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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 03:59 PM
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*'s approval ratings by state
I saw this in GD and thought I'd post it here for anyone interested. Of course this makes me feel both good and bad because at the end of the day were still stuck with the Idiot King. Oh, what should have been!

http://surveyusa.com/50State2005/50StatePOTUS1005SortedbyState.htm

Anyway, I'm very proud to say that * now has a negative rating in my home state of NC (41% approve / 56% disapprove. A -15% decrease in support). And for a limited time, I'll even be willing to admit that I was born in SC where *'s approval ratings have decreased 18% with 40% approving and 58% disapproving.

But the prize of the day has to go to Massachusetts (where else?)! There *'s approval rating has slipped 40% with 28% approving and 68% disapproving. Bravo!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:04 PM
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1. Congrats on NC--pretty good for a Southern state
Wisconsin is down to 36%--whoo hoo! I have not seen a B/C bumper sticker in quite a while, come to think of it. Just the usual faded-out Support the Troops magnets.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:29 PM
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2. They still love him in Idaho tho!
What is up with Idaho???

I don't get it!!!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:42 PM
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3. They've always been weird
I don't get it either. I lived there for a short time back in 81. They've always been a sort of "tough shit" for you state. They have even taxed food at varying times, IIRC. In Montana, mining unions, and later railroad unions, had a huge influence. Around 1900, Butte was the largest city between St. Louis and San Franciso. Idaho never really had that history. Agriculture and logging has always ruled. I don't know if they even had a grange or other populist agriculture movement either. Southern Idaho is also very heavily Mormon, whereas Montana had a stronger Catholic influence, with early missions and then the mining Irish in Butte. I think the early religious settlers of a region have affected which direction the politics have gone later.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 04:58 PM
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4. This is the best proof I've seen of election fraud in Ohio
Look:

State Approval Disapproval Who Won

OH 37% 61% B
OR 38% 59% K
VA 41% 56% B
MN 39% 58% K
FL 41% 58% B
PA 36% 62% K

Ohio has one of the highest disapproval rates, other than very blue states. How could this have changed so fast? Oregon's disapproval rates aren't as high as Ohio's. What is going on here? Florida looks more reasonable, but Ohio looks suspicious to me. Why are they flipping to disapproval at a faster rate than other swing states?

Did they EVER approve of the president, and the election results are simply just wrong? Look, I know a lot of you already believe in the Ohio was stolen deal, but I am very skeptical. But this poll is suspicious. Unless there is a local reason for why Ohio has fallen so fast, I'm beginning to think this is real. I don't want to believe in the "Ohio was stolen" meme, because that would mean that we'll never win, unless we win by a landslide. Or Rove is indicted.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:15 PM
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5. Just looked at your post down thread, Pirhana
Perhaps the greater disapproval plunge in Ohio is because of Paul Hackett, and all the publicity that got? I'm not sure, but that might account for these numbers. But it's just odd for a state's numbers to change at a faster rate than even some of the Kerry states.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:17 PM
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7. They had all of those soldiers killed recently in Ohio.
I bet that had something to do with it.

And the scandals, oil prices. And Hackett's brutal honesty. Add it up. And add that to the disparity of # of voting machines in Ohio. It makes sense.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 05:19 PM
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6. Maybe all the scandals??
That really is interesting. The only thing I can think of, besides fraud, is Bush is being tarnished with a very broad Republican scandal brush, which is good news for us if true.

The elections really don't make sense. Kerry got close to all the same percentages as Gore and beat him in some areas, plus picked up a larger percentage of new voters. If Rove won Ohio on new "values" voters, that doesn't hold true just by looking at the statistics. Unless he's saying he got already registered voters to show up and vote.

Oregon kept all our Gore voters and pulled in all our Nader voters. We didn't lose a smidgen. How could that not have happend in Florida? Florida is as confusing to me as Ohio because of that.

Overall though, never underestimate liberal hatred. For some of these people, unless it's a Zell Miller Democrat, you're just putting a bullseye on the barn with any national Democrat. It doesn't matter how much they don't like Bush, their liberal hatred is even greater I'm afraid.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 06:43 PM
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8. Woo Hoo, PA!!!
36-62. I'm so proud.
Ohio does look very suspicious.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 07:57 PM
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9. OMG! I never thought this would happen
That Friggin Idiot is less popular in Massachusetts than the Yankees. 28%, geez, can you imagine what we think of Cheney, the Dark Prince of Deception?

I'm getting the champagne out for when we break 70% in disapproval. We trail Rhode Island in that regard. (I did some math and Blue New England hates * by an average of 31.33 % approval to 66.66%. He friggin bites.)

I just can't wait for Fitzmas Day, the most wonderful day fo the Millenium. (Well there could have been another most wonderful day, but Ohio dropped the ball.)

I wish I could be a fly on the wall in Sen. Kerry's office when Fitzmas day comes and we all get to unwrap our indictment presents. It would be very intereting to see the Senator's face.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:21 PM
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11. Oh Fitzmas Tree, Oh Fitzmas Tree
how lovely are your branches. Isn't that how it goes?

Finally a holiday that Democrats of all religious persuasions can celebrate together! And just what do you serve for Fitzmas Day dinner? Lame duck of course!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:38 PM
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14. Have yourself a Merry little Fitzmas
I am getting some of the Kerry cheese they had up in Vermont. (Yes, they named a cheese for Sen. Kerry. It could have been worse. It could have been a cow. Sigh! I would have preferred a new flavor from Ben & Jerry's but then my husband would ask what are you eating and I would have to answer and boy could that get awkward fast.)

'twas the night before Fitzmas and all through the White House
Not a creature was stirring, they were all lawyering up.

I just hope that all that the indictments really do go out soon, I can't take much more of this suspense.

Any bets on when Fitzmas Day will actually get here. Some say tomorrow (Oct 19.) Some say next week. I wish I knew.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:10 PM
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15. I kind of hope it's not tomorrow (being selfish here)
I'll be computerless for most of the day tomorrow at work because we're getting computers so our IT Dept. will be taking my old one in the morning and transferring everything to my new one so I'm not sure when I'll be able to check in to see what's happening. Those first few moments of Fitzmas Day are always the best (it's the looks on the children's faces I think) so I'd hate to miss it!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:16 PM
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16. I work in a news aggragator.
I am going to hve a freakin heart attack trying to track breaking news. Then I'll go in the newsroom and watch TV and sing out in joy and cheering. (Hey, it's Massachusetts or as someone said on C-Span today, Massachewits, strange pronounciation.)

Rockin around the Fitzmas tree, have a happy holiday! (Okay, it's a mum, but it's a Fitzmas tree for me.)
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:33 PM
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17. I have a really stupid question Tay Tay
What the fuck is a news aggragator?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:39 PM
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18. Sorry, I should have explained.
We get news feeds in from 6,000 global sources. We bag it, tag it, and send it out to newspapers and industry and what not. I am actually employed as an expert on 'tagging' like what they are doing to articles now at Kos. (Bagging and tagging.)

We used to have Jay Leno as a subscriber. I could tell what the monologue was going to be that night because I knew what Leno's feed was. We have some select clients including some US legislative governing bodies and people in charge of keeping the country safe at the highest levels and the world governing body that we have an appointed amb. to. We prepare their news feeds. (Geez, that sounds impressive. But we don't originate news. We bag it, tag it and send it on to people who, presumably, read it.)
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:47 PM
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19. Very cool! Thanks for the explanation!
Sounds like a very interesting job. So you basically know what people are going to know before they know they're going to know it.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 09:51 PM
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20. No, just on some of the stale stuff
Anyone can get breaking news over the 'net on big stories. We make money on idustry think pieces and financial news. But the breaking news and the political feeds are perks that I do appreicate.

(Leno's stuff was weird news. It didn't have to be breaking for him to use it. It just had to be weird. He might have gotten stuff that was a week old, but his writers could use it that night. I could check his feed, see the weird news and then watch later and see it. It was not time sensitive. A lot of expensive pieces are not really all that time sensitive or that interesting. Patent news is expensive and very, very valuable and boring as hell.)
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 10:07 PM
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21. LMAO
Sorry. It was the 'Ben and Kerry's'.

So now what? I have to wake up early, go to church AND visit my mom? I'm going to be up all night wrapping Fitzmas presents. I haven't even started decorating, and it takes me days to untangle the lights for the Fitzmas tree. And the goose is not yet cooked (but soon).

Bah, humbug. These indictments had better be worth it.

Got to go, cookies in the oven.

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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:19 PM
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10. TEXAS is what's astonishing.
Edited on Tue Oct-18-05 08:24 PM by Firespirit
Approve 42%, Disapprove 54%. NEVER would have believed it. EVER.

For some reason he's still breaking even (same approval/disapproval %) in my state (MS). Oh well.



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Edit to observe that this is my evil 666th post.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:23 PM
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12. I thought it was strange that *'s ratings didn't go down in either
MS or LA. I figured they would (especially in LA).
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-18-05 08:28 PM
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13. Well...
I don't know how many people have been allowed back in NO, but it could be that part of LA's figure has to do with the fact that so many of them are still displaced, and that the poorer New Orleanians can't be polled because they don't have a house/phone/etc.

Less (?)optimistically, it could be that the slams on LA officials actually worked within the state. :(

As for MS.... his figures *have* gone down. He had 59-60% of the vote if you believe the results (which I don't necessarily recommend--we had a lot of Diebold equipment in use), 54-55% by the exit polls. There's a bottom that he'll hit here, though, because the fundamentalist evangelical population won't be swayed by anything except maybe--maybe--Jesus himself coming down to Earth and calling Bush evil.
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