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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:04 PM
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John Kerry is "a damn Alpha Male" - Dick Cheney is a Chicken Hawk
Edited on Tue Feb-14-06 11:24 PM by kerrygoddess
Media Matters Exposes CNN’s Morton on Biased Comments about Cheney and Kerry Hunting
February 14th, 2006 @ 7:32 pm

Media Matters took on CNN’s Bruce Morton’s report on hunting and politics, that aired during yesterday’s Situation Room. Morton commented that President Bush “likes to hunt quail with family and friends” and Vice President Dick Cheney “loves to hunt,” but — using language that echoed that of Cheney during the 2004 campaign — said Sen. John Kerry “spent time posing with guns” during the 2004 presidential campaign, and that “voters probably saw more of him pursuing exotic sports, windsurfing and so on.”

Morton’s jab echoed language Cheney used during the 2004 campaign to attack Kerry as effete and elitist.

Kerry reportedly has been a hunter since the age of 12.

The kicker for me in the Media Matters expose was the part about Cheney’s hunting habits which are vastly different from those of John Kerry. Cheney evidently hunts for the pure purpose of making the kill, one would have to question just what was done with all those birds shot by Cheney…

Also, as was widely reported in 2003, Cheney and Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) took part in a controlled bird hunt on a Pennsylvania game reserve, in which farm-raised birds were released from nets right in front of the hunters. According to a December 28, 2003, Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch article, Cheney alone shot at least 70 birds, and the entire 10-person hunting party shot 417 birds.

John Kerry on the other hand is an avid environmentalist who as noted above has been hunting since the age of 12. In a May 2003 Washington Post article profiling Kerry as 2004 presidential contender (John Kerry: Hunter, Dreamer, Realist), the WaPo notes, “John Kerry eats dove. Even better, he shoots them. From behind the stalks of a Southern cornfield, he’ll watch them flutter and dart, and fire.”

The Chicken Hawks spent a lot of time portraying Kerry as anti-gun candidate who simply posed with guns, as Media Matters points out, but in fact, as the May 2003 WaPo article notes, Kerry’s friend Ivan Schlager described him best when he said, “He is a damn alpha male.”



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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-14-06 11:27 PM
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1. why the fuck are they attacking Kerry at a time like this ?
Cheney SHOT a person. and they decide to attack and lie about Kerry some more. MOTHERFUCKERS.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:33 AM
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2. I saw it earlier today
It was absolutely stunning. A long deal about all the Presidents and which ones hunted, way back to FDR & Truman, Anyway, Reagan didn't hunt at all, he loved wildlife and even trapped rattlesnakes on his ranch instead of shooting them. Then they go through Bush and Clinton, who didn't actually like hunting but the camraderie. Bla bla, to Kerry, who was just posing with guns. It was absolutely incredible. Actually, Nixon, Reagan and the Bushies don't really hunt. Carter, Clinton and Kerry do. I don't know how they get away with their fantasy world, it's always been nothing but illusion.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:49 AM
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3. Pretty sick stuff
I'm glad I was able to find that old WaPo article with the stuff about him hunting to do a little further debunking.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:48 AM
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8. My favorite Kerry hunting story
Kerry's Christmas Goose Is in the Bag

Sorry, PETA; Sen. John Kerry really does hunt--and not just when the campaign cameras are whirring. Remember that scene in late October of last year's presidential election when Kerry emerged from a muddy Ohio field in a new camo jacket cradling a shotgun but not his dead goose? The one that prompted critics to giggle that the photo op was ginned up to show that the Boston brahmin was a regular guy?
Well, sources tell us that Kerry is an avid bird and deer hunter, and a good shot to boot. The proof: Early last week, he traveled to Nebraska for a waterfowl hunt. The senator and some friends, including old Swift Boat pal Jim Wasser, bagged 10 mallards, some smaller widgeons, and two Canada geese. We hear "J.K." and Wasser met near Decatur, Neb., by the Missouri River, huddled in a bunkhouse, grilled some steaks, popped a few beers, and watched the Colts-Steelers Monday-night football game on a 14-inch TV. They were out by 4:45 a.m. Tuesday. Temperature: 19 degrees. Wind: 30 mph. Kerry, armed with a Benelli shotgun; Wasser, and six others set the decoys on a pond and jumped into two blinds. At sunup, three ducks screamed in and the crew nailed 'em with their 12-gauges. Nearly a dozen more fell by lunchtime, all retrieved by the host's black lab, Bo. "Not bad for a few hours' hunting," said a Kerry buddy, who added that the birds will probably be served for Christmas dinner.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/whispers/articles/051212/12whisplead.htm
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:55 AM
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4. self defense
Got to find someone to compare himself favorably with--so he picks a straw man. Pathetic. It's going to take better than that to get out of this one, I'm afraid.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 04:51 AM
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5. why is it an issue about whether Cheney should discuss this ?
after all the demands that Clinton give details about a blow job and apologize ?

demands that Kerry respond to swift boat liars who had no proof and contradicted everything on official record about his military service ?

Cheney fucking shoots a guy and there is conflicting reports about what happened and people wonder whether he should talk about this ?

i'm just thinking if this was a Dem and how the media reaction would be and how the right wing would react.

remember Gary Condit ? even though he was a conservative Democrat the whore media just referred to him as "dem congressman" and demanded he answer them about something they had no proof of. even though he did talk to the cops.

this is just disgusting. you wonder how much they can defend and when people will "wake up". but i don't think anything will do unless there is some huge event where they are personally affected and they are able to see the connection.

there was Katrina but even then most of the victims being poor minorities never supported the administration in the first place. and we had people putting blame on locals and anyone but Bush.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:34 AM
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6. This is so ridiculous - that anyone should question why
Kerry's name is even being mentioned. When driving I've put on a right wing station because it fascinsted me to see how they are dealing with Cheney's actions.

The facts aren't completely clear on everything, but they are on a very key point - Cheney shot his friend and then the information was withheld. It was amazing to hear the callers determined to hold on to their belief that Cheney was an accomplished hunter. As it's not essential to running the government or being a decent person to be an outstanding outdoorsman, this insistence is weird. (In fact, saying he was not that good and reacted wrong when surprised by someone suddenly came into his path would at least speak of it as an unfortunate accident.

It's almost like they are afraid that Cheney's image is like a house made from playing cards, where moving one will bring the whole thing down. I'm surprised that CNN is still pushing the macho Cheney card -but I had thought the Cheneys wearing parkas to a memorial service would wake up many in our media to what kind of people they were.

It also astonished me how many of the callers brought up John Kerry. One insisted that when Kerry had his photo opt, he had no ammunition in his gun and that the group as a whole "only" shot a few geese. Limbaugh played, as a counter to Cheney shooting a man, Kerry using non-standard English when he purchased a hunting license (with all the appriate stamps, I'm sure or we would have heard about it.)

The election is over a year ago - Kerry lost. My only conclusion is that even among these right wing lunatics, the truth is really known - in sports, war and shooting guns - all things very important to their value system - they are hit in the face with a myth shattering reality - Cheney is a failure and a fraud. To make matters worse, Kerry, a real liberal has genuine, uncontrovertible credentials in all three areas.

So, in addition to clinging to the Cheney myths, they are strangely feeling the need to again make sure people know that Kerry is the phony. Maybe someone should ask Scarborough if he wants to rethink that bizarre question of you want to protect you. The fact that he asked this and assumed Bush/Cheney was the answer played to this myth.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 07:43 AM
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7. The differences between Kerry
Edited on Wed Feb-15-06 07:43 AM by ProSense
and the Vice Prick:

Kerry volunteered to serve his country
The Vice Prick got five deferments to dodge service to his country

Kerry engaged the enemy in combat
The Vice Prick shot a man on a hunting trip

Kerry was wounded in battle
The Vice Prick is a sick evil fu k

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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 10:14 AM
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9. That is a great description of John Kerry: alpha male. He is certainly is
an alpha male when you consider his courage and his leadership. Dick Cheney is a cowardly old bastard who hides behind his office. If a Democrat had shot someone in a hunting accident, we would never hear the end of it.

Let them bring John Kerry into this so a comparison can be made.
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