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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:21 AM
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Howard Fineman on Imus
Fineman recently had prostrate surgery. He had the same doctor who operated on Senator Kerry. In talking about it, he singled out Kerry as having "called him from all over the world to give him support and encouragement". He then said that Kerry was a much nicer, more stand up guy "than he or his campaign allowed him to be" (in 2004). Right! 2 hypotheses; the media distorted Kerry's basic personality which he seems to have had all his life or Kerry, while running for office, intentionally chose to hide the niceness and decency that defined him since he was young.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:26 AM
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1. Being nice is not sexy for the media.
They dont report.

During the campaign, there was an editorial in the local pages of the Boston Globe explaining how Kerry took time to go visit a little girl in an hospital, talk to her, but made sure that the media were not there. (the columnist, Brian McGrory, just happened to visit somebody else there). There were plenty of stories like that going around, but the media focused on the GOP talking points.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:44 AM
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3. Does anyone have this Boston Globe editorial?
I would love to read it!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:52 AM
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4. Brian McGrory is a Repub bastard.
He had never voted for Kerry before 2004, when he did, indeed, vote for the hometown guy. Sigh! I am not one of his biggest fans. IMHO, this article is both a slap and a very grudging compliment. (They must have used hot pokers and the threat of no more expense account lunches to get that much out of McGrory.)

DON'T BOX HIM IN
Boston Globe, THIRD, Sec. Metro/Region, p B1 04-06-2004
By BY BRIAN MCGRORY

Sometimes people surprise you. Sometimes they don't fit neatly into the preconceived little boxes that are built for them, the ones marked funny or aloof or generous or irritable.

Take John Kerry. You know the guy. Junior senator. The sense of humor of a dead horse. Never given the respect he feels he deserves. There's not a person who's met him who hasn't been given the famous Washington handshake: Kerry staring over the person's shoulder in search of the most important person in the room.

Still, a couple of years ago, I found myself on a rainy winter afternoon in a shuttered variety store on the outskirts of downtown Lawrence. Inside, the few shelves were stocked with cans of beans and jars of coffee. The longtime storekeeper, Frank Biongorno, was suffering a broken heart. His wife had recently died, and Bongi, as everyone knew him, wouldn't walk downstairs from his apartment to run the store ever again.

As his nephew showed me around, he casually mentioned that John Kerry used to stop by from time to time to have dinner with Bongi and his wife at their kitchen table upstairs.

John Kerry? The man in the blue tailored suits? From Louisburg Square? Are you sure?

Yeah, he nodded, explaining that Kerry had met Bongi during Kerry's first run for the House many years before and that the two had formed a quiet but enduring friendship.

It didn't sound like the Kerry I know, the one with the love of television cameras and the resort houses and the heiress wife. But when I called to ask about Bongi, Kerry quietly said: "He became my father in Lawrence. They were family."

I bring this up in regard to a little noticed but important scene at a Brighton union training center last week. Kerry was leaving one of those overstaged campaign events with unemployed workers - candidate's message, "I care" - when he happened across a father and daughter in the crowd. His eyes lit up. He hugged her, and they talked intensely for many minutes.

The father was Steven A. Tolman, a state senator and part of the Tolman brothers political team, two good guys fighting on behalf of people who never seem to get as much as they need. Back in 1996, Tolman, then a state representative, worked on Kerry's successful re election campaign against Bill Weld. In the last month of the race, Tolman's 11-year-old daughter, Victoria, fell ill. She first lost use of her legs, then lost all motor control. She ended up in Franciscan Children's Hospital for 2 1/2 months.

The morning after he won the biggest campaign of his career, Kerry showed up in Victoria's room by 9:30. He was dressed casually, accompanied only by his wife. They came unannounced, sat on the edge of Victoria's bed for a long while, and then visited with other patients. The only cameras were held by parents.

Last Wednesday, with the national press corps in tow and a crush of locals vying for a moment's time, Kerry spied Tolman's daughter standing among the pols. He had seen her just one other time since that morning in the hospital seven years ago, when she was a frightened girl unable to move. She's now a fully functioning young woman of 18, having waged a long battle against a disease that doctors still don't understand. She attends college at night.

It took Kerry maybe a fraction of a second, but he exclaimed, "Victoria," a question as well as an answer, and leaned in for a hug. They talked of her recovery and her schoolwork. Tolman, fully aware of the good and the bad of John Kerry, was floored. "It was genuine," he said.

There will always be those who say that Kerry likes you best when he needs you most, and to no small extent they may be right. There will be long days, dark days in the campaign when the worst parts of the man overtake the best.

But keep in mind the Victorias and the Bongis who inhabit a quiet corner of his complex life. The tendency will be to squeeze Kerry into an easily defined box. The fact that it's not that simple is both the bane and the virtue of the man.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:57 AM
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5. This is why this story struck me - He is such a bastard that I was
wondering if he was sick.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:18 AM
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7. So I guess I'm not the only "naive" one here to think that the
"real John Kerry" is the one who would go visit a child's sick bed? Why does the press seem to universally look at such incidents with puzzlement and surprise? And this "Washington handshake" business -- how can he turn it on one minute, and then visit voters and do the exact opposite (look the voter in the eye and only concentrate on them)? By the way, the "Washington handshake" is not just in Washington -- it's EVERYWHERE, and I HATE it when people do that to me. Even if a politician was 100% insincere, wouldn't they have the skills to avoid such a rude gesture? I don't know. The snarks are always "in general" based on, in the words of the senator himself, "annonymous Washington chatter". And if he's such a phony, why do his daughters adore him so much? So was he only being nice to you guys in Boston because he "needs you", and as soon as he is stronger, he'll blow you off? Presposterous.

Yet . . . sometimes I like the left handed compliments within a snark Kerry articles. They come across as poignant. But maybe some day, when Kerry retires, everyone can fess up that the "phony Kerry" never really existed, only living in the jaded minds of the journalistic elite.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:23 AM
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8. McGrory is just a jerk.
He came over to the BGlob from the BHerald and he brought his biases with him. Unless a pol is 'born in the neighborhoods' or spends all his time backslapping the press and stroking their egos, that guy is a 'phoney.' I read between the lines on McGrory. Look at what he wrote after the '04 loss and Kerry:

I don't blame John Kerry for this. He can't help his own political limitations. He began this race an aloof Massachusetts liberal, and he ended it largely the same way, maybe because that's what he actually is. Still, he outworked Bush, outdebated him, and over the course of the campaign, outsmarted him. His problems, though, were structural more than strategic. 11/5/04

WTF? First you bad mouth the guy, then admit that he did a hell of a job, then say it doesn't matter as the problems were structural. Sigh! WTF does that really mean?

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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 10:06 AM
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9. McGrory is a jerk. I bought one of his books (political fiction)
before I realized he was THAT McGrory. The book remains unopened.

In one of the biographys about John Kerry there was a description of Senator Kerry is always being there when someone he knows is sick or has a sick relative. I don't remember the details or who was saying this, but the general impression was that Kerry's concern, while genuine, can so intense that it is a little overwhelming. Remember the story about how John Kerry was sick as a young boy at boarding school and how he was very dissapointed when his parents didn't come to visit him? I wonder if this is why he has so much compassion for people who are ill.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 10:59 AM
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10. I agree - in 2004 he had to almost single handedly make people
see who he was. In 2008, he will start from a base of people knowing him. I would love to see the polls for nominee broken by red, blue and purple (like Zogby did last year). I would bet that people would be surprised to see Kerry doing best in the purple. Those states would have more people who really saw the campaign. Many in the blue states (or red) would be more likely to buy the argument that he ran a bad campaign, because seeing the more complex situation - that he had far less suport from the media and parts of the party would be unlikely.

Fineman incidently mentioned that Kerry was out on the campaign trail 2 weeks after surgery - which he said was "insane", but necessary if he wanted to win. He said Kerry's advise was to take it easy.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 11:17 AM
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11. I don't need to be reading this
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 11:19 AM by ProSense
S*** written by an easily defined EFFING A-HOLE.

It took Kerry maybe a fraction of a second, but he exclaimed, "Victoria," a question as well as an answer, and leaned in for a hug. They talked of her recovery and her schoolwork. Tolman, fully aware of the good and the bad of John Kerry, was floored. "It was genuine," he said.


What's the EFFING point of the story? That Kerry is genuine when he expresses concern, but sinister when unEFFINGknown, big friggin gap in story details are left out? That EFFING doesn't even make sense.



Sorry, but whoever this McGrory is, he is a d-bag.


Edited to add: Thanks for posting this TayTay, it's good to know how these jerks operate.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 11:20 AM
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12. Sigh! It's just one of those back-handed compliments
You extract the compliment from the jaws of the beast. It is in there, it's just that this guy is a fake.
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jenndar Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 02:25 PM
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14. Yeah, why
the hell did he have to add that crap about Tolman being "fully aware of the good and the bad of John Kerry"? WTF does that even mean?

What's sad is how BAD some of the writing is in these articles.

Hmph.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:36 AM
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2. Fineman always knew Kerry was a not the stiff media claimed - but Howie
had his orders back then from his corporate masters and wasn't allowed to tell the truth.

Too bad so many Dems and DUers still repeat the lies.

Please post in GD.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:01 AM
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6. I was watching and his comments took me by surprise.
Out of the blue like that. I wondered what prompted the very nice comments. He seemed to go out of his way to make sure Imus and the listeners heard about Senator Kerry's concerns and to mention what a great guy he really is.

I would like to think that Kerry being Kerry and some of us writing our letters in support of the Senator, to Fineman, prompted this.

That said, another part of me is mad that Fineman and the media did such a chop job on Kerry.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 02:20 PM
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13. I wasn't surprised by Kerry's caring
and just being him. But I was surprised to hear it come out of Fineman. To bad that he played the role of pundit and listened to other pundits instead of really trying to get to the real John Kerry. Well he knows now what all of us have known all along, maybe that will be a plus for JK in the future.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 02:38 PM
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15. I have my fingers crossed! n/t
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