]

26. I just asked them to lock and hopefully delete the threads.

[k j]

21. Oh good grief...

more drama on Kos re: Kerry? Same song, 14,000th verse. That's pretty much why I don't even surf over there anymore.

I get phone calls from several different grassroots groups and always ask them to spend the money on a stamp and I'll donate via snailmail, or else when I'm tapped out, I tell them I'm tapped out.