When will it end?

[ProSense]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2741572&mesg_id=2741572

I wish the Bush administration would just go away!


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[wisteria]

1. Me too!

e needs to admit he is a failure and resign. How much more of him and he NEOCON's can this country take?

[TayTay]

2. Did you see Hardball last night?

Dialogue:

MATTHEWS: Thank you very much Tucker Carlson, good color. Let`s bring in now Newsweek`s chief political correspondent and MSNBC political analyst Howard Fineman and Chris Cillizza, a reporter and author of The Fix for the Washington Post.com . Look. let`s talk about the politics of today in the United States capital. You`ve been there many times, I spent years up there. The politics of trying to welcome with warmth and real tribute a leader of a country we`re supporting like mad with all the lives of our people over there, at the same time, getting him to speak the way we speak in this country, pro-Israeli, how do you do this?

HOWARD FINEMAN, NEWSWEEK : Well, it turned out to be impossible. That entire speech today, which everybody stood and applauded at various points, with some exceptions, was significant for what it didn`t say concerning the conflict that Tucker was just reporting on. So the answer to your question is, it was impossible. It was impossible for Maliki to do it, and that is one of the reasons George Bush, in his press availabilities in the last 36 hours, has looked like a defeated man. I have never seen him look like this in all the time I`ve been covering him since when he started running for governor in Texas 10 years ago.

MATTHEWS: Let`s go back to that. Was Karl Rove telling the president you have a real conundrum here. Some of the biggest supporters for the war in Iraq were people who believed it would lead somehow to peace in that region, it would stabilize it. The old argument was, it was said so well, the road to Jerusalem runs through Baghdad. We have to clean up this mess and what he`s done is created this Shia crescent of Baghdad in the middle, with Beirut on the other side and Tehran on the other, challenging Israel now.

CHRIS CILLIZZA, WASHINGTONPOST.COM : I think going back to what Howard said, it was as important for what Maliki didn`t say. I think the other thing that is important is who wasn`t there to hear it. People, Democrats like Chuck Schumer, head of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

MATTHEWS: Why would you expect, a lot of this, I know I`m critical sometimes of this war, because so much it is historically predictable. We knew when we went in to an Arab country they would resist us. This administration didn`t know that. We knew there would be an insurgency, because there always has been in the Arab world against outside invaders. There was. We knew we would have to resort to counter-insurgency measures, which means getting intel out of people, there would have to be some kind of torture. And in this case, we knew that the majority Shia would win the election. We knew that whoever won that election would be a Shia, they would be pro Iranian, and pro Hezbollah. Who didn`t know this was going to happen, the President?

FINEMAN: Well, I think I said on this show, based on some people I know who are in the American military in Iraq, that once they announced that there were going to be elections, the Iranians sent in precinct workers. They literally sent their best precinct workers in to Iraq. So what has happened is George Bush has outmaneuvered on the chess board of diplomacy and the key thing for the American people, and Chris and I were talking about this before the show, is not all this geopolitics. For the American people, it`s the number of troops in Iraq and George Bush having to say that we`re moving more troops into Baghdad was like putting up a white flag, politically.

[karynnj]

3. I am proud that my husband and I wrote a

LTTE to the local Jewish press that saw this possibility better than most of the pundits. (the title was put on by the editor - who converted an email that we sent to him to a LTTE.)

Here is my husband’s and my letter to the Jewish News (a North Jersey Jewish news weekly):

Inspire, don’t inflame

In the Oct7th article, “Party of one issue”, the primary issue of the Jewish Republicans who support President George W. Bush was whether or not the war in Iraq was good for Israel or not. Although this should be a n important concern for Jews, we have other concerns as Americans.

Even as it concerns Israel, how can inflaming the entire Middle East possibly bode well for Israel? Down the road, even if we manage to avoid chaos and civil war, the Iraqis may create an Islamic state, like Iran, that will be more dangerous for Israel, the United States, and the rest of the world. A more judicious, less bull-in-a-china shop policy in regard to Iraq, such as the policy advocated by Senator John Kerry (D-MA), would lead to a safer world.

We strongly believe that the core Jewish value of tikun olam is embraced by many of the positions that Kerry has taken in this presidential campaign.

[ProSense]

4. That's frightening!

To witness everyone coming to the conclusion the president is clueless, is frightening.

Flash presentation of Iraq casualties; soldiers' perspectives

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1749266&mesg_id=1749266

[ginnyinWI]

5. It is scary.

But the Democrats knew this way before two years ago--that's why so many got involved in the Kerry campaign.

It's too bad people like Tucker and Tweety were unwilling to look at reality back then and stop shilling for *. What's wrong with these supposedly informed pundits anyway? We all knew * was a loser from day one. (I did, anyway--in my gut, before any of this happened. I knew he was lying and not up to the office of president during the 2000 campaign!)