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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:47 AM
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I'm Derryiac, and I'm OK
(BTW:I don't work, but I sleep all day.)
Who was the genius who came up with Derryiac for a lover of Dean and Kerry? SandandSea where are you?



Quadruple swoon.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:55 AM
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1. Isn't Derry the set of many Stephen King stories?
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 01:05 AM by JohnKleeb
How could you like that town with people liks this guy livign there.
EDITED because Clowns named Pennywise who live in the sewer suck ass.
I know, I am being silly but thats my nature.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:02 AM
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2. KLEEB. I HATE CLOWNS. (Especially that one!)
And Elshiva, you are more than ok!
(We share a b-day!!)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:04 AM
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3. SO DO I
its just I heard Derry and I could not resist. I'll edit it out, youre just lucky, I didnt show a real clown, that goddamn Gacy.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:07 AM
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5. Worst. Clown. Ever.
Pogo sucks.
I am a huge Stephen King fan, though.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:09 AM
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7. Yeah, sorry I did that
Clowns scare me too, especially after seeing IT the movie and reading about John Wayne Gacy.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:03 AM
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22. Eeewww
No thanks. No clowns for me.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:16 AM
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24. I know, I wont do it again
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 04:32 PM
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36. :-)
Ahh, you're ok.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:58 PM
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38. you are too, ya crazy you
:P.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 07:47 AM
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27. Coulrophobia
My daughter was always terrified of clowns. Still is. Not sure what fear of mimes is called, but tht might be even more common.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 04:31 PM
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35. I also HATE mimes.
:burning rage:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:17 AM
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14. Thanks. Man, I hate "It"
My brother read that book when we were going up to Maine when year. Every time I went to the toliet I freaked and had to think about Fat Albert before I could finish.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:21 AM
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17. It scared the crap out of me when I first saw it
Sorry, I could have made a bloody sunday refernece instead. Another thing, anyone ever read Kerry's stances on Northern Ireland, I was impressed.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:32 AM
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21. What are his stances on Northern Ireland?
Being an Irish Catholic, he must have something interesting to say.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:16 AM
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23. Here you are
John Kerry believes the ties between the United States and the island of Ireland are deep and abiding. The Irish contributed to the building of America – both Scots Irish Protestants who arrived on these shores as far back as Colonial times, and the numerous Irish Catholics who arrived in the mid 1800's, fleeing famine. And the United States has played an important role in Ireland's development. The Clinton Administration's historic role in the Northern Ireland peace process, and the role played by American business in the creation of the 'Celtic Tiger', were pivotal contributions in recent history. More than 38 million Americans claim Irish ancestry, and Ireland is an important ally of the United States. As President, John Kerry will work to maintain, and continue to strengthen, this important relationship.

John Kerry will put the Northern Ireland peace process high on America's foreign policy agenda. On this issue, he will continue to follow the path set by Senator Kennedy, President Clinton, and Senator Mitchell. John Kerry was one of the first Members of Congress to sign Senator Kennedy's 1994 letter urging President Clinton to grant Gerry Adams a visa. That initiative led to the IRA cease-fire and subsequent peace process. He supports the full implementation of the historic Good Friday Agreement, and commends the parties in Northern Ireland and the Irish and British Governments for bringing about, with the judicial guidance of Senator Mitchell, this best opportunity for lasting peace and justice in Northern Ireland.

John Kerry believes that President Bush has failed to recognize the importance of building on the work of President Clinton in facilitating the peace process. There was not a U.S. ambassador in Ireland in more than a year. President Bush’s lack of urgency in naming a new Ambassador to Ireland and the absence of presidential involvement in efforts to further the peace process are clear evidence that Ireland is not a high priority for the Bush Administration.

The Good Friday Agreement has produced many positive developments. Sectarian killings have largely come to an end. An Assembly for Northern Ireland has been established, allowing the people to select their own government. Demilitarization has begun. Decommissioning by the IRA has begun. A new police force has started to be developed – a force which hopefully will soon command the support of everyone in Northern Ireland. A North-South Ministerial Council, a British-Irish Council, a Human Rights Commission, and an Equality Commission have been created. While these developments have met with varying degrees of success, there can be no question that these efforts amount to a forward moving path.

While applauding these developments, John Kerry understands that much more remains to be done. As a supporter of the need to hold the recent elections for the Northern Ireland Assembly, he believes that repeatedly suspending democratic institutions is not the way forward for Northern Ireland. He urges all parties involved to work for the earliest resumption of the Assembly. And he believes that the review of the Belfast Agreement must be just that – a review, not a renegotiation. The problem is not the structures of the Agreement itself, but rather the failure of all to fully implement it.

The DUP cannot be permitted to disenfranchise half the population of Northern Ireland by refusing to form a government with Sinn Fein. It must be remembered that 70% of Northern Ireland's citizens voted for pro-Agreement parties. All other aspects of the Agreement should continue to be fully implemented and not put on hold while discussions proceed. Normalization must continue. The human rights agenda must be implemented. It is equally important that the IRA take further substantive measures of decommissioning. The guns are silent which is a positive step, but the guns must be removed forever and an end must come to all paramilitary activity – both Republican and Loyalist.

John Kerry’s Administration will stand ready to assist the British and Irish Governments and all of those who work for peace, justice and democracy in Northern Ireland. And as President, he will stand ready to play whatever constructive role may be of use to the parties, recognizing that most of the hard work remaining to be done, must be carried out by the people of Northern Ireland and the two Governments.

The U.S. relationship with Ireland is important beyond the issue of Northern Ireland. With more than 500 U.S. companies with a presence in Ireland, that country is commercially important. The recent success of indigenous Irish companies has also led to Irish companies creating more than 100,000 jobs in the U.S. and has resulted in Ireland being a large investor here. The many economic benefits to be reaped by a Northern Ireland that is politically stable and seen to be a safe place to live and work, can only increase U.S. business ties to the entire island. John Kerry’s Administration will support these growing business ties, which bring economic benefits to all.

As an English-speaking country with great familial and cultural ties to this country, Ireland serves as an important bridge between the United States and the European Union. John Kerry looks forward to working with the Irish Government in what will be a much-needed effort to repair American ties with Europe, which were greatly damaged in President Bush's handling of the situation in Iraq

Finally, the relatively free flow of citizens, be they immigrants, vacationers, business people, or students, has been of great benefit to both Ireland and the United States. John Kerry supports a proposal that will allow undocumented immigrants to legalize their status if they have been in the United States for a certain amount of time, have been working, and can pass a background check. This makes sense for the economy, provides fairness to people in our communities who have worked hard and paid taxes, and will also allow the United States to strengthen its homeland security by bringing undocumented workers out of the shadows and into the light of greater accountability. John Kerry is also aware of the deportee cases and will pay close attention to how these cases develop over the coming year.
Actually despite his Irish sounding name, Kerry is not Irish, his paternal grandfather was a Czech Jew named Fritz Kohn who changed his named to Fredrick Kerry, Kerry found this out recently actually. I wish he really were Irish but hey he's Czech and I am also Slovak as well as Irish, and Yugoslav too, and German.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:56 PM
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37. Thanks, and I knew that he was Jewish
I just thought he had some Irish mixed in there somewhere, being a Catholic and all. Some of this is a bit above my head, cos I don't know Irish history that well.
BTW: I am Scottish Episcopalian on my mother's side and half-Jewish Latvian on my father's side. Dad talked up JK's Jewish ancestory very well.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:00 AM
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40. What do you practice?
Oh I actually do think he has some Irish, but its small.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:06 AM
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41. I practice both Judaism and Christianity all the holidays.
I have zero Irish blood so JK much more Irish than me.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:11 AM
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42. I think he's only a bit Irish
I can't believe some people gave him shit for "pretending to be Irish", I did not know my grandparents' true ethnicity for a while, I thought they were Czech and Serbian, funny story about that, if I was Serbian American, I would likely be Eastern Orthodox, since my grandma would have likely converted to Eastern Orthodoxy, she was already Greek Catholc which is Eastern Rite Catholic, she's Slovakian, if my grandfather had been a Serb and Eastern Orthodox like Serbs are, I would have been baptized as an Eastern Orthodox. My grandparents urged my non religious parents to baptize me. My dad is German-Irish. I dunno what my Irish nana would have thought though, she was still coherent when I was a baby, so she would have some word. Funny how I didnt know what I really was until recently.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:16 AM
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43. Don't remember him ever pretending to be Irish.
Who ever claimed that?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:19 AM
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44. Right wing gossip writers
He thought he was Irish, can't blame him, Kerry just screams "I am Irish" when you hear that name, you know like County Kerry Ireland. Ann Coulter accused him of this, its such trash.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 12:58 PM
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29. He thought he was part Irish until a few years ago
But then he found out his grandfather was actually a Czech Jew born Fritz Kohn, and his grandmother an Austrian Jew. The grandparents on the maternal side were American Bluebloods (Winthrop and Forbes). Quite a mix!
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:08 AM
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6. No, Kleeb, It's Castlerock, Maine.
My brother read those books and told me all about it.
Derry is a city in Ireland actually also known as Londonderry.
None of this has nothing to do with being a Derryiac and digging all things Kerry and Dean.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:09 AM
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8. I was being silly
I know about Derry, Ireland. Ive seen a movie that takes place there.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 07:51 AM
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28. There is a Derry in NH
as well as a Londonderry. They both went for * in the last election. (Friggin' New Hampshire. Thank Gawd for Nashua and Manchester. We swamped them there.!)

I thinkCastlerock is in King's equivalent of Faulkner's Yoknapatawpha County. He sets a lot of stuff around a fictional Bangor and surrounding towns. King is a good Mainer. Wonderful to the community, especially the hospital there. There is a whole wing named after his wife, Tabitha.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:06 AM
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4. i think Teresa and Judy would really like each other and get along well
Teresa's father was a doctor and she said she admired Judy for that. She said she would have liked to become a doctor also but she didn't.but she is still very much into health and well being things and she was the one who felt Kerry had prostate cancer or something and got him to go check it out.

Teresa often talked about how much she admired professional women like Elizabeth Edwards and Judy Dean and wished to be like them at times.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:10 AM
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9. My sub teacher in poly sci the other day was dissing Teresa
basically for being rich, typical crap.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:14 AM
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11. If you want to dis the rich, dis Dubya.
Momma T is called that cos it's a dimunitive for Mother Teresa. She a little Mother Teresa cos of her philanthropy, her noblesse oblige. She is very generous...
Dubya is a tightwad and that really hurts.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:16 AM
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13. I know
She's a philanthropist, she's a great woman. I don't know what was up the sub's ass that day honest, hell my favorite football team's quarterback donated more to the Tsuami victims than Bush did, and unlike most athletes, he makes less than Bush by far.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:11 AM
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10. Yes, "quadruple swoon"
was because I'm bi and have crushes on Dr. Judy and Momma T as well. Intelligent women are very sexy. I dig Elizabeth Edwards, too, she
's a DUer.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:15 AM
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12. are you just now realizing that you are bi?
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 01:16 AM by Faye
i've never seen someone feel the need to say it so many times in one forum. we know you are.

and you are not alone! i am too (but i do not dig Teresa)! :hi:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:20 AM
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15. Yeah, I'm just realizing it, again...
For longest time I thought I was a lesbian but I got married last September and everything changed.
I'm proud to be bisexual.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:25 AM
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18. it does have a turning point
people trying to figure out exactly what they are. it was especially hard when i was much younger b/c i didn't even know someone COULD be bisexual, i thought there was something wrong with me, seriously. i would be turned on by women, but i still liked men....i thought i was just fucked up.... then i thought i might be gay, but i love men too much....i finally came to realize i simply liked both about 4 or 5 years ago. it's rough sometimes.

i didn't mean that first post in a rude way, just so you know :)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:30 AM
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20. God gives everyone the bisexual capacity,
that's what I believe, the ability to love everyone passionately. A lot of same sex relationships are passionate without the sexual component after all. The whole Kerry/Edwards chemistry is proof of this. Also the straight men who think Dean is spongeworthy.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:02 PM
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30. Theresa might have saved John's life
He had a check-up and everything was fine, but his prostrate blood test was higher than it had been the last time (although still in a normal range). She was alarmed and made him go back for more tests, and then they found the early cancer. If it had gone untreated, he would have had to have radiation treatments, and probably would have had to back out of the presidential race. Or it could have been worse for him than that.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:02 PM
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34. d'oh
prostate, not prostrate! lol, and too late to edit.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:20 AM
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16. Whoa. That's the best picture I've seen of Mama T yet
She's one hot mama in that picture. And Mr. K ain't half bad himself.

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:25 AM
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19. Yep. Doesn't Mr. K look happy and damn proud of
Momma T in that picture. HoHo looks pretty happy with Judy. That's another thing Dean and Kerry have in common. Both very monogamous men who are totally in love with their wives.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:06 PM
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31. Teresa has been so good for John
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 01:07 PM by ginnyinWI
He said in an interview that she calmed him down, something he needed. His PTSD Vietnam nightmares all but stopped after he married her.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 01:40 PM
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32. Awwwwh. That's so sweet.
And I believe that one of the best things he ever did was marry her. Did him a lot of good and settled him down.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:16 AM
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25. I think it was CindyW
Come to think about it. She ought to be in here too.

So hey Cindy, where are ya'!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 03:17 AM
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26. Yeah where is she?
She's great.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 11:58 PM
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39. Hey CindyW, You're a genius
I love Derryiac!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:16 PM
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33. Me too. There is nothing wrong with that and I don't know why some
people seem to think they are mutually exclusive. They are NOT.:)
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