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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:42 AM
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Mittens is at it again criticizing Massachusetts.
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 07:45 AM by Mass
Badmouthing on Massachusetts has been Romney's favorite sport since last year.

With this one, I would guess he closes the question of whether he will runs for governor or not. Not only does he succeed to attack the democrats, but also Republicans as not being conservative enough.

Vitter was talking this morning on TV on how to bring somebody that had both corporate and governmental experience. Seems to describe Romney perfectly.

http://www.politicalwire.com/

"Being a conservative Republican in Massachusetts is a bit like being a cattle rancher at a vegetarian convention."

-- Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (R), quoted in a Washington Post article about how he's trying to appeal to conservatives for a potential 2008 presidential campaign.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:11 AM
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1. Honestly, what a jerk
I can't wait until the good and true citizens of Massachusetts elect a Governor who actually likes them and doesn't go out of state and curse them under his breath.

Can you imagine what this guy would do as Prez. He would badmouth the whole country. He is a dangerous moran and a creep.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:21 AM
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2. I hate the whole nasty mind-set in this country.
Mind you, I'm only talking about the sort of blather one hears from G.W. Bush, Schwarzenegger, and their ilk.

One of the things I've always despised, no matter who practices it, is the tendency to say things are better in ______. You know what I'm talking about. Bush always depicts Texas as this haven of reform and harmony. :eyes: Yeah, RIGHT. And he goes about knocking Massachusetts, DC, and anywhere people don't rain smooches upon his buttocks.

Did it ever occur to these clowns that the rest of the country isn't sitting around waiting for their supposed wisdom?

Bush and Schwarzenegger also love to depict themselves as outsiders and reformers. :eyes: Ooh, they're such manly rebels, such warrior heroes! :eyes: Yeah, right.

As for Romney, I coined a nickname for him on the bus this morning and promptly repented of using such profanity. It was Mitt the S***. Not very nice of me, and I'll try to wash it out of my brain. But I just wanted to share. :evilgrin:
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:26 AM
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3. I like it.
"Mittens" is way too tame at this point - we need something "bolder". Mind if I use it?

A Boston http://chimesatmidnight.blogspot.com/2005/09/boston-herald-is-up-in-arms.html">blogger this morning:

...Massachusetts has no friends in high places these days; we will need to rely on ourselves.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:57 AM
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4. Well, it wasn't very nice of me...
...but you do have free speech, at least until those clowns in the administration find a loophole. :evilgrin:
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:54 AM
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5. How was this guy ever elected in Massachusetts?
I mean he just doesn't seem like a middle-of-the-road kind of guy who could easily draw voters from the opposition party as some Governors have done (like Easley in NC, Warner in VA and others).

Forgive me if this has been explained many times before. (I'm sure it has been). I know Mass voters aren't zombies, and don't automatically vote in unison, but Mitt?

How I would love to see a Presidential match-up between Mitt, the Massachusetts Mormon vs. Kerry the Massachusetts Catholic. I know I have moments when I (perhaps irrationally) defend Southerners, but I gotta say that Presidential match-up would make more than a few Southern Fundie heads explode and I for one, would find it quite amusing. :evilgrin:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:04 PM
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6. It;s a time honored tradition for conservatives to knock MA
Yesterday, I was copying a tape we got years ago at Colonial Williamsburg that dealt with a fictitious representative's path to supporting the resolution for VA to join the revolution. It explained the issues well and showed how there were people on both sides and how they were gradually won over or in some cases left to go to England. (We were copying it to give to my youngest daughter's teacher.)

It was weird hearing them talk of the contentious people of MA, those hot heads and the trouble they were causing! Some things remain the same.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 12:20 PM
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7. Aye, 'tis true Mistress Karynnj. The Bay Colony was always
beset with the woes of unjust government and at great pains to seek a redress of grievances. Truly, we did suffer much from the ill-timed policies of the much-deplored ministers of our last King. We are wont to place before our sister states the plainness of our cause and seek comity and support from those with whom we share consanguinity and a common love of liberty. We appeal, thus, to the common sense of our sister states and ask of them that they uphold us in our misery and in the justness of our cause. We not angry without cause, but seek, instead, to make that cause just to all our fellow inhabitants of this continent. We pray that the common sense of the people prevail and that the suffering inhabitants of this Bay Colony do but show the way in an effort that such suffering may be averted by our sovereign sister states. And though we are assured of the rightness of our cause, we do implore most humbly for support, lest the wavering resolve of some lead to the downfall of all. So say we all in long-suffering and justly indignant Massachusetts. (And may God truly show our sister states how agrieved we are and how heaven itself doth weep at our various predicaments even as the angels validate our cause, our righteousness and our resolve.)

Eh, enough of that. Sounds like a bad Hawthorne dream. Yeesh.

Hey, Salon had an article about my hometown: http://www.salon.com/books/review/2005/09/24/francis/print.html
Wow! People just never get tired of those old Witchcraft times. It just never gets old, eh?
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:46 PM
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9. You're from Salem?
Some years back I made a Halloween week visit to Salem. I hadn't been to Boston in years and had never seen Salem but of course read about the witch trials from elementary school onward.

Of course, the people they executed were no more witches than was Bishop Sheen, but it was still interesting to soak up the atmosphere and get a feel for what's happened and happening in Salem. I even glimpsed Laurie Cabot, who was doing a book signing.

Next stop: Lily Dale, New York, huh?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 09:59 PM
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10. I am from the next town over, twas called Salem Village
in our intolerant, medieval phase. This was the actual town where the accused lived. (And home of a swell insane asylum too!)

The Salem Village Memorial to the victims is located right across the street from the local Catholic cemetary, where I have a lot of dead relatives. The parish chruch, where the outbreak of hysteria and neighbor-blaming occured is right up the street. (The actual congregation is still packing 'em in, though things have changed considerably since 1692. The congregation was pleased to call a gay, woman minister to see to the church's needs recently. So, yeah, we have moved on.)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:30 PM
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11. Who would think to build a mental hospital
right in the town where you had the witch hysteria?
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:19 PM
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8. WaPo
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/25/AR2005092501146.html

Bada-bing. For months, this blue-state governor has been pitching himself to conservatives in a way that campaign experts say is highly unusual -- perhaps even historic. Instead of talking about his home state with the usual lip-quivering pride, Romney uses it like a vaudeville comic would use his mother-in-law: as a laugh line.

<snip>

The problem: Some people here in Massachusetts are not laughing. Political observers say Romney may have put himself in trouble for next year, when the "vegetarian convention" has another gubernatorial election scheduled.

"For an incumbent governor to make fun of the state seemed gratuitous," said Jeffrey M. Berry, a professor of political science at Tufts University in Medford, Mass. "I think people sort of felt he was flipping the bird to voters here."

<snip>

But the jokes have not helped. Frank van Overbeeke, a chef at Matt Murphy's Pub in Brookline, said he had a question for the governor after hearing what he'd said about Massachusetts.

"Well," van Overbeeke said, "what are you doing here?"

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