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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 01:55 PM
Original message
Has everybody seen the new e-mail Kerry sent out?
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 02:21 PM by Pirate Smile
It discusses pursuing election reform.

Should we let the cat out of the bag about him observing the Palestinian election on Saturday?

edit to add the letter so you don't have to go to the link.

Dear XXXX

No American citizen should wake up the morning after the election and worry their vote wasn't counted. No citizen should be denied at the polls if they are eligible to vote. And, as the greatest, wealthiest nation on earth, our citizens should never be forced to vote on old, unaccountable and non transparent voting machines from companies controlled by partisan activists.

Tomorrow, members of Congress will meet to certify the results of the 2004 presidential election. I will not be taking part in a formal protest of the Ohio Electors.

Despite widespread reports of irregularities, questionable practices by some election officials and instances of lawful voters being denied the right to vote, our legal teams on the ground have found no evidence that would change the outcome of the election.

But, that does not mean we should abandon our commitment to addressing those problems that happened in Ohio. We must act today to make sure they never happen again.

I urge you to join me in using this occasion to highlight our demand that Congress commit itself this year to reforming the electoral system. A Presidential election is a national federal election but we have different standards in different states for casting and counting votes. We need a national federal standard to solve the problems that occurred in the 2004 election. I will propose legislation to help achieve this.

Florida 2000 was a wake up call. But the Republicans who control Congress ignored it. Will they now ignore what happened in 2004?

There are nearly 3,000,000 of you receiving this email. We accomplished so much together during the campaign. Now let's use our power to make sure that at least one good thing comes from the voting rights problems of the 2004 election. If we want to force real action on election reform, we've got to demand that congressional leaders hold full hearings. Make sure they hear from you and help hold them accountable.

Speaker Dennis Hastert: 1-202-225-0600
Leader Bill Frist: 1-202-224-3135

And please report that you've made your call right here:
http://www.johnkerry.com/signup/electoral_reform.php

I want every vote counted because Americans have to know that the votes they stood in line for, fought for, and strived so hard to cast in an election, are counted. We must make sure there are no questions or doubts in future elections. It's critical to our democracy that we investigate and act to prevent voting irregularities and voter intimidation across the country. We can't stand still as Congressional leaders seek to sweep well-founded voter concerns under the rug.

Please join with me in calling Speaker Hastert and Leader Frist and telling them that you want action on election reform now.

A recent report from Representative John Conyers (D-Michigan) reveals very troubling questions that have not yet been answered by Ohio election officials. I commend the Democratic National Committee for its announcement this week that the DNC will be investing resources and reaching out to non-partisan academics in a long term study of Ohio voting irregularities. I am only sorry that we haven't seen the same from Ohio Secretary of State Blackwell and GOP officials.

Congress must play a positive, proactive role on this issue. That's why I will soon introduce legislation to reform our election system, ensuring transparency and accountability in our voting system and that all Americans have an opportunity to vote and have their vote counted.

Please remember to let us know that you made your call when you're done. We're hoping to ensure House and Senate leaders' offices hear our demand for action on election reform in meaningful way. Please take a moment to let us know you have made your call here: http://www.johnkerry.com/signup/electoral_reform.php

Thank you,

John Kerry

P.S. Thanks to all those who participated in our USO "phone home" campaign last week. The totals are coming in from the USO, and they are thrilled with your generosity and support for our brave men and women in uniform. We will send you totals as we get them.


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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:28 PM
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1. No, I didn't get it.
Yet, anyway.

There are some foaming-at-the-mouth threads over in the Elections forum. I came over here to escape the spittle.

:argh:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. I didn't get it yet either.
But here is a nice thread someone started after the nasty one snowballed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x238676
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:42 PM
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5. Thanks!!
Just this minute got the email. :-)

News from John. Sigh. All he has to do is ask, and I'm ON IT!!!
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:38 PM
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3. I havn't received it yet either but...
I have been trying to call Hastert and Frist office and the lines are busy so apparenetly many have recieved this already and are jamming the phone lines. Has anyone else tried to call yet? I will report when I get my phone calls done.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:05 PM
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48. I haven't been able to get through yet n/t
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:38 PM
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4. I havaen't gotten it yet either
And I thought I was special, cuz I got the Christmas Card.:(

Now the schedule thingee from yesterday makes sense. Whew!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. I'm so jealous
You got a Christmas card. Damn.

I didn't get the email yet either. Poo.

Heh, did you see the antics of the LLL last night? You missed out. :P
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. LMAO
I see your back. Did you have sweet dreams last night LOL!? BTW have you made the phone call John is asking us to make yet? If not get in gear you can be naughty later LOL.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Nah, my daughter hogged the machine
I can be online from 6-8 pm est. Then I have to go back to my parental cave. Sigh! More flexible next week.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #4
8. I won't get it for days probably. I am always toward the end
of the send outs. I don't care. I'm glad to know it's coming.
I can call now and later.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:15 PM
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10. I can imagine GD right now
I guess I won't be going in there anytime soon.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Yeah, pretty much
"COME ON JOHN, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!"

"WHY ISN'T HE HERE STANDING UP AGAINST VOTER FRAUD!!!"

WTF. Sometimes I wonder if this is where Limbaugh et al get their fodder about left wingnuts, by coming over here and listening to the ill-informed ranting of some of these wackjobs. I mean, Limbaugh is total filth, but some of these morans on DU aren't doing a whole lot to help our "image," either.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:25 PM
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12. Oh, I know
No common sense whatsoever. They piss me off to no end. And I can see people typing in all caps w/o even checking it out. I'll save myself the headache.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. Actually, it started bad but I think there are a lot more people
fighting against the Kerry bashers. That is what I noticed after seeing a couple different threads.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. I really hope common sense prevails nt
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #15
18. it will one of these days
How is your fight with Rachel Ray coming? :)
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. I hate that moron!
Her ass is so mine!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. I wanted to promote a fight when I was a freshman
:shrug: I even skipped meeting someone in the library for it :) but the damn thing got broken up.
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:27 PM
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13. Damn Has Anyone Been Able To Get Through The Phone Lines Yet?
Either people are jamming them or the assholes have took the phones off the hook. Hell far I think it is time to jam their damn e-mail boxes next on this issue. Who agree's?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:30 PM
Response to Reply #13
33. I just sent one email each
Does that qualify. Can I go to johnkerry.com and log that I did that much do you think?

I can't get through either.

Here's what I wrote:

Dear Senator Frist/ Hassert
I hope you will consider a full hearing for investigation of voter irregularities in this years election. It behooves both parties to make sure that every vote is counted, that all who are eligible to vote are allowed to, that proper resources are alloted, and that partisan politics do not get in the way.

If the broken vote in this election is not fixed, the next candidate to suffer from electile disfunction could very well be a Republican just as easily as a Democrat. This is a non-partisan issue, therefore.

Please do your patriotic duty and preserve our proud tradition of free and fair elections in this election.

God bless, and thank you for your time.

Erica _________
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:32 PM
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16. I just got mine
:loveya: :loveya::loveya:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 03:53 PM
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17. Got it
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Sh#$. Still waiting!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. Awwww, Pirate!
Even I got mine by now. :P

BTW, is your name from "Tiny Dancer"?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. Yeah, you are sooo smart!
:-)
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Don't Feel Bad I Don't Have Mine Either
Did anyone ever get through the phone lines? I still havn't. I did E-mail Frist still got shit for brains Hastert yet to go on the E-mail.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #23
25. So did you marry a music man?
;)
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #25
26. No, but sometimes there are Jesus freaks out in the street.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:12 AM
Response to Reply #26
51. Hey, well, the boulevard is not that bad
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #25
41. I Finally Got Mine!
I'm so damn happy! I was beginning to feel left out LOL. Damn he still has the emails going out. WOO HOO You Go Johnny! We Got Your Back.
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:57 PM
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27. WOW!!!!
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 05:00 PM by angrydemocrat
MAN OH MAN ARE THOSE PEOPLE PISSED LMAO!!!!! I finally got through to shit for brains Hastert office and let me tell you what if them people aren't pissed we are not all Kerry supporters WOW. This bitch answered the phone and I asked to speak to Hastert and she said "he is busy right now if you don't want to leave a message you can or you will just have to call back another day" and she is a smartass to. So I told her that I was calling to speak to him about election reform and.....(she cut me off and starts talking) then she says "Oh that, well I will tell him, and don't tell me your for it right" I said yes mam I am defiantly for it. Then she said "well I will tell him." I said thank.....then she hung up before I finished. LMAO I think it is so funny apparently they are getting flooded.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #27
28. LMAO
:yourock: You should go and post this in the tin foil hat forum. This is so awesome. I hope that we bug the sh*t out of them so they have to hire more staff.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:04 PM
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29. Just got it
Woohoo, I'm special.

I think they're going out in waves. If you're on the mailing list, you should get it.

I tried earlier, but the line was busy. I wonder if it would be okay if I emailed instead. Otherwise, I won't be able to do it until tomorrow. I don't want to call from work.
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #29
31. I'm Doing Both
And I encourage everyone to do the same. PLEASE!! Bug the hell out of these people LOL. Jam the e-mail the way we are jamming the phone lines PLEASE!! Damn this is to much fun LOL.:evilgrin:
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:12 PM
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30. OK
Well I finally got through the line at shit for brains Frist office and when you do it say it is forwarding you to the voice mail of the senate majority leader then a womans voice comes on and says "is Full good-bye" so I guess I will have to deal with that shit for brains office again in the morning. And believe me I will if I have to set a clock to make sure I wake up in time to be one of the first to call. LOL So their asses have been flooded as well. LMAO and I think it's so damn funny I love to piss people like them off and get under their skin it makes you feel good if you know what I mean. :evilgrin:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #30
40. Isn't Frist your Senator
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 07:25 PM by TayTay
No offense, AD, I'm not saying you voted for him or anything. Put the tire iron down slowy and we can talk. Really, I'm not holding you responsible for that shit-for-brains bastard. I know your heart.

Okay. What I meant was, Frist's office should accord you some special recognition. You are a constituent. The office should be nice to you. If they are not, write them and complain and threaten to tell every Tennessee voter you meet that Frist is an asshole.

Friends still?
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #40
43. LOL Why Of Course!
And your right I didn't vote for the shit for brains batard. I'm going to have to try his office in the morning couldn't talk to anyone today but I will. And I will be nice I promise as hard as it is for me to be nice to shit for brain assholes like them.:evilgrin: I will report back what they say as I did with the other shit for brains and his group of iliterate dumbasses. Did you read it? LMAO it was so damn funny. I have already sent E-mails to both of them as well I posted what I wrote.
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kcpod Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:23 PM
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32. I thought it was a great letter...
then I read the thread in the 2004 Election Results forum and so many people were pissed off. I'm as disappointed as anyone that the election was stolen but it doesn't help to read all this JK bashing when his letter was obviously telling us that he supports us in getting election reform. I guess some people will never give him a break.

I'm so grateful for this forum. I've learned to ignore most of the posts in GD.

By the way, I'm new to posting but I've been lurking on DU for months. Hello to everyone!
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:42 PM
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34. Got mine.
I'm fine with the letter, too. :D It clearly states he knows there's a problem, is upset about it, and plans to work towards the future. Jeesh what do people want him to do, jump up and down and scream? Now that would be mature and responsible wouldn't it? That's something the vicious chimp or one of his malicious troop members would do. Kerry has far too much class, dignity, and smarts.
I haven't called or emailed yet, but I certainly will. If Kerry wants me to do something, it will be done. He is the only President I have any intention of acknowledging.
Damn, it's so irritating. To have such a fine man, capable of truly making a positive difference in this mess or a world, and not being able to have him in the office he earned. It pisses me off sooooo much!
I'm so sick of people in the election forum saying Kerry lost. They just don't get it. He didn't do anything wrong, IMO, but obviously everything right...he won. You don't win by screwing up.
Maybe, I'll go over to the election forum and tell a naysayer to bite me. :evilgrin: I'm sick of all the negative waves.
Hrrmph...enough of my ranting.
I'm off to see what the on again off agains have to say.

Kerry on....and WTF are they hiding???? :think:
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. Ooh, let's all tell them to bite us!
The new thread: BITE ME. I BELIEVE.

LOL
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Or... if you don't believe, bite me!
Or perhaps just a simple Bite Me with O8) after it in response to a negatator's comments.
I do think a good thread would be a "bite me" thread! lol!!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 05:46 PM
Response to Original message
35. My email is down. Have to restart my computer to get it.
Edited on Wed Jan-05-05 05:46 PM by bunny planet
People on the rest of the board are going nuts. More Kerry bashing then I thought possible. Even Randi Rhodes is bashing him today (and I love her so I am disappointed in her attitude) She is really trashing him. So I have come here to be safe for awhile. I can't listen to them anymore today.


Meanwhile, good news, it looks like my Senator Lautenberg in Joisey will sign on with Conyers tomorrow. God I hope it's true.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #35
47. What as Randi saying about him
Geez, every time he does anything he gets trashed.

As if we thought he was going to be the one in the first place. He's in the Middle East. And as I kept pointing out, he never said he was contesting the election. He said he was making sure every vote counts.

He's not a radical. When will these leftwingnuts figure that out. He's not doing something weird and useless. He's doing what he always does, fight within the system.

Considering the flying monkeys around, I hope that Frist and Hasert still got dumped on with calls and emails today.

Meanwhile, it hurts my heart to see Kerry trashed this way. What can we do? I hope in the future people can see that he tried to do the right thing, even if it was not what they wanted.

At least he came out and clarified his position before tomorrow, and gave several of us something to do. What would it have killed the ABBers to just make the damn call.

!@#$%^&*!!!!!!!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. she just went off on him today. Even mentioned Skull and Bones.
My heart was breaking. I love Randi, but I also love John Kerry so it was a difficult rant to listen to for me. She said he must really not want to be President...... Why wasn't he in the Senate protesting with the CBC etc.

She was awesome though when talking about what we should write and say to the Senators. Positively on fire.

I've heard Randi say she is bi-polar or something. She certainly seemed that way today. She even talked over John Conyers for most of her interview with him. I really wanted to hear what he had to say. He did get to answer the question she asked at the end of the interview though. She said 'Do we have a senator Rep. Conyers?' and he said "yes".
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:05 PM
Response to Original message
38. I got mine. And I'm pleased so far, but I still hope
some Senator will stand tomorrow,
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:08 PM
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39. This Is The Email I Sent To Both ......
Shit for brains Frist and Hastert


I am writing you as a concerned citizen and voter. We need real action on election reform and we need it now not later. We need election reform that will ensure transparency and accountability in our voting system and that all Americans have the opportunity to vote and their vote be counted. It is critcal to our democracy we act now to prevent voting irregularities and voter intimidation across the country. It is time stop sweeping this matter under the rug and get it fixed.

A presidential election is a national federal election but as we know we have different standards in different states for casting and counting votes. This is ridiculous as well as it is wrong. This needs to be and should be fixed immediately.

It is a disgrace and shameful that Americans would have to worry after any election that their vote wasn't counted. And no citizen should ever be denied at the polls if they are eligable to vote. And no voter should have to vote on old unaccountable and non transparent voting machine controlled by partisan activists. This is ridiculous, wrong, and a slap to the face to any voter in this country. It needs to be fixed immediately not a year or two from now. This can be and should be done before the 2006 elections. There are no excuses for it not getting done. Because this should be a bipartisan effort by all and no excuses for any member of the House or Senate not to support any efforts made and get passed into law election reform that is greatly needed in this country, it will surely show the American citizens who is wroking and fighting in there best interest, and who they need to be mopping the floor with the next time they walk in a voting booth. So I hope sir that you are as you claim working and fighting for the best interests of the citizens of this country and will support and encourage others to support election reform.

Thank You

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Have I told you lately that I love you?
You, my dear friend, rock! I adore your passion, your sense of outrage and your rock-solid committment to what you believe! I tend to have the dispassionate argument and the cold talking points memo. You help me want to put a bit more of me, my essense and my soul into something.

For this, I doff my frilly hat. You go, girlfriend!

:yourock:
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. Why Thank You
I have always felt you rocked right along with the rest of the faithful Kerrycrats! Did you make your phone calls or email them yet?

I have to say I have had fun doing mine. :evilgrin:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:50 PM
Response to Reply #44
46. I tried.
Didn't get through. Will keep trying until I get through.

Gotta go early tonight. Kids breathing down my neck. If anything lust-i-ful happens tonight, make up something suggestive and tell people I said it.

Sorry!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #44
50. OK - it is 11:00 pm EST - still haven't gotten it. I told you it will be
days.

Maybe tomorrow.....

:boring:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #50
53. Hey, it's tomorrow. Nope - still not here.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 12:24 AM
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52. do you have their email addys handy ?
I couldn't get through on the phone.
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NamVetsWeeLass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 07:43 PM
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45. yep, I got mine....
Not sure of what to think. Staying out of GD tonight, for sure.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 11:47 AM
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54. couldn't get through by phone but
I was able to email both of them, plus one of my senators, Russ Feingold.

Still didn't get an email, so I'm glad I got the news here! Thanks.
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