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Tue Jul-26-05 09:14 PM
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I made this chart about the leadership and etc of congress |
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Sorry if it looks bad, if you have any questions, just ask me. Name Position DLC, Blue Dog or neither Harry Reid Senate Minority Leader NOT Dick Durbin Senate Minority Whip NOT Debbie Stabenow Democratic Conference Secretary DLC Byron Dorgan Democratic Policy Chair DLC Harry Reid Democratic Conference Chairman NOT Charles Schumer DSCC Chair NOT Tom Harkin Agriculture Committee RMM Senate NOT Robert Byrd Appropirations Committee RMM Senate NOT Carl Levin Armed Forces Committee RMM Senate NOT Paul Sarbines Banking Committee RMM Senate NOT Kent Conrad Budget Committee RMM Senate DLC Daniel Inoyve Commerce Committtee RMM Senate NOT Jeff Bingaman Energy Committtee RMM Senate NOT Jim Jeffords Environment Committee RMM Senate NOT Max Baucus Finance Committee RMM Senate DLC Joe Biden Foreign Relations Committee RMM Senate NOT Ted Kennedy Health. Labor, Education Committee RMM Senate NOT Joe Lieberman Homeland Security Committee RMM Senate DLC Pat Leahy Judicary Committee RMM Senate NOT Chris Dodd Rules Committee RMM Senate NOT John Kerry Small Business Committee RMM Senate DLC Daniel Akaka Veterans Affairs Committee RMM Senate NOT Nancy Pelosi Minority Leader House NOT Steny Hoyer Minority Whip House NOT Bob Menendez Democratic Caucus Chairman NOT Collin Peterson Agriculte Committee RMM House Blue Dog but not DLC David Obey Appropirations Committee RMM House NOT Ike Skelton Armed Forces Committee RMM House NOT John Spratt Budget Committee RMM House NOT George Miller Education and the Workforce Committee RMM House NOT John Dingell Energy and Commerce Committee RMM House NOT Barney Frank Financial Service Committee RMM House NOT Henry Waxman Government Reform Committee RMM House NOT Bennie Thompson Homeland Security Committee RMM House NOT Juanita Millender-McDonald House Administration Committee RMM House DLC Tom Lantos International Relations Committee RMM House NOT John Conyers Judicary Committee RMM House NOT Nick Rahall Resources Committee RMM House NOT Louise Slaughter Rules Committee RMM House NOT Bart Gordon Science Committee RMM House NOT Nydia Velasquez Small Business Committee RMM House NOT Alan Mollohan Standards and Official Conduct Committee RMM House NOT James Oberstar Transportation and Infrastructure Committee RMM House NOT Lane Evans Veterans Affairs Committee RMM House NOT Charley Rangel Ways and Means Committee RMM House NOT Jack Reed Joint Economic Committee RMM NOT Juanita Millender-McDonald Joint Committee On Printing RMM DLC Charley Rangel Joint Committee On Taxation RMM NOT Jane Harman Select Committee on Inteligence RMM BOTH Bill Clinton Former Democratic President DLC I am sorry it doesnt look good but this research was easy to do.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:50 PM
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:51 PM
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I dont go there no more, i dont even post much period anymore since I feel isolated for reasons I wont get in to at the moment.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:54 PM
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4. Sorry, but I DO understand. They were rough on me too. |
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:55 PM
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6. Not really rough on me but you know |
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I just dont fit in, I guess.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:51 PM
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2. Which goes to show there is little correlation between liberal and non DLC |
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:55 PM
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It didnt take me all that long. Yeah I think there are more very liberal democrats RMMing those committees than DLCers. Its interesting to know also that some of the better democrats are high ups, like Durbin is of course the Minority Whip and Dorgan is the policy chair. Pelosi is one of our most liberal reps, whether people believe it or not, and the choice in 2002 was her or Martin Frost, and while Frost wasnt a bad guy, I would prefer Pelosi.
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Tue Jul-26-05 09:59 PM
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:01 PM
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8. Whats funny is that you may hear her refered to as |
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"Bush accomdating", "DLC", "Caves in" but Pelosi is one of the most liberal people in congress, and besides while there are many great liberal congresspeople out there, that alone doesnt qualify them to be leader which is sad to say.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:03 PM
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9. She is actually a good liberal leader. |
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:08 PM
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10. She is, thast what I am getting at |
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I am also getting at people who suggest people like Conyers, McKinney, or whoever as our party leader in Congress while maybe good intentioned dont understand politics. The person themselves not their viewpoints determines whether they would make a good party leader or not. Which could explain why some of our past speakers like Tom Foley, Jim Wright, Tip O'Neil(I do believe he was a liberal though), and Sam Rayburn werent members of the partys liberal wing per say but leaders. Thats not to say of course there cant be really liberals in congress, that alone I am saying doesnt qualify them. Pelosi had been one of Gephardt's whips before she got the job.
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Tue Jul-26-05 10:11 PM
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11. Yes. I love Conyers, McKinney, Kuicinich, etc. but they are not |
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the only Real Democrats...
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Wed Jul-27-05 01:19 AM
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12. Labor, Liberals, or a new way |
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I was reading an article earlier about labor in the 60's and how they had started abandoning the party over Vietnam. Toss in some of the seedier aspects of labor that was more common back then. Then there has always been the socialist/communist subgroup, plus the hippie war protester added in the 60's.
Is it any wonder some people thought the Democratic Party needed a new direction?
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Wed Jul-27-05 11:25 AM
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We lose counties that fourty years ago, we won in big numbers, its a shame, a classic example of this is Malcomb (sp?) County I believe in the Detroit area, its your classic ethnic working class suburb, in 1960, it strongly supported Jack Kennedy but its only been downhill since, now to be fair, the party's leftward swing on social issues was a part of why but its still a shame. Politics certainly is odd, I believe we've been doing better now in some parts of the country than FDR did. I really think the best way to beat republicans is with economic issues.
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