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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 06:37 PM
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Kerry being sued by the Swifties
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 06:39 PM by rox63
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:37 PM
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1. This is disgusting
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 07:41 PM by karynnj
I scanned the complaint and it's weird. It's like they want to "try" Kerry for his anti-war activities from 30 years ago. Didn't they dare Kerry to sue them - it seems they are likely trying only to destroy Kerry. (Although they give him a platform to explain his principled fight against the war.)

I think I want to get Kerry's acceptance speech and compute (the number of words on Vietnam)/ (total number of words. I can't believe he can claim Kerry RAN FOR PRESIDENT based on his 4 months as a swiftboat captain.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:52 PM
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2. And this from the party who harped on and on about trial lawyers
I guess it's only okay to sue if it's against war protesters. I think I had read some time back that George Butler was sued by one of the investors in his film because he thought it was too much of a "campaign film" and wouldn't make any money. The political film business is sure messy.

Regarding the SBL, I'm just done with them. They're liars, they turned on one of their own, and made up stuff just because they disagreed with Kerry on Vietnam AFTER he came home. I just can't imagine investing so much time and money and energy into hate and lies. I think instead of condemning them and hating them, we should pity them. They lost so much in that war, just like Kerry, and then they shit on the memory. Kerry is at peace as much as he can be about Vietnam. Obviously, they're not. What a pathetic way to live your life. When they first came out, I was very upset by it, because I didn't know the facts, and in the back of my mind, the propaganda was seeping in, and I thought -- "is there something to this?". But after I extensively read up on Kerry's service and researched all of the details of his medals and their charges, I knew that what they said were lies. And the power went out of their sails (no swift boat pun intended). They only have power over us if we give it to them. As Eleanor Roosevelt once said "no one can put you down without your permission". And we have Kerry's back, and the SBL aren't going to get us down. Never again. We know the truth.

Hopefully, Kerry can make this annoying suit disappear quickly.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:33 PM
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13. Somebody else is suing them, I think this is in retaliation
They're calling the person with the lawsuit against them a surrogate of Kerry's because the guy is VVAW. Apparently "the surrogate" didn't cotton to being called a liar re: what he saw in Vietnam.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:59 PM
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3. it's about raising funds which have been drying up since the election
most of those who gave money to them were not ones who had issues with Kerry and whatever he did in and after his military service but rather those who viewed the group as helping them win the election for Bush.

since the election is over there is no more reason for them to give money to them. at least not unless Kerry were to win the nomination again.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:10 PM
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4. This suit is laughable
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 09:04 PM by fedupinBushcountry
I read it, do you believe they are blaming Kerry for conspiracy. :rofl:

The funniest thing about it is that it is filled with lies, the same lies that were in that horrible sleezy movie. Heck they better sue millions of us who worked hard to stop that garbage.

IMO Kerry should sue them and the media who spread the lies.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:27 PM
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5. You're right about the cynical surrogates, but a lot of those
Swift Boat veterans REALLY hate Kerry, and blame him for everything. There was an NPR report from a reporter whose father was part of SBVT. After the election they went to Disneyworld, and it's the saddest broadcast I've ever listened to about the election. I mean, they were talking about the war and fighting in the boats on the Mekong Delta, and their stories TOTALLY jived with Kerry's (this was just, in general). They weren't so different from Kerry's crew who DID support him. But you know what, I bet you they never really got to know him, and they decided he was some snotty overprivileged Yalie (don't forget that he ate with his crew, not in the officer's lounge), and after his Senate testimony (which they mistakenly felt was saying THEY committed war crimes which he wasn't saying), they only felt hate for him. And, of course, memories are tricky things, so if one guy suggests something, the others might be like, "oh, yeah, maybe it happened that way", and so on and so on. It just broke my heart that they turned on him, when they were ALL brothers in arms together. Yes, there were a lot of cynics involved, but there were also real veterans who lied about their fellow sailor just so that they could "win", since they didn't get to win the real war. One day, they'll wake up and see that revenge is no victory at all. And worse, is how so many of those veterans opened their wallets to Karl Rove, and who will be spit on when it comes to VA funding.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:53 PM
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6. The fact that the suit is filled with lies and accusations
from the 70s makes me think that the purpose is not a legitimate suit but mostly an attack on Kerry. If this were real, the charge against Kerry should be backed up by what he did last year, not charges of what people who Kerry knew (or who he didn't know, but were also anti-war) did.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 09:19 PM
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7. They are suing Kerry or the makers of the film?
On what legal basis are they suing Kerry? This smells like a fund-raising tactic. The Texas Money Guys who funded the SBVT have moved on and the O'Neill bastards got used to this particular gracy train. (Didn't I read that O'Neill got a payoof for his work last year in terms of a nice cushy job at a RW law firm? I'm sure the Koch Brothers took care of him real well. Until they decided he had served his slimy purpose and dumped him.)

BTW, did you know the owners of this store funded SBVT heavily: http://www.hoovers.com/michaels-stores/--ID__12152--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml

I have a list of corporate donors to this, like the Wal-MArt Foundation and what stores and businesses they operate. Anyone want an update of what places to never, ever shop at again?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 09:31 PM
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8. Give me a list of every single business that supported "SBVT"
And I will GUARANTEE that not another penny of mine will go there.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 09:42 PM
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9. I would like the list too
I have not shopped at Walmart for over 2 years, and now I will never step foot in Michael's again.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:31 PM
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11. me too
It's been about that long for me since I gave up Walmart. And as for fabrics and crafts, JoAnn Fabrics is the best! That site lists it as a competitor to Michael's. :)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:04 PM
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21. more michaels
ANOTHER BAD BATCH OF BUSH MONEY
US Fed News 06-06-2005


WASHINGTON, June 6 -- The Democratic National Committee issued the following statement:

DNC Communications Director Karen Finney released the following statement:

"The ongoing investigation into the Wyly brothers' tax evasion scheme is just the latest example of the rampant corruption that has become a trademark of Republican leadership in this country. The Wyly brothers join the ranks of Jack Abramoff, Ralph Reed, and Thomas Noe as the latest Bush Pioneers to be investigated for Federal crimes. This pattern of behavior may represent the values of the Republican Party, but it doesnt represent the values of the American people."

TAXES? WE DON'T NEED TO PAY NO STINKING TAXES: THE WYLY BROTHERS' OFFSHORE EVASION SCHEMES

Top Bush patrons Charles and Sam Wyly are under investigation for tax evasion by federal and state agencies. The Wyly brothers join the illustrious ranks of Jack Abramoff, Ralph Reed and Thomas Noe to mark the 4th and 5th Bush donors raising more than $100,000 to come under federal investigations. Recently the Washington Post reported on what it called the "DeLay effect", the phenomenon of Republicans losing support due to the repeated ethics problems of their top leaders, and the worry it is causing party strategists. Rick Davis, a Republican strategist and former John McCain presidential campaign manager said, "the ethics issue is putting the party 'into a bit of troublesome water.'" With the repeated implication of Bush donors and Republican leaders in corruption investigations, Republicans have reason to worry.

Offshore Tax Evasion: Another Bit of Troublesome Water

Wyly Brothers Involved in a State and Federal Tax Investigation. According to news reports Sam and Charles Wyly, better known as the "Wyly Brothers", are under investigation for tax evasion. In early 2005 Michaels Stores Inc. revealed that U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and the New York County District Attorney were investigating the stock transactions of Charles and Sam Wyly, the company's President and Vice-President. The billionaire Bush patrons are accused of setting up offshore trusts on the Isle of Man, a noted tax shelter in the Irish Sea, in an attempt to evade paying taxes on stock options.

Wyly Brothers Set Up Trusts in Family's Name for Purpose of Tax Evasion. In the 1990's the Wyly brothers, while being advised by Bank of America on tax issues, set up trusts in the names of some of their family members. The trusts, which were set up on the Isle of Man (a noted tax shelter), were supposedly set up to benefit members of the Wyly family, but are now under investigation by federal and state officials as possible tax evasion schemes.

IRS Accused Wyly of Laundering Money Through Trusts to Avoid Taxes. While writing about the Wyly's scandal the Dallas Morning News attempted to explain the Wyly's complicated tax evasion scheme. "First a public company grants stock options to a senior executive. The executive then transfers the options to a trusts or partnership controlled by the executive's family. The parties structure the transfer as a 'sale' and the trust then 'pays' the executive for the options with a long-term or deferred note — say due in 30 years. Shortly after the options are transferred, the trust exercises the stock options and sells the stock in the open market. The executive then takes the position that tax is not owed until the date of the deferred payment — in this case 30 years — although the executive has access to the partnership assets."

Wyly Brothers: Big Bush Donors Over the Years

Wyly Brothers — Top Bush Patrons. According to a 1999 by the Center for Public Integrity the Wyly Brothers were the 9th largest patron of Bush's political career. During the 2000 election Charles Wyly was a fundraising Pioneer, an elite group of fundraisers who raised at least $100,000 for Bush's election. The Wyly brothers both gave $5,000 to Bush's recount committee in 2000 and both gave the maximum amount, $2,000, to Bush's reelection campaign in 2004.

Wyly Brothers Donated to Notorious Shadow Organizations, In Attempts to Influence Elections. During the 2000 election the Wyly brothers used $2.5 million dollars of their money to establish Republicans for Clean Air. The group ran brutal attack ads against Arizona Senator John McCain in the 2000 Republican primary. During the 2004 election the Wyly brothers donated $10,000 to the "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth," which ran ads attacking Democratic Presidential Candidate John Kerry's service in Vietnam.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:16 PM
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29. I never heard about Michaels. Thanx for posting.
That's it for me.
I don't really like that store that much anyway.
We have Craftsmart in Phx. Much better, but Michaels is alot closer.

You know, this is what is so awesome about the internet. I would have kept on shopping there.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:05 PM
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10. They are suing Kerry and Podesta (PA Kerry campaign head)
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 10:19 PM by karynnj
Scanning the garbage:
He is accusing Kerry of defaming him by letting people in his campaign say the film was untrue and saying it was funded by the RW(when Kerry knew these charges were true) and trying to keep people from seeing it. They even say their was a civil conspiracy to damage Sherwood's reputation and that Kerry and all damaged their business with Sinclair.

(The first thing he does is restate all the charges in the film and blames Kerry for the action of every anti-war person. Even citing one person who proportedly wanted Dewey Canyon II to end with the killing of Congressmen.)

The top says they are requesting a jury trial (I think in eastern PA). This seems to be a pretty nasty attempt to force Kerry to reject the charges made against him as to the 70s.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:38 PM
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12. Could you post the list?
I've avoided WalMart since I read how poorly they treat their employees. I actually wish I shopped at Michaels, so I could boycott it.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:53 AM
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14. Reply one
Then I can trace all the people associated with these people and their groups and businesses.

Conservatives back Swift boat critics
UPI News Perspectives 08-05-2004
By UPI Correspondent THOM J. ROSE

A group of veterans attacking John Kerry's military performance is ostensibly politically neutral, but its backers reveal strong conservative ties.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, a nominally non-partisan "527" advocacy group, released a television advertisement Thursday contesting John Kerry's version of his service in Vietnam.

"We do not have any connection with Republicans, Democrats or independents," retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, the group's chairman, told United Press International.

But the $158,750 in donations that Swift Boat Veterans for Truth reported in its last IRS filing show a strong bias among its donors.

Of that total, $100,000 came from Texas developer Bob Perry. A profile published in the Dallas Morning News in November indicated that Perry has donated more than $5.2 million to Republican candidates running for office in Texas.

Perry has also given generously to national conservative causes, according to IRS filings collected by the Center for Public Integrity.

In 2002 he gave $250,000 to the Majority Leader's Fund of Tom DeLay, R-Texas, $170,000 to Americans for a Republican Majority and $50,000 to the conservative People for Enterprise, Trade and Economic Growth.

The next $50,000 of the $158,750 donated to Swift Boat Veterans for Truth came from John O'Neill and Harlan Crow, who gave $25,000 each.

O'Neill has been an opponent of John Kerry's since at least 1971, when the two debated the state of the Vietnam War on ABC's "The Dick Cavett Show." O'Neill represented the position of the Nixon administration in that debate.

Harlan Crow is a trustee of the George Bush Foundation and has made significant contributions to Bush campaigns, including the maximum allowed $2,000 to Bush-Cheney '04.

The remaining $8,750 of the group's funding comes from eight donors, who gave between $250 and $2,000 each.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth claims to have spent $500,000 on airtime for its television advertisement entitled "Any questions?" That indicates the group has received significant additional funding since it was last required to declare its donations June 30.

The group's 60-second television ad began running Thursday in West Virginia, Ohio and Wisconsin. They are now seeking additional contributions to increase the advertisement's reach.

"We're hoping not only to extend this (airtime) buy but to extend it to other states," Mike Russell, a spokesman for the group, told UPI.

As a 527 group, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is permitted to accept unlimited "soft money" donations.

Such groups, which surfaced in the wake of campaign-finance reform as a means to bring soft money back into political campaigning, have been dominated by Democratic efforts up to this point. Organizations like MoveOn.org and The Media Fund have raised massive amounts of money to advocate for liberal causes aligned with John Kerry and to campaign against there-election of President George Bush.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is required to make its contributions and expenditures public but can accept any amount of money from donors.

In addition to paying for its television ad, the group has allegedly paid a private investigator to dig up negative information about Kerry's time in Vietnam.

The Dallas Morning News has reported that some veterans have accused the investigator of twisting their comments.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth's most recent IRS filing shows the group paid private investigator Thomas Rupprath $3,179 from April 30 to June 30.

The group's largest expenditure during that time was the total of $27,855 it paid to Spaeth Communications. Spaeth Communications, a Dallas public-relations firm run by Bush contributor Merrie Spaeth, was hired by the Bush campaign in 2000 to discredit Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. Spaeth occasionally contributes commentaries that are distributed by UPI.

he next largest expenditure, $10,000, went to The McIntosh Company, a firm specializing in fundraising operations.

(Please send comments to nationaldesk@upi.com.)

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:00 AM
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15. Not in my state you don't
This is one of my favorite post-election stories. Notice the dateline is Kerry's birthday.

TURNPIKE AUTHORITY DROPS PUBLICIST FIRM HAD WORKED FOR ANTI-KERRY GROUP
Boston Globe, THIRD, Sec. Metro/Region, p B1 12-11-2004
By Globe Staff Frank Phillips

The Massachusetts Turnpike Authority, facing the wrath of state Democratic leaders, yesterday canceled the contract of a Washington, D.C., public relations firm that during the presidential campaign worked for Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, the group that attacked John F. Kerry's Vietnam war record.

A spokesman for the authority last night said the agency had decided that it no longer needed the services of Creative Response Concepts and its senior vice president Mike Russell, after just three weeks on the job. Russell handled the firm's work for the swift boat veterans, whose multimillion-dollar ad blitz in battleground states was a key element in undercutting Kerry's candidacy.

In a statement that reflects the deep bitterness about the swift boat group's tactics, a Kerry spokesman blasted the decision to hire Russell and his firm, calling it "just the latest breathtakingly stupid decision by the Republicans in charge of the Big Dig."

"Do they have so little respect for Massachusetts taxpayers that they believe the answer to years of waste, fraud, and abuse is to lavish more taxpayer money on a discredited partisan hack to spin the Big Dig?" said David Wade, Kerry's press aide, after the news circulated that the firm had lost the contract. "Will the taxpayers get a refund? Add this to the list of serious questions Matt Amorello must answer before the only reasonable verdict is that, like Mike Russell, he doesn't have a shred of credibility left."

Last night, Russell responded sharply.

"I'm sorry the Kerry campaign is coming unglued over this, but the bottom line is the election is over," he said. He noted that his firm was hired to do a specific job, and said, "There was no political motivation in the hiring of CRC, nor was there any political motivation in our efforts to get the word out about this terrific project."

The Turnpike Authority had hired Creative Response Concepts, a Virginia-based firm, on Nov. 19 to handle national media inquiries that have been made to the agency since widespread leaks in the Central Artery tunnel were disclosed. The turnpike then faced inquiries about the contract with Creative Response Concepts, which originally was to extend for three months and pay $75,000.

"Their work was completed," Doug Hanchett, a spokesman for the authority, said last night of Creative Response Concepts. He would not comment further. Amorello, the Turnpike Authority chairman, was not available for comment.

A top aide to a senior Massachusetts congressional leader said the authority's hiring of the firm infuriated staff in Kerry's office and that of US Senator Edward M. Kennedy. Kennedy's spokesman, David Smith, said the senator's office would not comment.

Asked by a Globe reporter whether Amorello and the authority faced pressure to fire the firm and Russell, Hanchett said, "I can't comment on that."

The turnpike's decision was a quick turnaround for the authority, which earlier in the day began fielding questions from the media and members of the state's congressional delegation over its decision to hire Russell last month.

Turnpike officials acknowledged that Russell's role with the swift boat veterans was known to Amorello, a former Republican state senator, and his aides when they approved the three-month contract. But in a statement, the authority said it was looking to the firm for public relations expertise; the company's client list includes some of the country's top corporations.

"Creative Response Concepts was retained by the Turnpike Authority because of the intense national interest in this story," Hanchett said in his statement. "Brought in on an interim basis, the firm's job was to assist in reminding the public that the Big Dig remains under construction and that this new roadway network is perfectly safe to use. The firm came highly recommended, and its broad client base simply wasn't a factor."

Kerry and the Democrats say the swift boat group's attacks on the senator's record were lies and distortions. The group was funded by a wealthy conservative Texas businessman, Robert Perry, who pumped $3.8 million of his own funds into the effort.

As word spread yesterday of the firm's link to the swift boat group, Democrats in Boston reacted strongly.

"The feelings are very strong among Democrats," said Philip W. Johnston, the Massachusetts Democratic Party chairman who was reached yesterday in Orlando, Fla., where he is attending a conference of party leaders. He said he had just emerged from an afternoon session where the swift boat ads were the subject of intense discussion.

"It was a irresponsible and untruthful campaign to destroy John Kerry's reputation with lies and distortions about his military record," Johnston said.

Earlier in the day, Russell said the Turnpike Authority was aware of Creative Response Concepts' role in representing the veterans group. But he noted that the firm's client list includes Microsoft, Time Warner Inc., and Viacom and said it takes a "bipartisan approach" representing its corporate clients.

The firm's client list also includes the Republican National Committee, along with strongly conservative advocacy groups such as the Christian Coalition, Contract with America, and Americans for Fair Taxation.

It also represents Regnery Publishing of Washington, D.C., which published "Unfit for Command," a book by Swift Boat Veterans leader John O'Neill that attacked Kerry's war record.

Regnery also published Governor Mitt Romney's book, "Turnaround," a memoir of his work organizing the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City.

"They certainly knew the track record of the company," Russell said in an interview, before he was advised last night that the firm's contract with the Big Dig was canceled.

He said no one from the Turnpike Authority questioned whether Creative Response Concepts' relationship with the swift boat group could create political problems in the home state of the Democratic presidential nominee.

"The election is over, and this company has a reputation of offering professional service," Russell said.

Russell would not comment on how the firm landed its contract with the Turnpike Authority. One link, according to a senior aide at the agency, was Dan Daly, who served in Vietnam and is active in swift boat veterans' circles. Daly, who ran for the Republican nomination to oppose Kerry for the Senate in 1990 but lost, is currently working with the authority in creating the Rose Kennedy Greenway Conservancy board. Daly could not be reached for comment last night.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 07:49 AM
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16. And this attack on Kerry goes back decades.
9/20/1984 Boston Globe:

Richard Viguerie, publisher of the Conservative Digest who runs a direct- mail advertising service for conservative causes, called Shamie's victory the biggest surprise of the 1984 election. "Today, conservatives across the country have a big smile on their faces because of Ray Shamie," said Viguerie. "He's a real hero to do what he did - win in Massachusetts, the land of the infidel. He was David marching into Goliath's neighborhood.

"This reconfirms the Republican platform," Viguerie continued. "Ronald Reagan and the Republican Party are very much in the mainstream. Ray Shamie is where the country is."

Viguerie said he planned to make a personal donation to the Shamie campaign, and representatives of conservative political action committees said they would back the candidate if he requested funds. Both Shamie and Kerry refused political action committee money in the primary.

James Ellis, assistant director of the Committee on the Survival of a Free Congress, a conservative political action committee, said he hoped Shamie would accept funds because "there are a lot of people here who want to help him."

Ellis said he felt Shamie stood a better chance of winning against Kerry than against Kerry's opponent in the primary, Rep. James Shannon, because "Shannon is more moderate and Kerry is farther to the left."

3/4/88 boston Globe, Michael Kranish article:

WASHINGTON

NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw looked sternly into the camera and gave the late-breaking headlines: Panama in crisis, the United States might have to take military action, Cuban president Fidel Castro denying his connection with Panama's drug economy. Brokaw last week turned to his monitor, where Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, one of the Senate's chief critics of Panama's strongman, stood on the Capitol steps.

While it is hardly unusual for most senators to be interviewed on network news live, it was an extraordinary moment for Kerry, who by most accounts is little known outside of Massachusetts and Washington. He is the other senator from Massachusetts. The senator conservative groups still call a "communist sympathizer." The senator who, according to a Wall Street Journal profile last year, is "hardly ever on television and isn't usually quoted in newspapers outside his own state."

So here was Kerry responding to Brokaw, live at the top of the network news. Kerry, his trademark thatch of hair and lean jaw filling the screen, said Fidel Castro is involved in drug trafficking. Kerry, acting like the former prosecutor that he is, held up a fuzzy photograph that supposedly showed Castro and an alleged drug dealer, and Kerry said it proved a "narco" conspiracy. Kerry even suggested Castro take a lie-detector test.

The spree of national attention continued, with Kerry on the Sunday television talk shows, on the radio, on the Washington local news, the most sought-after interview in town. "Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, who chaired the committee that investigated Panamanian strongman Manuel Noriega . . ."

It all seemed so far from Kerry's far-left image, and that was exactly what Kerry wanted: mainstream credibiilty. There was Kerry, joining forces with far-right Sen. Jesse Helms (R-N.C.) to denounce Noriega. There was Kerry, being the first senator briefed by the Reagan administration about the possibility of Noriega's ouster.

For Kerry, the last four weeks have been among the best in his political life. In one swoop, he is taking on drugs, communism, the fate of Central America and the Reagan administration -- all while his conservative critics have little choice but to squirm in silence. He is at the center of attention as chairman of an obscure Senate narcotics subcommittee's hearings on Panama's alleged drug-dealing leadership. Kerry's basic charge is that the Reagan Administration knew Noriega was a murderer and drug king but did nothing to stop Noriega, and that it proves Reagan was leading a "phony" war on drugs.

This, it seems, is John Forbes Kerry's dream come true. It is his moment, his 15 minutes of national fame and more, his rebut to all those years of being ridiculed for wearing the JFK monogram on his shirt and his heart on his sleeve.

Kerry, perhaps remembering former Speaker Thomas P. (Tip) O'Neill's advice that "all politics is local," spent much of an interview this week stressing his devotion to Massachusetts issues, saying at one point, "Look, I'm equally happy fighting for the handicapped parking issue." But those who have watched Kerry say he is in his element in the Noriega drug hearings.

It came to this: one of the most conservative commentators in town, John McLaughlin, asked on a television interview last week whether Kerry is interested in a cabinet post in a Dukakis administration. Kerry said he would not.

"As a senator," Kerry replied, "I'm having too much fun."

To understand how this came to be Kerry's moment, and how this has symbolized his effort to change his far-left label and win respect, a quick history of the most famous Kerry anecdote is needed.

It was 1971. Kerry, who received three Purple Hearts during his Vietnam service, had become a leader of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, leading protests in Washington. He testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee against the war, saying in a memorable line, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"

The performance was covered glowingly by the Boston and national news media, including a comment by Sen. Claiborne Pell (D-R.I.), who said at the time that he hoped Kerry someday would join him as a senator on the committee. When Kerry tossed over a fence a set of war medals -- he later admitted they were not his own -- the reviews were not as favorable.

Nonetheless, Kerry, the son of a diplomat who was raised partly in Europe and educated at a New Hampshire boarding school and Yale University, seemed on his way to Washington the very next year. He beat nine primary opponents in the race for a US House seat but lost the general election. The former Massachusetts lieutenant governor finally made it to Washington in 1984.

But his entry into Washington was sometimes rocky, with some stories focusing on the fact that he was rich, handsome, separated from his wife and a regular on the party circuit. The Washington Post created a stir in a lengthy 1985 profile by reporting that Kerry's surgery to straighten his jawbone from a hockey accident "coincidentally made him more attractive to the cameras." The story went on to say that Kerry had been arrogant, even "downright disrespectful" to congressional colleagues.

"Kerry had not run for the House and he was new and unknown in the Senate, so he had not yet gotten the respect of his colleagues," a Kerry friend said. Under the image-conscious guidance of his advisers, Kerry largely quit the social scene. From that point on, Kerry slowly built his niche that led to his role in the Panama hearings this winter.

One of the first things that Kerry did after entering the Senate was to tell the leadership about his ambition to join the committee he once testified before. When he was asked to list his three preferences for committee assignments, he wrote: "Foreign Relations, Foreign Relations, Foreign Relations."

He got the assignment.

And he began to change. He began to appreciate the importance of the clubby atmosphere of the Senate, of getting things done by working with fellow senators. In a move that shocked some observers, Kerry, known as an "outsider," took the ultimate Senate insider-establishment position, chairing in 1986 the Democratic Party's Senate Election Committee. Although Kerry is one of three senators who refuses contributions from Political Action Committees -- he says there is a public perception of undue corporate influence by the PACs -- he did not hesitate to take millions of dollars in PAC money for the election committee. And because the committee disburses its money to all Senate Democrats, Kerry immediately won friends among his colleagues and collected many political IOUs.

"It's important because it helps determine the political well-being of many of Kerry's political colleagues," said Sen. Pell, a Kerry benefactor who is in his 24th year on the Foreign Relations Committee, and is its chairman.

"That was the turning point for John Kerry in the Senate," said a long-time Kerry friend of the election committee chairmanship. "It enabled him to win respect on his side of the aisle among Democrats that he didn't have before."

And Kerry began making waves in his Foreign Relations position. Although Kerry has received little national credit for it, he was among the first to publicly accuse former White House aide Lt. Col. Oliver North of funneling secret military aid to the Nicaraguan contras in apparent violation of US law.

But when the Senate leadership picked the Iran-contra committee membership, Kerry's name was missing. Kerry said it was because the leadership wanted him to devote time to his chairmanship of the Election Committee. Others say it was because Kerry was a freshman.

In any case, Kerry says it was one of the most frustrating times of his political career. He said that he learned through a variety of sources not only about North's secret aid program, but also that the contras raised much of their money from drug operations. Yet when Kerry released a December 1986 report about North, he made an agreement with then-Foreign Relations Committee chairman Sen. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) not to mention the drug allegations. It was just too murky, too sleazy, too unsubstantiated.

But soon it became clear that the Iran-contra committee was not going to seriously investigate the drug allegations either. At one point, Kerry privately gave the allegations to Sen. David Boren (D-Okla.), an Iran-contra committee member whom Kerry trusted because the two senators were Yale classmates and friends. But, still, the allegations were barely mentioned at the hearings.

"I gave Kerry's information to my staff, and the reason we didn't go any further into it is, they simply were not able to verify enough of the conclusions to proceed," Boren said.

Said Kerry: "I was disappointed the Iran-contra committee didn't go into the drug story. I thought they had the resources and the staff to do it. I don't know why they didn't go into it."

Kerry, meanwhile, had one staffer, Jonathan Winer, working on it. Based on a series of allegations, Kerry began to believe not only that contras were involved in drugs, but also that the CIA financed dictators who condoned drug dealing in their countries. Kerry said he became obsessed with what he describes as the "shocking, unconscionable fact" that the Reagan administration was professing to fight a war on drugs while propping up governments in Panama and elsewhere that he said catered to drug traffickers.

He took his information to Sens. Pell and Lugar, the chairman and ranking minority members of the Foreign Relations Committee. Kerry laid out his allegations and asked for permission to investigate. The two senior senators were skeptical, with Lugar suggesting that investigations were better left to the Justice Department and a grand jury. It was a sensitive discussion: Lugar was one of the Senate's most outspoken supporters of the contras, and Kerry one of the loudest opponents. If Kerry's allegations were true, it could devastate the contra effort. And Lugar, who was committee chairman at the time, had the Republican majority power to squelch Kerry's effort.

As Lugar recalled it in an interview this week, "Kerry did not have any particular standing and was just a member in the wilderness. I said his charges cried out for a federal investigation. I was concerned about turning the Foreign Relations Committee into an investigative body. Kerry's point was that the Department of Justice was part of the problem. It turned out Kerry was correct, because when the Justice Department refused to give us information about this, I came to share Kerry's view. I admit to you that Justice was not performing its duties. So I think Kerry deserves a great deal of credit for all of this coming out now in the hearings."

Around the time of Lugar's conversations with Kerry in late 1986, Kerry began to get a bit paranoid. And that was understandable. The Iran-contra committee has since discovered that North had asked the Justice Department to find information that, Kerry said, was meant to discredit him.

Kerry alleged this week that the Reagan administration in early 1987 began to apply pressure on him in other ways. He said the White House orchestrated a series of negative stories about him, including the March 1987 Wall Street Journal piece that quoted a number of conservative activists being highly critical of him as being "pro-communist." At the same time, the Conservative Digest labeled him "the most peculiar man in the Senate," and the conservative Washington Times alleged that Kerry covered up drug dealing by the Sandinista government in Nicaragua. And a Justice Department spokesman, in a rare swipe at an individual senator, said at that time the department just didn't believe Kerry's drug stories.

"The administration was trying to personally discredit me," Kerry alleged this week. "They were looking for a way to throw mud and discredit me, stop us, scare us and intimidate us. They were trying to 'fringe me' because of the track we were on with respect to Oliver North, narcotics and the whole thing. We were getting word back secretly through our sources that the single most worrisome thing to the administration was the narcotics. They thought they were over Iran-contra except for that."

Nonetheless, the inability of Kerry to get the drug story before the Iran-contra committee, combined with the critical stories about him, took a toll.

"There were some shaky moments and this office went through some hard times," Kerry said. "It wasn't always upbeat and smiley. There was some introspective questioning about whether what we were up against was impossible to crack . . . that, God, something awful is going to happen to us if we continue down this road."

But, according to numerous accounts, Kerry began privately to rejoice that the Iran-contra committee had left the sleaziest part of the story to him. He began to see it as the ideal project for himself, as the former prosecutor and foreign relations expert, being given the task of investigating the untold part of the story.

"I began to look at it as a case, like a prosecutor . . . that I could reopen Iran-contra," Kerry said. He convinced the Foreign Relations Committee to hire one of the best investigators in town, Jack Blum, who had worked on Senate investigations ranging from the disappearance of financeer Robert Vesco to the CIA involvement in the 1973 ouster of Chilean president Salvador Allende. Blum said of Kerry: "In 11 years of Senate investigations, I have never seen a senator get so involved in the detail of an investigation. Usually hearings are purely a staff effort, but the amount of time he puts in on this is phenomenal."

And Kerry applied the lessons he says he has learned in his political life. Rather than blurt unsubstantiated allegations, he made a "very frustrating" decision to keep quiet for more than 18 months. He told his staff that he wanted to build a case step by step against Noriega, proving that the CIA had been in bed with a dictator who was responsible for allowing drugs to be shipped into the United States.

Kerry had become chairman of the Foreign Relations subcommittee on terrorism, narcotics and international operations, a little known committee that previously had delved into such topics as the role of the Voice of America. Although the subcommittee sounds important, it was one that more senior senators chose not to chair.

Just days before Kerry's hearings were set to begin last month, Kerry was both upstaged and vindicated.

The Justice Department, which a year earlier said it didn't believe Kerry, announced the Florida indictment of Noriega on drug charges. Kerry said that the Reagan administration only went ahead with the indictment because of his upcoming hearings, but the administration has denied any such connection. Kerry reportedly was furious at the Justice Department for stealing the thunder of his hearings, but in retrospect he acknowledges the indictment gave instant credibility to himself and the hearings. Nonetheless, some critics have questioned the motives of some convicted felons who have testified about Noriega and the alleged involvement of Cuban communist leader Fidel Castro.

Most of all, the indictment enabled Kerry to criticize drug lords, communists and the Reagan administration all at once -- and to have the support of all members of his committee, including Helms, who is trying to use the charges to revoke the United States' agreement to turn over the Panama Canal. As one observer put it, "it was perfect because he can go after the administration and they can't criticize Kerry without seeming soft on drugs."

Kerry, told of that assessment, said, "that is exactly right. That is a very perceptive comment."

Even conservative activist Richard Viguerie, who last year called Kerry a "very dangerous radical," is at a loss to criticize Kerry's role in the hearings, sputtering that "this is an unusual, unique issue where conservatives and liberals work together, the kind that comes maybe once every five years." Viguerie then suggested that Kerry "still was soft on communism," but admitted that he couldn't remember exactly why, other than his opposition to the contras and "something to do with his being a Vietnam veteran against the war."

Now Kerry, the man who formerly was best known as an opponent for sending US troops to Vietnam, is suggesting troops be used in the dangerous business of interdicting drugs on foreign soil. The senator accused of being soft on communism is taking on the hemisphere's top communist, Castro. The liberal senator is adopting the conservatives' favorite cause of drug abuse. He can point to the administration's indictment to back up all his charges. And his colleagues in the Senate, some of whom quite recently ignored or scorned him, are paying their respects and thanking him for contributions to their campaigns.


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Looky Looky who funded Weld in 1996
WELD RANKS 2D ONLY TO GINGRICH IN HELP FROM GOPAC
Boston Globe, Third, Sec. Metro, p B1 08-23-1996
By Globe Staff Frank Phillips

Almost from the day he launched his Senate campaign, Gov. William F. Weld has deftly distanced himself from House Speaker Newt Gingrich and the Republican right. But that hasn't dampened Gingrich's key financial backers in their enthusiasm to get Weld into the US Senate.

Weld is among the top recipients of money from wealthy donors across the country who make up the financial backbone of GOPAC, the political action committee that, until recently, Gingrich led. According to campaign finance records, Weld has received $48,000 in the seven months from December to June 30 from 41 contributors who show up as major donors to GOPAC.

Weld appears to rank second only to Gingrich among congressional candidates receiving money from GOPAC donors. The speaker has received $81,000 from GOPAC donors since January 1995, records show.

Weld was listed in May among the favored candidates on the World Wide Web site on the Internet that GOPAC uses to alert donors to whom they should throw their support.

The governor has also fared well among those on Gingrich's own donor list, Federal Election Commission records show. About 61 donors listed in the ``Friends of Newt Gingrich'' committee have given a total of $88,000 in contributions to Weld's Senate campaign.

Among Weld's GOPAC donors are some of the most conservative GOP money men, among them millionaire Richard Mellon Scaife of Pittsburgh and Robert H. Krieble of Hartford, who bankrolls conservative movements.

Krieble, who gave Weld $1,000 in May, has donated more than $200,000 to GOPAC over the years, while Scaife has given the Gingrich-controlled PAC $75,000. Scaife has donated $2,000 to Weld's Senate effort.

The husband of GOPAC chairman Gay Gaines gave Weld $1,000. He and his wife have donated $146,000 to GOPAC in recent years.

Of the GOPAC donors who contributed to Weld, 31 are what the group calls charter members, who gave $10,000 or more to GOPAC. The 41 GOPAC donors who gave to Weld have donated $1.2 million to GOPAC over the years.

************************

See what I mean. People have been after Kerry for decades.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 02:26 PM
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22. Thanks for posting
That excellent blast from the past.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:04 AM
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17. How did I totally miss this story??
Thanks for posting - not only a great footnote to the campaign, but it's also a fascinating look inside Massachusetts politics.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:06 AM
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18. I don't know. But it is kinda sweet.
I really loved that story. I would have captioned it, "Not in my state, you bastards." Notice how quickly MA cancelled the contract. LOL!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:25 AM
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19. This strikes a chord:
"And Kerry applied the lessons he says he has learned in his political life. Rather than blurt unsubstantiated allegations, he made a "very frustrating" decision to keep quiet for more than 18 months. He told his staff that he wanted to build a case step by step against Noriega, proving that the CIA had been in bed with a dictator who was responsible for allowing drugs to be shipped into the United States."


Election Reform, anyone? I think Someone may well be doing a lot behind the scenes.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:00 PM
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20. excellent point, Ginny!
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:05 PM
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23. Kerry's team answer
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/entertainment/movies/12825328.htm

A Kerry spokesman suggested the suit was designed as a fund-raising tool for the veterans foundation and others.

"This is simply more of the same smears and sleaze against a decorated Vietnam veteran from more of the same serial liars who disgraced themselves in 2004," spokesman David Wade said.

"It's too bad the truth doesn't matter to the right wing when there's a chance to fund-raise based on outright falsehood and slander," he said.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:26 PM
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31. If this is why they are suing, they should be suing US! It was the dem
bloggers that did the mass emailing to all of Sinclair's advertisers, threatening that we would boycott their products. The advertisers backed out one by one. And the show did not go on as planned.

It was not Kerry, it was his supporters!

And it was one of the finest moments of the whole year imho!:toast:

I feel sorry for these guys. They have no life. The election is over.
Why don't they just get over it!?

Maybe I should mail them one of these bumperstickers? lol
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:28 PM
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32. As Wade says, it is about raising funds, nothing else.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 05:41 PM
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24. I am expecting some stuff on this...
I emailed and am expecting some stuff on this, should be later tonight. I will post a thread on Dem Daily and then here. If everyone can help get it out when I do I am sure they will appreciate.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:15 PM
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25. Will do. These people are beneath contempt.
They make me so mad. I wish someone would put a bowl over their particular rock so they couldn't climb out from under it anymore. It's just disgusting.

BTW, Kerry's people are so nice about it. (Reason number bazillion and 2 why I can't run for public office, I swear too much.) I would call them fucking douchebag, piece of shit, scumbag liars. I hope they choke to death on their own lying tongues. Then again, if my single claim to fame and fortune was spitting on the honorable record of another veteran, I guess I would be pimping for more money from the hopeless sacks of shit who still vaguely remember my name. Pathetic, yes, but it's all these oozing slime-bastards know, how to whore for money. It's so friggin sad. (The above Masshole speak means I can't stands 'em.)
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:34 PM
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26. No need to translate; Massholes aren't the only ones who swear.
That about sums up my thoughts on them, profanity definitely included (hell, you might have even watered it down a little. I would've thrown in more gratuitous 'fucks' just for shits and giggles).
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 08:38 PM
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27. Same here - though I think they could have just said
"what do you expect of extreme right wing activists?" Seeing that Kerry loves to call himself an activist - that's clearly not a negative charge. So, that leaves extreme right wing -- which they are.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:00 PM
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28. Your right
NExt time I should use some choicer phrases that employ goodies like 'Your Mama' in them. Those always work for me.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:17 PM
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30. My 17 year old, writing about our family,
claims that as we had banned so many of the normal childhood bad words to call each other and had brought them up with certain political values, that she and her sisters when really mad would call the object of their anger a "Republican".

It really seems ironic after they called Kerry every name in the book and blamed him for actions done by others with very tenuous links to him, they have the nerve to claim that that mean Senator called them extreme right wing activists. (Making a political movie definitely makes them activists and he seems to have correctly identified their spot on the political spectrum.)
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:32 PM
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33. What a bunch of weekk-kneed wussies
Edited on Wed Oct-05-05 09:33 PM by TayTay
Gawd, do they need their moms to cut their meat for them too! This is their problem, the Senator from Massachusetts was mean to them? I am now firmly convinced that Rethugs are regressing to kindergarten form. It must all the impending indictments hovering around the REthug party. It has caused the lot of them to become mealy-mouthed little whining bastards.

Activist! I'd say bite me, but with these guys, I'd make sure my tetanus shots were up to date first. Probably rabies too!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:02 PM
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34. Don't forget "Evil violators of mothers."
Molly Ivins said the late Mickey Leland once hissed to a bunch of pharmaceutical lobbyists (or other worthless louts) who had just torpedoed a Texas legislature bill for generic prescription drugs: "You are evil mother*******."

So I've adopted that as my all-purpose, profanity-free term. One of my most cherished fantasies is to use it on DeLay or Zell Miller, but John O'Neill and his ilk fall into that category, too.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:14 PM
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35. It's not that they are so nice...
about it, just publically. I imagine it is tough to hold the tongue sometimes.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:15 PM
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36. Has this shown up any where else?
Any pulse on what our won are saying besides this one thread?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:51 PM
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37. In LBN, it's here
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:56 PM
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38. Here we go - it's hitting msm
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:45 AM
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39. Suggesting for fighting this...
Donate - JohnKerry.com!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:49 AM
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40. I hope he does fight this. He's not in the middle of a campaign now.
I don't know his feelings about this group, but - my personal feelings -
I wish he would give them hell. Take them down. Expose them for the bunch of f*cking liars that they are. I hated what they did during the campaign, and I hated it even more that they became a central issue during the campaign.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

It's amazing. I am sitting here feeling the same level of anger towards them that I had a year ago. I want them to go away *poof* vanish, and never hear from them again, except to apologize to our war hero!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:04 AM
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41. But if he spends all of his time fighting them, there will be less time
for helping Dems getting elected, helping Katrina victims, making major speeches on Iraq, getting kids health insurance, and so on.

To invest your time and money in fighting these goons seems pointless. Here's hoping they can make this go away FAST. I mean I want my money going to johnkerry.com to be used for the good causes Kerry is fighting for in the Senate. Okay, now I AM getting mad, if this thing distracts him too much and takes up precious resources from his PAC.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:10 AM
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42. I don't think their case has merit
I think it's a ploy to get fund-raising money. A lot of the people who originally funded SBVT are in trouble. (See the post on the Wyly Bros.above.) These people want to remain viable in the political wars. They have but one issue and they are now trying to bring that one issue to the fore again.

Their lawsuit is without merit. It is a simple free speech issue. Saying someone discredited your film by saying something negative about it, would cause every film critic in America to lose their job. It is without standing. Because this case would involve larger issues of free speech, Kerry can invite other groups in to fund-raise. (I really think the court will throw it out.)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 08:43 AM
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43. That also explains why the legal complaint included
Edited on Thu Oct-06-05 08:44 AM by karynnj
so much on the content of the movie. It's incredibly disingenuous of them to being saying they should have been able to put out this pack of lies and expect Kerry to not fight back.

It seems like they are doing this for both fund raising and to smear Kerry again. If this were genuine, their press release would concentrate on whatever the Kerry campaign did that was supposedly illegal rather than the content of the movie. That their charge is predicated on Kerry knowing their movie was true, is really pretty strange.

What is cool is that Kerry's inbred good manners and politeness make it harder for them - his comment that they were extreme right wing activists - has to be harder to question than if he would have called them the names most of us were saying or at least thinking.

I hope they will throw it out as Kerry is doing far more important things for people who need help.

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