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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:13 PM
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Deja Vu all over again.
With the excitement and buzz of JK's Iraq speech today, and the anticipation of the coming of Fitzmas, doesn't it seem like it's this time last year all over again? All I need now is to see John in his LL Bean barn coat and I'd think I'd entered a time warp. Does anyone else feel this way or is it just me?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:37 PM
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1. If we COULD put the entire country in a time warp, could we just let the
time warp become reality. Could we make it so there is one more debate - one of the candidates has become more eloquent almost in proportion to the decline in basic articulateness of the other.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 09:17 PM
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2. I have a feeling that if the election was this year
Kerry would win in a landslide!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 09:28 PM
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3. You are right.
The poll today was 55-40%. sigh! Bitter and sweet.

But I am glad to have a voice of hope and a plan of action that is reasonable, well-thought out and pro-active. (I am so glad he's my Senator. Ah, people of PA -- he can be your honorary Senator as well. Cloning project complete. Here ya go.)
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 09:32 PM
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4. "If the election were held today"
I always love it when folks on television say that during election time. Yeah, if the election were held today, a lot of people would be very surprised and would probably miss it!

But yeah, I agree - if only. :-(
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 09:43 PM
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5. If we had had a damned media last year
Instead of the "incestuous amplification", this is the message the public would have seen and heard and the choice would have been obvious.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 10:09 PM
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6. Looking back at the media
I think the public heard more rw talking points about Kerry, plus the dreaded swbliars
than they heard Kerry.

It's proven over and over.
People constantly say "if only he gave that speech last year".
But he did! Kerry gave ALOT of speeches last year.

I hear that comment from both sides, and it is as frustrating when I hear it from a repug as when I hear it from a dem.

Where was the media anyway?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 10:47 PM
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7. Did you catch Olbermann last night?
I don't think I've heard anybody say something like this before, that the media was truly being pressured on what they put on the air.

OLBERMANN: ..You were good enough to come on this newscast with me late in the summer of 2003. It was August or September.

And by coincidence, either the next day or the day before, Jeanine Garofalo had been a guest on the newscast. And I got called into a vice president‘s office here and told, “Hey, we don‘t mind you interviewing these guys, but should you really have put liberals on, on consecutive nights?”

That‘s just over two years ago. Al, can you believe that the country was actually at that point that recently?

FRANKEN: I can believe that. And I can believe—see, when you hear that there‘s this liberal bias to the mainstream media, I mean, you‘re attesting to the fact that a vice president at MSNBC was, you know, two nights in a row, to have two liberals, if you can—and this is a crude way to do it—but if you put divide people into liberals and conservatives, the chances of that are one-half, I mean, essentially, aren‘t they, or are they one-quarter? I guess it‘s one-quarter that you would have two of any kind on two consecutive nights.

OLBERMANN: Right.

FRANKEN: But over the span of—how many years have you been on now?

OLBERMANN: This is—we‘re about two-and-a-half.

FRANKEN: OK. After two-and-a-half years, you‘d think that might happen a few times.

OLBERMANN: Yes. Thank goodness we have steered out of that time.

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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:15 PM
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8. I've actually felt extremely mopey lately
because of the memories of a year ago that are brought back. I was a bundle of nerves for weeks, so the memories are not particularly happy... but yeah, it does kind of feel like a time warp.
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