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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:18 PM
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Is there any way to get "Kerry supports free fire zones" out of this
From the Blitzer transcript:

"BLITZER: So you support this strategy that we saw dramatically unfold Friday with this attack against this target along the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan?

KERRY: If we have the proper intelligence, and it has gone through the proper channels, and we have followed our rules of engagement in decision-making with respect to that intelligence, and we have good reason on that intelligence to believe that there are members of al Qaeda or terrorists who are targeting the United States in that target, I absolutely support pulling the trigger, absolutely.

You know, this is not -- you know, this is not something for the faint of heart. We are in a situation where there are a group of jihadists who have no real ideology or goal politically, other than to simply kill us and kill other people, too, for that matter.

Now, does that mean that that's all there is to this effort? Let me be crystal clear. No. It is not going to be won or decided at the end of Predator trigger or a barrel of, you know, a soldier's gun, and I've said that many, many times. But where you have those people, where they are gearing up to engage in their dangerous activities, we have to do what we have to do to protect ourselves."


Somehow, someone on my diary at Kos got "Kerry supports freefire zones in Iraq even though he didn't in Vietnam" out of that.

I don't see it. Do you? I see someone who's saying that if the intelligence indicates that your enemy is somewhere, and you go through the proper rules of engagement, then yes, you take the shot. But, as Kerry says, that's not what the administration did, at all.

How could you get free fire zones out of that? Sheesh!

Meanwhile, for the third or fourth time, I've gotten "Kerry's traveling the ME on our 2004 donations." Makes you wonder if there's a place where these people get their talking points. I mean, the man's on Senate business. How bizarre a comment is that? As if he were on vacation. I'd like to know where they get such things.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:29 PM
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1. I don't trust anyone who attacks Dems using POOR ANALYSIS SKILLS
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 07:29 PM by blm
because they are either unable to comprehend English or they are operating against Dems ala David Horowitz.

And I post exactly that.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:33 PM
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2. The only people
who could get the 'free fire zone' thing from that interview are idiots with their heads up their asses.

And yeah, I'm sure Kerry just been living it up at the Kabul Hilton. :sarcasm:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:54 PM
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5. Ask if they would be willing to take the trip
if someone offered to pay all the costs - flight, lodging, food etc. I mean these are some of the top vacation spots in the world - oh and they need to spend the same amount of time in meetings. (After all Kerry wasn't sight seeing in Jerusalem or swimming in the Mediterrainean off Tel Aviv. He also didn't see the Taj Mahol in India. )

These aren't paid by lobbyists, Pac donations, political contributions (which have lots of rules and the Senator likes to follow the law) - they were government business.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 07:43 PM
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3. Ask them if they
support taking out hostage takers who threaten to kill or start killing the hostages?

Ask them if the bomb is actually being made, would they wait until its complete taken to its destined location and the timer set before taking action?

I think bombing all over the place is crazy and McCain's response sucked, but is there any other way to describe what needs to be done?

Then again, seems like they're being intentionally ignorant.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:26 PM
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4. Retaliate by going for their weak spots.
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 09:29 PM by TayTay
These people are leading with a feeble attempt at 'sneaky knowledge.' (They say: I figured something out. If only I could tell my mother that she didn't waste her money sending me to college. She said I couldn't figure my way out of a Wal-Mart, and here I am putting two-and-two together and getting way, way more than four. Friggin genius, that's what I am, a friggin genius.)

While there are inherent risks in confronting idiots in the wild without tranquilizer guns, I would attempt to communicate with them using the following:

Please define a 'free fire zone'? Cuz, I don't think you know what the hell that is. Then please tell me how Sen. Kerry's carefully worded phrase that talks about specific conditions being met before lethal action is taken constituted approval for a 'free fire zone.'

There is a place on the web where all expenditures from the 2004 campaign and the legal defense fund are accounted for. Please go there and prove to me that Sen. Kerry (or anyone else) is 'taking trips on our dime.'

Sen Kerry is Ranking Member on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee sub-committee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs. That gives him standing to go to India and ask about trivial things, like, oh, are you guys interested in maybe talking about nukes and who has them and if nations that have them ought to be in the IAEA and like be inspected and stuff. (Or we could trade curry recipes. Either way, I wouldn't call it a wasted trip.) This trip is on the taxpayer's dime, cuz, it sounds like legitimate Senate business. (Ahm, they did talk about treaties. I believe the Constitution gives the Senate the obligation to approve treaties. But probably not curry recipes. I think JK's on his own on that one.) And, ahm, Iraq had been in the news lately. Sounds like a place that Senators, who do after all have alleged oversight over approriations for military spending and stuff, might want to check out every now and then. (Or they could just believe everything Bush says to them. Ahm, no. I think they should go find out every so often. That's worth the taxpayer's dime.)

Try asking them what the hell they are talking about. Again, I know this is confronting an idiot in the wild, but everything in life is a risk, right? No pain, no gain, my dear.

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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 12:30 AM
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6. it's kind of pathetic, really,
that some of these people know just enough to think they can speak about something, but in reality they are profoundly ignorant. And some are so "liberally pure" that they are unable to grasp realities on the ground, i.e. of warfare.
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