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Tue Jan-31-06 01:15 PM
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Kos has a 2008 straw poll up |
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Tue Jan-31-06 01:25 PM
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1. I voted; nothing's changed really |
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In order it's Feingold, Clark, Warner, Edwards, No freaking clue, and then Kerry/Hillary tied with 3%.
Anyway, not scientific.
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Tue Jan-31-06 01:29 PM
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Kerry's still my top pick. If anything, even more so than before.
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Tue Jan-31-06 01:33 PM
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I voted and Feingold is still a head.
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Tue Jan-31-06 01:42 PM
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What, precisely, are the criteria for Feingold? Other than his no vote on the IWR, there isn't a whole lot of difference between him and JK. As a matter of fact, I think he has LESS accomplishments than Kerry.
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Tue Jan-31-06 01:45 PM
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5. And Feingold voted for the Roberts SCOTUS nomination |
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I think he might have voted for Alito as well, if not for the outcry from voters.
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Tue Jan-31-06 01:52 PM
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6. Because by his place in the Judiciary Committee and now |
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in the Intelligence Committee, he is taking the place Kerry once had in asking tough questions and he is using well.
A perfect example is how he is dealing with the Patriot Act (aside from the fact he was the only one who voted against it in 2001). He is making the case extremely well (see his article in the WaPo attacking Gonzales). It is more difficult for Kerry, not being in these committees, to make these cases. His post both in the Commerce Committee and in the SB Committee are both very important,but less sexy particularly for the kos crowd and most of them do not really care what he did 10 to 15 years ago.
There may be discussion on whether Feingold is or not a good candidate for 08, but he is doing great (except for a few votes I would disagree, the same way I disagree with a few of Kerry's votes).
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Tue Jan-31-06 02:07 PM
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7. It would have been more helpful had Feingold addressed the Gonzales lies |
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BEFORE Alito's confirmation. He could have used it for hypotheticals to Alito on unitary executive.
We HAVE known about NSA spying for over a month now - why didn't Feingold make this point about Gonzales when it could have had some bearing in Alito hearings?
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Tue Jan-31-06 02:12 PM
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8. I dont necessarily disagree, I was explaining why they like him |
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(and I do like him too - I just prefer Kerry).
A lot of things would have been helpful. For example, it would have been helpful if the Senate Leadership (of which Feingold is a member) had made a strategy to go after Alito.
I listened to a few speeches this morning. After having listened to those who spoke yesterday before the vote and who, for the most part, tried to relate the issue to real people lives, those who were talking this morning were talking "senatorese" and it was the same thing that happened at the hearings. If you want to make a Constitutional point, senators, tell us how it affects us.
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Tue Jan-31-06 02:16 PM
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9. I know why they like him - he's not a bad guy - he makes just as many |
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Edited on Tue Jan-31-06 02:22 PM by blm
mistakes as anyone else, but usually sticks his neck out far less. He just manages to pick a battle every now and then that hits home with the internet, even though his actual accomplishments aren't exactly the best.
McCain-Feingold helped to take attention away from the Clean Elections bill that was written by Kerry and Wellstone who advocated for public financing of campaigns to get rid of ALL corporate money.
I doubt that many are even aware of that fact. Feingold could have thrown in with them, but instead chose to side with McCain which really did very little to stem any corruption in the campaign process.
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Tue Jan-31-06 03:30 PM
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18. He's got alot of good votes |
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He's a good solid liberal, but also has no anti-gun baggage. Remember, eliminate objections. Alot of rural conservatives don't trust the Patriot Act so it won't hurt him in most western states. He looks nice and trustworthy. He's got alot going for him, I'd be almost as happy with Feingold as Kerry. Except for those two divorces which would be a huge hurdle. Remember, in 2002 alot of people had never heard of John Kerry either.
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Tue Jan-31-06 02:25 PM
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Kerry is practically losing.
Why? Because of the 19 senators that left the party? If they joined in Kerry's fight, do you think he would be winning now?
And why Feingold? I like Russ. But, I love Kerry.
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Tue Jan-31-06 02:29 PM
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12. Kerry has always lost on kos. It is not going to change today. |
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Tue Jan-31-06 03:26 PM
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17. Feingold's the new Dean |
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Without foot in mouth disease. I like Feingold, he's a good #2 for me except his divorce problem. The ones I don't get are Warner and Clark, nice safe centrists which are supposedly what they're all against. :crazy:
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Tue Jan-31-06 02:27 PM
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11. Whatever, Kerry will win! n/t |
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Tue Jan-31-06 02:30 PM
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13. Didn't Feingold make the announcement last year that he is |
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getting a divorce. That makes two. Isn't that going to pretty kill his chances? It makes no difference to me, but in '04 Sen. Kerry got bashed for one divorce with an annulment!
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Tue Jan-31-06 03:12 PM
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16. I voted , but I don't care much about KOS polls. It seems to me |
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the voters go for candidates the voters personally think can win and their choice is not based on any reality. Warner ahead of Kerry? Come on, he is DLC all the way and he has very little experience when you come down to it. Oh, but he is a red stater and a former governor no less- well there you go.
They want someone to stand up and fight? I doubt that will be Warner. He preaches the middle road and lets all get along.
Feingold doesn't surprise me for some reason, I don't think he has much going for him outside of the KOS crowd.And as someone mentioned, he has been divorced twice. This doesn't say much about commitment and "staying the course".
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Tue Jan-31-06 05:22 PM
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19. he's popular in Wisconsin |
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He got something like 70% in his reelection in 2004. He even gets repub voters--but that doesn't necessarily translate to the presidential. What about national security credibility--something that will still be important next time.
I don't have any inside dirt about the divorce--except that I think she had been living here and working at her career, while he was in Washington much of the time. :shrug:
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