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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 06:34 PM
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Question for NV Whino, or anybody else who knows wine
etiquette. Since my experience with wine consists almost entirely of chugging Red Mountain out of a gallon jug back in the day ... is pinot noir served cold or room temperature?
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 06:43 PM
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1. I don't know much about
wine but your question made me go look. Here you go http://www.thewinedoctor.com/advisory/openservetemperature.shtml though if you are really picky you will have to convert the temps. I like that it just gives you an idea of how long in the fridge.



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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 06:50 PM
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2. Thanks, CC...
That looks like I can set the wine out on the deck for a little bit (if the temps hold at around 27 like they are now), and it'll be just fine. I forgot all about looking things up on the internet - duh. Thanks for doing what I should have.

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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 06:55 PM
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3. No problem. I thought it was
an interesting question and didn't want to wait for the answer. I have spent so much time looking for answers for the kitchen that it is second nature now. It has also slowed down the kitchen because I keep finding neat modifications to incorporate into the kitchen.:rofl:


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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 07:04 PM
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4. And for your trouble...
...have a cookie!

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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 07:07 PM
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5. They look good.
Would love one. Thank you. Oh and we are getting so close to being finished with the kitchen that soon I will be able to take a pic of your pic framed on the wall. It is already framed and ready.



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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 10:31 PM
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6. cellar temperature - cool but not cold
Edited on Fri Dec-22-06 10:31 PM by BrightKnight
It is best to drink red wine at cellar temperature (60 degrees).

Winemakers and critics evaluate it at cellar temperature.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-22-06 11:12 PM
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7. Thanks...I think we can arrange that.
No cellar, but a little time outside should do fine.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 01:52 AM
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8. Ideally 55 degrees
which is the ideal cellar temp. Too cold and you kill the flavor. Too warm and... yuk.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:45 AM
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9. As a former and long-time member of Les Amis du Vin and an oenophile, ...
Edited on Sat Dec-23-06 09:47 AM by TahitiNut
... who did the whole gamut from formal wine-tastings to 'baby' Beaujolais to touring the wine regions and cellars of France (as well as Western New York and the Napa and Sonoma Valleys), I can say ....

However it tastes best to you.

Yes, while the vast majority drink reds at room temperature (about 70), whites/sparkling chilled and blush wines cooled, it's highly likely that a majority of such folks do that merely because "it's the way it should be done" rather than choosing to serve their own tastes. Other than the most pretentious wine snobs, I never met a true wine lover who'd deny (or condemn) a person the liberties of accommodating their own tastes.

Wines (reds, whites, blush, and sparkling/champagnes) are best stored at constant cellar temperatures, which is around 55 degrees F since that's the earth's temperature. Many focus too much on the level of the temperature rather than the constancy, where a constant temperature is the more important. Cool is better only because it slows chemical reactions - but that doesn't mean it has to be very cold. There's apparently a balance in the the rates of change as a wine ages that vintners have achieved over the centuries - a balance that seems to be best achieved around 50-55.

That said ...

A carefully-made, vintage (i.e. reputable and expensive) red wine will often taste better when decanted (poured carefully into a decanter to leave the sediment behind) a few hours before drinking and allowed to "breathe" - which oxidizes some of the more tart/sharp substances and allows the more volatile elements to evaporate. I wouldn't think of drinking a 10-20+ year-old estate-bottled Bordeaux without doing this ... because I find it really works to round out the flavor and smooth the oaky taste of many reds.

Wines made from the pinot noir grape are among the most widely available. It's one of the more commonly grown grapes in Burgundy and California (but not New York). (It's the basis of some of my most favorite Burgundy appellations ... particularly Gevrey-Chambertains.) Of the reds, it's often used in lighter, more 'fruity' wines and would be a common choice for me if I were, say, going on a picnic in the Bois du Bologne, even in a vin du table (vin ordinaire). It's also the basis of one my favorite champagne types - a blanc de noirs. It's a good choice with a meal - particularly fowls and "the other white meat." While I personally prefer a cooled Zinfandel with turkey, a pinot noir is often a good choice, too. I know that folks usually say it's good with red meats (beef), but I tended to strongly prefer a Merlot with beef.

There's a LOT of range in the varietal wines made from pinot noir ... so the body, flavor, etc. will vary by winery.


(Gosh! It's been a long time. I stopped drinking about 15 years ago, but I really enjoyed exploring wines.)


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