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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 06:51 PM
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Are we doing a debate thread here in the clubhouse?
If not, I'll join the one in GD:Pee.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:02 PM
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1. Hi!
Don't know, but I'm watching it.

:hi:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:04 PM
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2. Me,too
I'll stay here with you. It's get too crazy on those big threads -- I can't keep up with them and listen at the same time.

:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:04 PM
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3. Is that jacket green?
Or gray?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:05 PM
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5. Green, I think.
With gray undertones.

Hi Patsy! :hi:

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:06 PM
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8. His or hers?
Hers is blue. His is navy or black.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:06 PM
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10. Hers
It looks greenish gray on my TV.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:08 PM
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14. Definitely a light blue here
But I can see where it could look gray.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:04 PM
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4. GRRRRRRRR! It's not playing out here on the west coast until
8:00 pm my time! :grr: :grr: :grr:

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:05 PM
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7. I wish it was on later
because I'm missing Keith, and I'm TiVoing the very embarrassing America's Next Top Model. :blush:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:07 PM
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11. I'm missing Keith, too
I'll watch his post-debate show and flip at commercials.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:06 PM
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9. There's a stream posted in the main thread
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:05 PM
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6. Hi SharonRB, Hi Everyone! I'm watching Keith & recording the debate
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:07 PM
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12. Well, I think this is the Countdown thread now, Sha-Sha
:hi: Keith recorded his show early again tonight, I guess because of the debate.

Unless you want me to start a Countdown show thread and this can be a debate thread.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:08 PM
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15. I think this is a debate thread
Pats and I were here first and are watching the debate.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:07 PM
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13. I'm watching pre-taped Keith.
There's a BerryBush joke in there somewhere.... :evilgrin:

:hi:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:08 PM
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16. Tell ya what...I'll start a Countdown thread
and this can be the debate thread. I'll come back later post-debate. OK?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:09 PM
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18. Works for me
Thanks!
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GigiMommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:10 PM
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20. Meet cha over there!
:hi:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:11 PM
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22. ex-cellent!
:)
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GigiMommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:09 PM
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17. Hi Everybody!
:hi: Watching Keith, reading about the debate. Richard Wolffe on now about Hillary's poll #s.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:09 PM
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19. Hi, Gigi
This is a debate thread -- Berry is starting a Countdown thread.

:hi:
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GigiMommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:11 PM
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21. Hi Sharon!!
:hi: See ya later.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:13 PM
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23. This is too weird ..... Bitter-gate
.... I sent the word "Bitter-gate" to Steph yesterday
... she used it on her show, now Keith is using it,
and it is all over the blogs

Subject: Barack has gone up 2 points since "bitter-gate"
Date: April 15, 2008 2:21:24 PM EDT
To: stephiemiller12@sbcglobal.net
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:13 PM
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24. We're already at level one.
And it's early.

So, Hillary said she's going to do her best to make sure one of them takes the oath of office in January. She just didn't say which one of them. :)

Seriously, maybe GDP will take a page from Hillary's book and work to get the Dem elected, no matter who it is.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:14 PM
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25. At least the two candidates seem to know that's the ultimate goal
Whoever doesn't get the nom (Hillary) needs to make sure their supporters know that.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:14 PM
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26. FINALLY!
I've been waiting for Obama to say the words "wedge issues" in explaining his point.

Oh, Hill. Next you're going to tell me that your father was a mill worker in NC.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:17 PM
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28. LOL
:rofl:

I got a phone call and missed some of that. Now she's not answering George's direct question about whether or not she thinks Obama can win.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:20 PM
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31. I was waiting for that too,
and even hoping he'd mention the GOP tradition of Atwater and Rove.

But he's stepped through the minefield pretty well.

:hi:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:21 PM
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34. Yes
Yes, he did.

And now he's calling her out on harping bittergate.

You tell me: on your TV is Hill's jacket green, gray, or green/gray?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:22 PM
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35. Or blue.
On my teevee it's blue.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:28 PM
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43. Seafoam.
I've got a lousy internet feed from the local affiliate. It's a green-blue for me.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:16 PM
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27. Squeeze Me?
Did Hillary just say she doesn't believe people vote on wedge issues???

:wtf:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:18 PM
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29. Flip flop!
Now she thinks he CAN win.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:20 PM
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32. Si, se puede!
Yeah, Hill launched into her "my grandfather blah, blah, blah, in Scranton, blah, blah, blah.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:21 PM
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33. I heard that part
I missed what he said about wedge issues.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:23 PM
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36. While he was explaining his comments
(again!) he got the words into his usual, but slow and deliberate answer. Since I heard him in Terre Haute, I haven't heard him saying it again until now.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:24 PM
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37. Hung up on wedge issues:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:26 PM
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40. LOL
Poor Milhouse.

Wedge issues? Not if you have enough crackers.

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:32 PM
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For chips:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:19 PM
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30. I got my Obama bumper sticker today
Just in time for my car when I pick it up Saturday. It came really quickly.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:24 PM
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38. It's gonna look great!
Please take a photo and post it?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:25 PM
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39. I will
I'm so excited -- and a little nervous. I saw my first one on the road today other than the ones I've seen at the dealership.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:28 PM
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42. There are a bunch down here
So cute.

Who else is tired of hearing about Rev. Wright and Bittergate?

Can we talk about actual issues? Jeez Louise.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:28 PM
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I second that emotion
These are not real issues -- they're just distractions.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:32 PM
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48. GDP says:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:33 PM
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49. They're right
This is underwhelming so far.

Although now that they're asking about Bosnia maybe we'll get somewhere. Of course it's just another distraction, not an issue other than point out what a liar she is.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:27 PM
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41. Uh oh, Hillary
You chose your family.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:28 PM
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44. Avatars gone
Did she really say that? Oy.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:29 PM
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45. That didn't take long
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 07:30 PM by SharonRB
What level are we at?

Yup -- she said you can choose your pastor, but you can't choose your family. She had a chance to keep her family -- no one forced her.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:30 PM
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46. Level Two
and counting.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:31 PM
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47. I'm sure it will go higher
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:34 PM
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50. Hillary's stuck explaining Bosnia now.
6 in 10 don't believe Hill's trustworthy.

Wow.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:35 PM
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52. That's really bad
How can she be so close or ahead in so many states' polls? :shrug:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:38 PM
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55. Name recognition
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 07:40 PM by Patsy Stone
Reputation

Much easier for John McCain to beat

and...

Don't tell anyone, but he's black.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:39 PM
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57. OMG!
I'm shocked. I had no idea.

:rofl:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:35 PM
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51. Doesn't work HIllary
It wasn't a lack of sleep -- not four times!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:36 PM
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53. The video
is different than what she wrote and what she knows to be true?

Another :wtf: moment.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:37 PM
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54. Good job with this answer, Barack
He's taking the high road and not using the opportunity to badmouth her.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:38 PM
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56. Who the fuck cares if he wears a flag pin or not?
Hillary's not wearing one either. I haven't heard anyone questioning her about it.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:42 PM
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58. Why does Barack Obama
hate America?

This may be the worst "debate" in the history of the world. So far, it's been 42 minutes of "Gotcha!"

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:44 PM
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60. They haven't discussed one real issue yet.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:44 PM
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61. Please see Crispi's thread. LOFL!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:46 PM
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65. LOL
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 07:47 PM by SharonRB
:rofl:

I gave her a rec, too. I'm going to flip to KO during the break.

On edit:

At least I found out in that thread the Tigers are kicking Cleveland's ass -- we'll move into a tie with them if we win. Wow! Can't believe we could win three in a row. We're out of our rut, finally!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:01 PM
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70. It needs one more for the Greatest Page.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:04 PM
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71. LOL
:rofl:
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:51 PM
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88. Oh, great. :-(
Yeah, just what Cleveland needs, its ass kicked again. After all, we're so arrogant, we win all the time... *sigh*

Only one thing sucks as badly as the dashed expectations so far for the Tigers, and that's the dashed expectations for the Indians.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:45 PM
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63. It's all the crappiest issues of the campaign.
Oy.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:43 PM
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59. Oh, yeah, Hillary, so what?
You were on the WalMart board.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:44 PM
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62. LOL
:rofl:

That's the best thing Hillary has said since the campaign started.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:47 PM
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66. What?
What'd she say?

I like how he brought up that Bill pardoned two members of The Weather Underground. LOL!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:48 PM
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67. I missed that
She said she wishes the Republicans would admit how bad the past 8 years have been and just not run anyone.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:45 PM
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64. This just in:
Hillary admits having baggage. :)

Let's spend some national airtime on The Weather Underground.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:53 PM
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68. OMG - a real issue?
We're actually going to talk about Iraq?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 07:54 PM
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69. Almost an hour into it
Blecccch, ABC.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:06 PM
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72. But if you go to my website
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 08:06 PM by Patsy Stone
hillaryclinton.com...

That's two times so far.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:08 PM
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73. That got by me both times
Dave keeps talking to me -- he's got the same syndrome as your hubby. Only talks when I'm watching teevee.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #73
74. I'm all alone
and actually able to concentrate. Does Dave do the walking in front of the TV thing a lot, or is that only my good fortune? :)
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:12 PM
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75. Just your good fortune
He doesn't block the teevee. Just blabs on and on so I can't hear.
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mohinoaklawnillinois Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:18 PM
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76. Hi Shar and Patsy
Is the debate as bad as GD Pee is saying. Every question is for Hilary and Stefie and Charlie are dissing Obama?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:21 PM
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77. Hi, Mo
It's pretty bad, but Obama is getting questions. It took them an hour to start talking about any real issues.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:24 PM
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78. The first hour
was about every distracting issue so far. Wright, Weather Underground, Bittergate, Wright...

:hi:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:40 PM
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79. How in the world could she possibly use shrub to do anything?
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:44 PM
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81. I LOVED Obama's response!
He would be less likely to use the current president. We're so divided that we've stopped listening to each other, and the current president FED that scenario.

Brilliant!
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:43 PM
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80. Ways Obama can use GWB in his administration
or, at least the ways I would have suggested had he not been able to wiggle out of answering that question directly:

"Janitor"

"As a bad example"

"Making license plates, right alongside Cheney, Rove, etc."
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:45 PM
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82. I thought of janitor, too
But I like your third option the best. :rofl:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:45 PM
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83. I once had a teacher who told me "you can learn something from anyone....
...even if the only thing you learn is 'what NOT to do.'"

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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:46 PM
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84. Then we've learned a whole bunch of what not to do
from *.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:50 PM
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86. Too mucking fuch.
I'm hoping the Pope says to him something like "I'm really glad you're so unpopular, because it makes my coming here so much easier."
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:47 PM
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85. Fascinating debate?
Charlie must be too close to it to see how un-fascinating it is.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:52 PM
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89. He finds himself fascinating
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 08:53 PM by Patsy Stone
and it doesn't matter if anyone else agrees.

Did you see the thread from the person who called ABC? The woman who answered the phone said calls were coming in fast.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:54 PM
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93. ROFL
:rolf:

I didn't see it, but that's funny.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:02 PM
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94. Here:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:51 PM
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87. Obama nailed this last question
Gobama!
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:52 PM
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90. Keith's back - LIVE!
:woohoo:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:54 PM
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92. YAY!!!!
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 08:53 PM
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91. I just started a post-debate thread
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 09:04 PM
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95. hi!
I'm reading you guys, but watching 'top chef'
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