Kerry statement on Iran

[karynnj]

LBN has an article on Kerry's comments in India on Iran:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2036947

[Mass]

1. For those who do not want to suffer thru LBN

Because for some people, being firm with Iran means wanting to start a war.

http://in.today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-01-12T185230Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-231680-2.xml


Kerry says Iran making "dangerous" nuclear choice
Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:57 PM IST171
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HYDERABAD, India (Reuters) - U.S. Senator and former Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry said on Thursday that Iran was making a dangerous choice in pushing ahead with its nuclear ambitions.

"Iran has made a dangerous and silly decision of confronting not just the U.S. government but the entire international community," Kerry told reporters in the southern Indian technology hub of Hyderabad during a visit to India.

Kerry's statement came as officials from Britain, France and Germany plan to meet their counterparts from China, Russia and the United States in London next week to discuss Iran's decision to restart sensitive nuclear work.

Kerry said Iran could be referred to the U.N. Security Council if the crisis continued.

"If all diplomatic channels fail, we have no choice but to take the issue before the international body," Kerry, a strong proponent of nuclear non-proliferation, said.
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[karynnj]

2. Sorry Mass

I hadn't looked at the obvious thread here before seeing the LBN thread which is getting the predictable response - ignoring that Kerry's statement clearly has the diplomatic channels first and the UN second, they have jumped to Kerry backing a Bush attack. (Reading comprehension is not a strong point for some.)

[wisteria]

3. I suppose they think it is OK for Iran -with its dangerous leader-

to continue doing what they are doing. Are they so idiotic they do not see a threat when it is right in front of their face. Notice how they don't acknowledge the threat and offer no solutions of there own. These are crazy people!!!

[karynnj]

4. Idiotic - yes, but more myopic

Several can't see the difference in Kerry's position and Bush's.

[wisteria]

10. Your correct.n/t

[Mass]

5. Seems the Europeans are in the US pocket in this case

including France and Germany.

There is no doubt this is bad bews, but this is not only Bush's fault.

http://smh.com.au/news/world/eu-set-to-call-security-council-into-standoff/2006/01/12/1136956303569.html

EU set to call Security Council into stand-off


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By Louis Charbonneau in Berlin
January 13, 2006

THE foreign ministers of Britain, France and Germany were expected to meet overnight to discuss Iran's nuclear program, with European Union diplomats predicting the trio would call for Tehran to be hauled before the United Nations Security Council.

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If the ministers agree to the Security Council option, this would signify the end of 2½ years of diplomatic efforts by the EU's three biggest nations to persuade the Islamic republic to abandon its uranium enrichment program, which they suspect Iran intends to use to produce fuel for nuclear weapons.

One EU diplomat said the plan for the meeting was "cancellation and referral", meaning ending talks with Iran unless it backed down, and referral to the Security Council, which could consider punitive economic sanctions against Tehran
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EU diplomats said they expected the International Atomic Energy Agency's board of governors to convene next month to discuss referring Iran to the Security Council. They said a majority on the agency's 35-nation board favoured the move.

[jillan]

6. I really have the utmost respect for Sen Kerry ... but

(and I'm posting it here)
http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=347980
Imo, Kerry needs to step back. He may be right, but unfortunately he is not the
Pres. I hope and pray this doesn't backfire on him.

This is just one of many articles that are now posted on this.

[Mass]

7. I disagree.

The senate ratifies treaties, so, as a member of the SFRC, he had the duty to go and learn.

Careful, however, India is presenting that as an totally unqualified support. If you read the Reuters report posted in another thread here, it is an agreement on principle and on condition that India agrees to agreements that would prevent them to use uranium as a military material. Basically, all he said was that it was better to have India in the IAEA than outside.

[jillan]

8. I'm not disagreeing with Kerry at all.

I'm concerned that the discussion that will follow this story - and you know it will - here and in freeperland - that Kerry is getting involved in areas that bsh should, that's all.


You know, and I know, that Kerry is more qualified to handle foreign affairs than this administration. I am just suggesting that we should be ready for some controversy here.

[TayTay]

9. I think he is in India as rep of the Dem side of SFRC

This also sounds like something that the US Govt. wants done. I don't see the conflict. It is within Kerry's job description as SFRC member to go and check this out and to speak about the major issues surrounding this. The Senate is constitutionally charged with negotiating treaties, so, I don't see the problem here.

[ginnyinWI]

11. and the right has nobody near as good!

This country desperately needs diplomats like Kerry--if only he'd have more power to act! But who do we have instead? We have Bolton destroying U.S. creds at the U.N., and Condi and * travelling overseas with very, very few results. It's no wonder the rest of the world hates us.

[politicasista]

12. I think we just don't want all this to backfire on Kerry

Ok. I saw the thread in LBN (unfortunately). Althought I am not familiar with the complexities of this subject. I do share the need for PR improvement because things like these could make people think Kerry is pro-war or wanting an Iran invasion. It is Bush's work period.

Am I wrong?:shrug:

[Mass]

13. No, it is not Bush's job only, thanks god.

It is the work of the SFRC as well. In addition, this statement has nothing a honest and reasonably informed person would consider as pro-war. He is referring to the UN, where China, Russia, and France have a veto and would not vote for an Iran invasion. The EU is pushing for the same thing as Kerry is, as are Russian and China.

[politicasista]

14. Oh ok

What's the deal in LBN? I know it's just bashing for the sake of bashing, but I don't get it. :shrug: