Kerry vs. Condi: Live & Uncut

[TheDonkey]

I'm unsure when the hearings will take place. Do they start tuesday and will Kerry be there?

I cannot wait to see him on TV again doing his thing. I really hope he grills her just like he did Bush in the debates. That idiot Condi really gets frazzled under the lights.

[LittleClarkie]

1. Me too, but I don't know how he feels about her compared to say Rummy

I know he said in the Rolling Stone endorsement issue that he didn't know that much about her, but that she seemed smart and he didn't know how much they took her advice in the WH.

Hopefully by now he's done his homework on her, and will grill the stuffin's out of her.

[GRLMGC]

2. I hope so

I know my fabulous senator, Boxer, will be. Are she and Kerry even on the same committee?

[whometense]

3. Senate Foreign Relations Committee

here: http://foreign.senate.gov/

Interesting committee:

Chairman
Richard G. Lugar

Ranking Member
Joseph R. Biden



Chuck Hagel
Nebraska

Lincoln Chafee
Rhode Island

George Allen
Virginia

Norm Coleman
Minnesota

George V. Voinovich
Ohio

Lamar Alexander
Tennessee

John E. Sununu
New Hampshire

Lisa Murkowski
Alaska

Mel Martinez
Florida






Paul S. Sarbanes
Maryland

Christopher J. Dodd
Connecticut

John F. Kerry
Massachusetts

Russell D. Feingold
Wisconsin

Barbara Boxer
California

Bill Nelson
Florida

Barack Obama
Illinois

First hearing tomorrow!

Tuesday, January 18, 2005
Secretary of State Nomination - Part I
Time: 9:00 A.M. - 12:00 P.M.
- Break -
2:00 P.M. - 5:00 P.M.
Place: 216 Hart Senate Office Building

TayTay thinks there will be fireworks. I sure hope so!








 

[GRLMGC]

4. Nice

I know at least one Senator will be giving that evil, incompetent ass a hard time. I hope Kerry jumps in as well.

[ginnyinWI]

5. oooh Biden, Kerry and Feingold!!

break out the popcorn, I'm in!!! :bounce:

[whometense]

And Boxer too!

Should be great. TayTay posted a website that will have it live - ah, google, I love you...

here: http://www.capitolhearings.org/

[LittleClarkie]

6. Oh my!

Sorry. Had to.

Yep, should be good.

[ginnyinWI]

8. LOL

little Dorothy'd better watch out!

[LittleClarkie]

9. I'll get you my pretty, and your little Bush too

Oh. my. god.

I didn't just type that. Did I? And then not delete it?

And me a Christian too. Oh dear.

I'm going to hell now. I just know it.

[JohnKleeb]

7. ooh those are some good dems

Sarbines, Dodd, Kerry, Feingold, Obama, only one i am not a big fan of is Nelson. I hope Chaffee for the republicans asks good questions too, and maybe Hagel because hes very indepedent of the admin on many things.

[Withywindle]

11. That's quite the committee....

...should be very interesting. There's a ton of threads about how Boxer is planning to make it a very bumpy ride, and you know Kerry's got some fresh M-E fuel.

[TayTay]

89. I think there have been fireworks LOL! n/t

[Forever Free]

10. The Dem All-Star Team

Fasten you seatbelts folks and get that popcorn ready, we're gonna have ourselves a grand ol' time!

[angrydemocrat]

12. I'm Wired Today

I can't wait for the show to begin! It will be a great one. Also not only is C-SPAN going to have them live but I found out this morning MSNBC is also covering it. Go Johnny Go!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[TheDonkey]

13. I'm watching it now, Condi looks like she is sleeping

Lugar is rambling on and on as his opening statement. *yawn*

[TayTay]

14. Also can be seen at work at:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=30

[angrydemocrat]

15. I'm Watching

Is Kerry there yet? I just got it turn on and I havn't seen him.

[angrydemocrat]

16. Biden:

Hopefully we don't get Wolfowitz problems.

[angrydemocrat]

17. Biden has lost it

Hell can he say * is his damn president for the next four years but he sure as hell don't speak for me. Kerry is my president so "GET OVER IT" Mr. Biden.

[TayTay]

18. No, this was aimed at Europe

Biden said he went to Europe and the leaders over there need to get over it. This is a valid point. We do have to recognize what actually is, even if painful.

[angrydemocrat]

21. I know I heard

But still he said * is "our" president another four years. Again he isn't mine. Kerry is my president! Even if he does have to be a shadow president right now.

[ginnyinWI]

38. definition of "president"

President: one who presides. That's all. He's not our leader, though, because we're not following!

I'm following John Kerry and the other good Dems in D.C.

[TheDonkey]

19. Yea, so far this has been a horror show

Fienstien is now starting to smear nice words about Condisleeza.

Biden didn't do as well as I would hope, too much emphasis on how great bush is??? I guess getting ready for the '08 run.

[whometense]

22. Well, that was pretty nauseating,

but hopefully nausea first, blood later. :evilgrin:

Feinstein sure had her problems pronouncing Czechoslovakia. :evilgrin: :evilgrin: Karma's a bitch.

[angrydemocrat]

20. I Hope This Gets Better

So far it has sucked! Royally sucked! Hell I want to see some action not this shit. This shit is:boring: so far.

[TayTay]

24. For the love of Gawd

We haven't had any questions yet. Those were just intro statements. What are they supposed to do, open with, "Hi Ms. Rice, you suck!"

Geez, wait until the real questioning starts.

[TheDonkey]

26. That wasn't such a bad intro

;)

But you are right, I forgot that Biden was just giving an intro. Still I was hoping he wouldn't be so sweet to bush when we all know he doesn't deserve it.

[angrydemocrat]

28. Hell They Don't Have To Paint Her Out To Be something Great

Hell that is sickening! There is nothing great about that neocon bitch!

[TayTay]

34. Just wait.

more background info:

http://archive.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/10/04/foggybottom/

[TheDonkey]

23. Condi: "The time for diplomacy... IS NOW"

WTF!?! is she trying to be the terminator. How about the time for diplomacy was 3 years ago you dumbass.

[angrydemocrat]

25. LMAO

I thought the same thing. You beat me to it. This bitch is sickening!

[whometense]

27. I liked her little comment

about voting rights.

Snark. Black solidarity?

[Pirate Smile]

40. Exactly. The rest of the world may think it is a little too little, a

little too late.

[TheDonkey]

29. I haven't seen a cut shot of Kerry yet. I wonder if he is there.

Will he be there in the afternoon or are they just ignoring him.

[angrydemocrat]

30. I havn't either

I keep watching.

[TayTay]

31. He might be scheduled for questions later

Probably just doing other stuff and will show up later, when it's time for his questioning. People go in and out of hearings all the time.

[whometense]

32. Biden said

he wasn't there yet.

[whometense]

33. And, may I add,

what a flaming crock of shit she is spouting.

[TayTay]

35. Still opening statements

"Takes a long time to say anyting in old Entish, we just finished saying Good Morning."

Usless LOTR quote

[ginnyinWI]

41. Love those Ents! n/t

[Pirate Smile]

36. While Lugar and Condi chat, does anyone know why the dow is dropping

like a rock?

I checked - oil at a 7 week high.

[TayTay]

37. CBS Marketwatch say

it's because oil prices are rising.

[Pirate Smile]

39. Thanks TayTay. I'm ready for a Kerry sighting. He will be fashionable

late obviously.

I was surprised to see that he is third or fourth in seniority on this committee. Everybody wants it, I guess.

[TayTay]

42. It goes up and down

in terms of prestige. It's kind of on the down cycle now. (No surprise on that. Look who is in the majority.)

[ginnyinWI]

45. didn't someone say there was another committee thing today,

and JK was on that one too?

[Pirate Smile]

46. Health and Human Services confirmation hearing is on C-span2 but

JK isn't on that Committee, I don't think.

[TayTay]

47. tomorrow

That one is tomorrow afternoon at 2:00 pm

[ginnyinWI]

43. my husband read in the wall street journal

that oil could go up as high as $150 a barrel! We are selling our stock in oil and moving it to domestic coal companies. (finally--I've been after him for a long time to do it!)

[angrydemocrat]

44. I heard that due to the frigid cold weather in the north

that they are expecting high demand on crude oil therefor causing prices to sky rocket.

[Pirate Smile]

48. It is balmy here in Iowa today - 10 degrees - compared to the last week.

Time to break out the shorts and tank tops. Well, maybe not.

[TayTay]

49. Everybody is now there

All members seem to be there now, including JK

[Pirate Smile]

50. Yep, I saw the hair.

[angrydemocrat]

51. He There!!

WOOO HOOOO!! Go Johnny Go!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[whometense]

52. Wonk question here, TayTay:

Is it normal for a potential Sec. of State to answer every question with a statement about what "the president" evidently thinks rather than state ownership with her own thoughts? Or is this just Condi??

[TayTay]

53. Yeah, pretty normal

she speaks for him. (Then presumably brushes and flosses and uses Listerine. Yuck, speaking for *.)

[whometense]

54. I must say,

on a personal - and very bitchy - note, that the very sound of Condi's voice makes me want to pull my hair out, strand by strand..

Oh My GOD. "Did your father know MLK at all?"

[angrydemocrat]

56. You Can Tell When It Is A Repuke

Doing the questioning. Just by the the questions they ask. They give her a bunch of softball questions.

[Pirate Smile]

55. Did everybody see this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x289121

New Kerry PAC to Focus on Voter Disenfranchisement and More

From the tomorrow’s Boston Globe:

Without offering details, Kerry aides said yesterday that the senator plans to file legislation to correct some of the election problems that occurred in 2000 and 2004. Aides also said that a political action committee he started after the election -- a committee that could lay the groundwork for a second presidential campaign in 2008 -- would also be dedicated to preventing disenfranchisement.

After the disputed vote in Florida in 2000, Congress approved the Help America Vote Act of 2002 and authorized $4 billion so that states could create central computerized voter lists and update voting systems by 2006. But many states have not yet made improvements, and two federal agencies are planning inquiries to look into problems that plagued both old and new systems last November.

From JohnKerry.com:

With your support, johnkerry.com is fighting for a national standard for federal elections that has both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable in the United States that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process. I ask you to join me in this cause -- and in working to make our voices heard on the most critical issues of 2005.

I understand the strength, commitment, and passion that are at the core of what we built together -- and I am determined to make our collective energy and organization a force to be reckoned with in the weeks and months ahead. Let's roll up our sleeves and get back to work for our country.

[angrydemocrat]

57. Our Man Looks Like He Is Studying Hard

He looks good but he looks as if he is getting ready. I think he is reading her opening statement.

[Pirate Smile]

58. Well, s@#t! I'm going to have to leave right when JK gets to finally

ask some questions - and Boxer too.

My timing sucks today.

I'll ask for details when I get back.

[whometense]

59. god, she just

sucks. What an obfuscator. Is she capable of answering a straight question?

[whometense]

60. Oh, MAN!!

GO JK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Be still my heart. He's not giving her a pass on anything.

[angrydemocrat]

61. Damn his time up that sucks!

He was getting her ass!! DAMN! GO JK!

[whometense]

62. He'll be back

for many more rounds, I think. He was just getting warmed up.

[ginnyinWI]

63. Lugar gave him extra time

because what he was saying was so cogent. He speaks in plain English with no nonsense--stays right on point. She meanders. Blew a lot of his time by reciting a list of the enemy combatants. She didn't really answer the question: what will she do right after the election to seize the opportunity to make things better and prevent a civil war?

edit: (I hope you all are seeing how very OVER-qualified John Kerry is for his job!!!) :) :)

[TayTay]

64. I Like this:

From DKos:

Kerry finishes, Coleman takes over.
Coleman says: I also am very happy to see Senator Kerry back here today! (Laughter)

Kerry: "I sense a degree of unanimity over there. (Laughter - Kerry waves arm dismissively) Pass a resolution and move on". (More laughter - Kerry wins. Good style)

[angrydemocrat]

65. "Can't Wait"

Till he gets to start again. I knew he would be good. Bitch tried to get around the question by repeating a list of enemey combatants. Hell everyone already knows that shit already the bitch should be made to answer the question instead of being aloud to keep repeating a bunch of shit to waste peoples time.


JK :yourock:

[ginnyinWI]

66. Russ Feingold is up!! n/t

[angrydemocrat]

67. Feingold

Is going to get her ass good too!

[whometense]

68. He did great -

I like the way he followed up on Kerry's question. Nice tag teamwork.

Notice how that slime Coleman read Bremer's comment into the record (re: paying off Iraqi army) to counter JK??? :mad:

[angrydemocrat]

69. Yes

That bastard's time is coming!:mad: Kerry will come back trust me. Him, Feingold, Dodd, and Biden! There ass is mud before this is over. Voinovich is being a dick head making the smart ass remarks to Kerry and Feingold about are they going to make sure they support funding all this that they are demanding or asking to be done:grr: :grr: Hell if those bastards wasn't so worried about giving tax cuts to the rich and all these damn pork barrell give away spending bills for nothing but pure bullshit they would know the damn funding would be there fuckin pricks!:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[angrydemocrat]

70. OH HELL YEAH

GO BOXER GO!!! BOX HER SORRY ASS!! :spank: :spank:

[Pirate Smile]

71. I'm back. Boxer is kicking ass. I saw Kerry's statement - awesome and

heartbreaking at the same time.

[angrydemocrat]

72. LMAO

Boxer: First you contradict the president then you sit here and contradict yourself.

[whometense]

73. Boxer was fantastic.

She really got Condi's back up. How defensive does she sound?

[ginnyinWI]

74. yeah

she's using that little clipped voice that she used in the 9/11 hearings.

Boxer was great! A woman can attack another woman with more impunity.

[whometense]

76. Condi's whiny little

rebuttal was unbelieveable!!

Shorter Condi: Who you callin' a liar, bitch?

[angrydemocrat]

77. Damn

Now we have to wait another hour and half to get more live action:( And it was really getting good LMAO. :evilgrin:

[whometense]

78. The ten-minute limit

really bites. But Condi probably needs a repuke break that often so she doesn't completely lose it.

[angrydemocrat]

79. HAha

You are probably right. If she had to go more than ten minutes with Feingold, Kerry, or Boxer she would absolutely crack! LMAO. She almost did with just ten minutes. Damn I have to say the three of them are doing what I wanted to see done!

[whometense]

81. So far, it's been

a real treat. Except for Biden. What was he thinking? He didn't need to say he was going to vote for her. I don't get the point of that.

But man, Condi - just like at the 9/11 hearings. Lying her ass off, defensive, and wasting time. I guess we have all her tics down cold. I hope they keep her there all night.

[angrydemocrat]

85. I agree about Biden

That was part of my reason for my comments earlier when Tay Tay told me to calm down it was just the opening statements. I didn't like it when he said he was voting for her nor did I like him making the point to say * was "our" president four more years. ARRGH! I know he was directing the comment to Europe but still that statement is false with many Americans including me and was one that was also unnecessary. Then Feingold painting her out to be something great now that was sickening as well! ARRGH! So I was very much glad to see the others. Dodd did OK. But it as Kerry, Feingold, and Boxer that laid it to the sorry bitch!

I'm more than ready for round 2! They won't keep her there to late because they have these hearings again tomorrow at the same time. I wish Biden would grill her sorry ass. I thought for sure he would do more than he has so far. I think she dug a hole for herself before the break when she said the war wasn't over WMD's only. Because we know that so many Senators and Americans would have never supported that war if they wasn't told it was over WMD's and the WMD's was there. So I think we will see real fire works in round 2! Can you imagine Kerry, Finegold, Dodd, Biden and maybe even others faces when that bitch said that?

[TayTay]

86. It might not get good again until around 4:00

There are 2 Dems and 4 Rethugs who have to make opening comments. Or maybe they will go late into the night. This is what they are supposed to be doing, watching the watchers.

[angrydemocrat]

75. This Bitch Is Digging A Hole For Herself!

LMAO!!!

[vinessa4freedom]

80. Hey gang!

My computer is in a different room than the t.v. and I don't have wireless, so I'm popping in for a quick hello. Helluva good thing going on in election results forum about Kerry and Boxer. I don't mean to post and run, but I have a boatload to do in an hour before they start again.

After all of the repuke shmoozing (I was getting sick) it was a beautiful thing to see her being held accountable for lies.

[whometense]

82. Thanks, Vinessa!

I'll go check it out. I was afraid of how many "About time"'s I'd have to deal with. ;-)

[ginnyinWI]

83. I went over to Elections--it's not too bad--but good if we are there too

[TayTay]

84. Morning;s transcript on on...

NYTimes

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/18/politics/18TEXT-RICE.html

Boxer was great as well. Wham.

[whometense]

87. Great!

Thanks for the link - I was looking for a rush transcript.

[angrydemocrat]

88. OMG My Other Dumbass Senator

Hell all you have to do is look and listen to this dumbass(Alexander) and and the other dumbass senator from here(Frist) and that will tell you what the hell this shitty ass state is about.ARRRGH! I can't stand these bastards they are so damn ignorant!:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: Damn I can't wait to move from this fucked up state!

[TheDonkey]

90. Figures, that I look forward to this, and had to miss Kerry b/c of class

I missed almost all of it other than the terribly awkward introductions.

[angrydemocrat]

91. He will be questioning her again today

I think they are trying to get the whole hearing done today. I think the best is yet to come if the repukes would shut the hell up with the dumbass mushy shit ARRRHG!

[TheDonkey]

92. WOW anyone watching the senator of Maryland slapping Condi

attacking her for the 9/11 testimony, attacking her for not meeting with Democrats, even attacking her for the ignorance of not being worried about a weak economy.

She's definetly getting frazzled like the 9/11 testimony.

[TheDonkey]

93. Condi evokes Kerry's name because she's being terrorized by Dodd

he is just ripping her to shreds. And she brings up how she supports AIDS programs like Kerry, wtf.

He isn't taking any crap from her.

[TheDonkey]

94. KERRY IS BACK

[WildEyedLiberal]

95. Hahahaha....

The title of this thread sounds like a porno.

Sorry, Donkey, I just couldn't resist.

:evilgrin:

[TheDonkey]

96. I was hoping for campy but...

it does seem a little kinky (too bad the ision of condi & porn makes me sick).

:P

[TayTay]

97. Eeoooowwey!

Yeah, bad image.

In fact porn is what you call the * foreign policy.