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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:41 AM
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IF DEAN DOESN'T GET DNC CHAIR I'M GOING TO START MY OWN PARTY
I'm so fed up with the Demo-Puke corporo-party. If Dean doesn't get DNC chair I'm going to burn my campaign memorobilia, put on my Che shirt, and declare myself a member of the Real Progressive Party of America (started by me). We will nominate Howard Dean for president every single election until the power of our Pure Liberalism prevails and the entire nation joins us in harmony.

DLC! Bushlite! Filthy centrist! Skull and Bones! DINO! Scoundrel! Rapscallion! Knave! Cur! Vagabond! Wastrel! Ne'er-do-well!

I bite my thumb at thee!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:42 AM
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1. well we aren't have auditions but you won the role
Seriously, they are so fuckin immature, like fuckin kids.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:45 AM
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2. Then I'm going to lock myself in my room!
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 12:45 AM by paulk
And never come out!

:cry:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:46 AM
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3. and I am gonna celebrate a centrist even though Ted Kennedy's partner
in the senate delegation is to his left :silly:.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:49 AM
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4. yeah, have you heard Mike Malloy lately?
He's on that same track: "I'm done with the Democratic Party! The Democratic Party is dead!" and on and on. Wah, wah, wah.

Seems to me it's better to fix it than start a new party from scratch.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 12:51 AM
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5. ew Malloy is also a southern or a christian basher I hear
thats a double owwie for my Virginian Catholic self.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:05 AM
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6. Sounds to me like AAR has more naysayers and prophets of doom
Than people actually interested in promoting the Democratic party.

You know, progressive radio only works if it lobbies for progressive candidates. The reason Limbaugh, Hannity et al are invaluable to the Puke party is because they don't just trash liberals... they also gush and worship the GOP assholes.

We need advocates for OUR side, not just more Bush haters.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:06 AM
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7. Can I get a side order of WORD...
with that Wordy McWord special?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:13 AM
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8. I listened to AAR for a couple of weeks
I really wanted to like it... but then Randi Rhodes went off on a Democrat bashing jag and I turned it off. That was three weeks ago.

I'm tellin' ya - that's a great strategy - first you shoot yourself in the foot - then you race the Republicans...
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:34 AM
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9. How the hell are we supposed to win the war of ideas
When our own "advocates" attack our men on the front lines? Someone needs to teach these people about the art of war. You don't win by betraying your own side. It's quite simple, really.
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:56 AM
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12. I quit listenting to AAR
When they started all the Kerry bashing the way they did I said screw them! Mike Malloy bashes Kerry and christians all the time. Then Randi Rhodes went into one of her damn ignorant fits one night and was so damn rude it was it unreal. So I refuse to listen to it to me they are as bad as the right wing nuts. I know other people that also quit listening for the same reasons I did and also refuse to listen again. I guess they don't give a damn if they run their listeners off or night. The only one that doesn't bash Kerry is Al Frankin and he takes up for Kerry when they start their crap about him. But when you listen to him you always here between breaks Malloy and Rhodes and I don't want to hear anything either one has to say anymore so I just don't listen. And Malloy needs to get a life and realize all christians aren't rightwing nuts and until he does he run more listeners off. Oh well not my problem. It's theirs so let them deal with it.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 02:00 AM
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13. Yeah Franken is good
He's funny as hell, too. "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" is a hysterical book, you should get it if you don't have it.

Christian bashing pisses me off. I'm a Catholic and my moral values are liberal and tolerant values, not narrow minded sanctimonious bullshit. With a name like Mike Malloy, he ought to respect that his Irish grandparents that came to America looking for a better life most likely weren't athiests, but Catholics.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:43 PM
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31. I've listened to him a few times,
and he is particularly mad at Southern Fundamentalists is that he was raised that way himself. I don't know much else about him, but that is where he's coming from.
But by contrast, Garrison Keillor was also raised in some really strict denomination, and he is mellow about it, and only pokes gentle fun at them. It takes all kinds.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:47 AM
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25. My 18 year old
Oh he would get so mad. You have to understand, he's a very quiet, reserved kid. But somebody would bash Kerry on t.v. and he'd just stand straight up off the couch, "no no, you all have to be together to win! Argh what is wrong with Democrats." If he can get it at 18... :shrug:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 02:58 AM
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14. Oh it's funny night
Over in the lounge there's a post about ripping out only one testicle and then imagining you did it to Bush.

Now this "first you shoot yourself in the foot - then you race the Republicans..." rotflmao

Is there a full moon or what?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:39 AM
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10. i hope he does end up being chairman of DNC
so then they can STFU about the primaries, and maybe get over their grudge against Kerry :hi:
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 01:41 AM
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11. Honestly, I don't even mind HIM so much
Edited on Fri Jan-14-05 01:42 AM by WildEyedLiberal
If he gets it, yay for him. If not, I won't cry.

But if it would make the crazies STFU, then I'll fucking campaign for him personally.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:01 AM
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15. That's my hope
Shutting their damned mouths... and watching the gymnastics when they try to justify Dean going centrist because he'll have to if he's going to represent Alabama and NYC at the same time.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:05 AM
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16. Their brains will implode with cognitive dissonance
And I will laugh. :evilgrin:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:09 AM
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17. Oh you can already hear it
"Dean was always a centrist". :eyes: They drive me loopy and I do blame Dean because HE plays it to the hilt.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:11 AM
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18. I know
I think it was incredibly dishonest of him to campaign as a progressive, personally.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:46 PM
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32. I am remiss--don't know a lot about Dean's politics
Can anyone point me to a website that can fill me in on Dean's history? thanks.
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:22 AM
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19. I think that is what we are all hoping for.
They are nerve racking as hell. Even when you ignore them just knowing they carry on and garbage they spew is enough to get on your nerves. But I do try to ignore them myself. But I don't think these people will ever shut up they will always find something to whine about.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:23 AM
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20. You down wit' RPP?!?!??!
YEAH YOU KNOW ME.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:27 AM
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21. It's the ONLY ACCEPTABLE PARTY FOR REAL PROGRESSIVES
And you must sign a loyalty oath to Howard Dean and True Liberalism upon joining.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:35 AM
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22. Can I sign a loyalty oath...
..to Dean, but still covet Kerry in the biblical sense?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:38 AM
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23. Well...
We encourage hypocrisy, so BE MY GUEST!
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:45 AM
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24. Excellent.
Where do I sign?
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:52 AM
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26. You must tattoo your devotion to Saint Howard into your flesh
Or, if you'd like to be a VIP party member, you can have it branded.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:23 AM
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27. I could do that...
it can go right next to my John Kerry portrait backpiece.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 04:25 AM
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28. Hypocrisy at its finest!
I like your style! :P
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 05:13 AM
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29. Thanks!
Yours is pretty awesome too.
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:35 PM
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30. I have no particular problem with Dean......
...but what astounds me is that so many far-left "Dems" idolize the guy as the only "real" liberal when in fact he IS a centrist.

IMO what these people like so much in Dean comes down to two things:'
1. He's loud and boisterous enough to suit them
2. They see him as a kind of martyr, which is apparently COOL now.

:shrug:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:50 PM
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33. Perhaps it is his ability to steal slogans...
from the likes of the late Paul Wellstone, who really did represent the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party.

Personally, I think it was the Vermont party. Everybody thought, vote Howard, get a birkenstock. Since the campaign pissed away their money on idiotic promotions, nobody got the birks. Hence, extreme grumpiness.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 02:15 AM
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34. Not all Deaniacs are anti-Kerry or obnoxious!
To me he'll always be Saint Howard not because he's a martyr or loud, but becuase I'm a bisexual crushie whose uncle blesses lesbian civil unions in VT because of HoHo.
My message to Deaniacs is to really follow their leader and not leave the Democratic Party. Stay and fight it out. Dean will not run again for president, but he will help Dems win.
Kerry is fighting, TOO! So is Kucinich! And I love them all, even though my political beliefs are somewhat to the left of Kucinich, I still love them all!
No hypocrisy to support Kerry, Kucinich, Dean, Gore, Edwards, and Hillary Clinton! We are all on the same party, working together! Why the hell did Dean and Kucinich campaign for Kerry, anyway?
Peace! Long live the Democratic Party!
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 02:45 AM
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35. Dean would not endorse this far left radicalism...
Dean is not running for prez, and if he ever did he would run as a Democrat and not as some more liberal than thou Naderite goon. Dean does not call himself a liberal, but a conservative (fiscally).
To me he was not the super liberal they claimed him to be, which is find because he never made these claims.
He later acknowledged Wellstone for the quote, "I'm here to represent the Democratic Wing of the Democratic party!" Notice he did not say liberal wing? Just a democrat and damn proud! What he said against Kerry during primaries was to distinguish himself as a candidate. He took back some of the rhetoric later, just like Kerry took back his attacks on Edwards (the diapers comment).
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 03:22 AM
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36. My problem isn't with Dean
But the people whose posts I am mocking who say overinflated things like "Dean for DNC or I'm going Green!" and imply that Dean is liberalism incarnate and that Kerry is Bushlite.

I've no problem with Dr. Dean at all, nor with those of his supporters who aren't frothing at the mouth left-wing freepers. It just seems that the crazies around DU like to pick Dean vs Kerry debates a lot, which is what I'm trying to parody, rather than pick on Dean himself. Got nothing against they guy. In fact, I saw him dismantle Hannity on Fox News once, and it was glorious.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 03:23 AM
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37. wish I could have seen that
I hate Sean fucking Hannity.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 03:26 AM
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38. I think it's a video clip
On the website for that movie "Outfoxed." That was where I saw it. Try that and see if you can find it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 03:33 AM
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39. I have outfoxed so that cant be it
oh you meant on the website, yeah I will sometime. Hannity is a fuckin loser.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 04:04 AM
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40. Good on you, hon.
What is a left-wing freeper? Sounds like a contradiction in terms.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 04:15 AM
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41. A lefty freeper?
Edited on Sat Jan-15-05 04:16 AM by WildEyedLiberal
That's my little nickname for the rabidly dogmatic, hateful, narrow minded "liberals" found at DU and elsewhere. These people are characterized by vicious, cruel ad hominem attacks against people such as John Kerry for reasons that rarely make any sort of rational sense; a denial of reality on par with that of freepers; hypocrisy (for instance, claiming to hate ALL moderate Dems, while still supporting Dean, or Gore); and an all-consuming, irrational hatred of the DNC, DLC, Kerry, Clinton (sometimes), Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi... just about any Dem other than Kucinich, Conyers, Dean, or Boxer (and SHE was on their shit list before 1/6 for probably some stupid nonreason).

They are just as wingnutty and irrational as freepers, hence "lefty freepers." Unfortunately, they tend to be rabid Deaniacs, which isn't really fair to Dean, since I know they don't represent his politics at all (another example of their hypocrisy is their crucifixion of Kerry's supposed "moderate" politics, while ignoring Dean's more centrist stances). I'm sure most of them love Ralph Nader, who IS a selfish, sellout pig, because they are obsessed with being "anti-establishment" and "revolutionary" for its own sake. They also seem to have a bizarre fixation on martyrdom, hence their hue and cry over Kerry not destroying his political career in a futile Last Stand in Ohio.

I really can't stand them at all. Again, I totally don't include Dean or his rational supporters in this group, but if you cruise around GD for a bit, I'm sure you can tell exactly the type to which I refer.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 10:05 PM
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43. I am a Deaniac, a Kucitizen, but not a left-wing freeper
because I love Dean, but also love Kerry. If you have read one of my previous posts, you'll see I love Dean because I am a religious bisexual woman who is very concerned with GLBT Rights. I love politicians like Kerry and Dean who believe that God makes people gay and therefore gay people must be given rights.
Lefty freepers do not help gay rights. Green candidates and people like Nader can preach all they want about gay rights, but people like Dean and Kerry have got words AND ACTION.
I HATE the Kerry vs. Dean debates because the two are very similar and Dean campaigned very well for Kerry. Dean said that there was little difference between him and Kerry, only that he emphasized differences during the primaries.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-15-05 01:22 PM
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42. hillarious, I love it.
But I sense you are still not as pure as me! It's a good start but you may be an operative...
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