KOEB Meeting 4/22/08 Pennsylvania Primary Edition

[Berry Cool]

Keith came on at 6. Join us.

Fasten your seat belts, it's gonna be a bumpy and long night.

[Patsy Stone]

1. Unfortunately, I have to go have dinner

I'm around for another half hour or so, but we're meeting my cousin at 8 p.m.

My prediction: Hillary by 6%. Although I'd love to see Obama win, even if it's by one vote.

And, here's a little thread with a lot of Keith hate to get the evening going: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5619139&mesg_id=5619139

:hi:

[Berry Cool]

2. Too bad you can't stick around.

Oh, I saw that thread earlier today. What a bunch of jackoffs.

[Berry Cool]

3. Oh, and in case anyone wants to play, here's my Drinking Game.

I posted it to GD-Pee this morning, but it sank like a stone.

Take a drink every time:

--Tweety says something stupid, sexist, sexually creepy, or acts like he's a "Pennsylvania expert"
--Keith rolls his eyes at something Tweety says or makes a cautionary remark like "Easy there" or "Down, boy," as if Tweety is a huge uncontrollable drooling sheepdog he's got on a leash
--Tweety interrupts Keith
--Keith has to interrupt Tweety to tell him it's time for a commercial break
--Pat Buchanan breaks the 120,000-decibel barrier
--Rachel Maddow says something that makes Pat look like an idiot
--Tweety tries to make some clever literary or pop-culture reference to show he's just as smart as Keith
--Anyone says "And with X% of the vote counted, it's...TOO CLOSE TO CALL!"
--Any professional spinmeister/supporter from Camp Hillary uses the words "solutions" or "experience"
--Any professional spinmeister/supporter from Camp Obama uses the words "hope" or "change"
--Keith or Rachel say anything that makes the crew laugh
--Tweety looks annoyed at Keith

Add your own here...

[SharonRB]

6. There are going to be alot of drunk people

if anyone plays!

[Berry Cool]

8. Hi Sha-Sha.

:hi: How are you doing this night?

[SharonRB]

I'm nervous as heck.

I want to get this over with already.

[Patsy Stone]

14. Sadly

It won't be me.

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

10. Tweety did one earlier....

talking about how phenominal the race was, how "you can be ahead all along, and suddenly lose it all... there's nothing like it in sports."

Keith softly adds "unless you count the NCAA." :rofl:

[Berry Cool]

24. Oh, SNAP!

:rofl: Keith gets him again!!!!

And how about, if you count the Super Bowl...ask the Patriots!!!!

[WolverineDG]

84. Too close to call

I see lots of drunk people already....

:hi: Berry!

dg

[Patsy Stone]

4. I'm not even watching

I find my blood pressure goes up on election nights. It's better if I just come home and find out the result. But, I'll miss hanging out with you all.

It seems my family only schedules things on important nights in wonk history. I have to go to my Uncle's 80th birthday party in August, and Sharon pointed out it's on the last night of the Democratic Convention. :(

I voted for Tucker in that poll, btw. :)

[Berry Cool]

5. I know what you mean.

And I've had my conflicts too.

Poor Tucker. Nah, on second thought, fuck Tucker (not ME, by any means, but...) It seems like now that he no longer has his own show, you can't turn on MSNBC without seeing Tucker's mug on someone else's show. Feh.

[RevCheesehead]

11. I'd rather see Tucker than Snarly Joe.

He really needs a time-out. He's just ugly lately.

[RevCheesehead]

7. Hi, Berry!

Hi, everyone! :hi:

I have a freshly vacuumed house, and squeaky clean windows! :bounce::bounce:

[Berry Cool]

9. Good for you, Rev!

:hi: Wanna come over to clean mine? Still looks like a sty!

[RevCheesehead]

12. Nope!

I have two weeks before parsonage inspection, and I have enough trouble finding the floor! Half my living room is full of boxes from Mom & Dad, and I have about a dozen more to move up here this week. Wheeeeeee!!!

[Berry Cool]

15. I'm trying to steel myself for tonight.

Trying to face the facts: She's gonna win, either by a lot or a little.

If a lot, she will be utterly insufferable, and so will the media, as they turn around again and insist she's still well in the game.

If a little, she'll still milk it as if it was the most miraculous and unexpected victory, against the most astounding odds, against the most wicked and soulless enemy, that ever could have been.

I don't see anything else happening.

[RevCheesehead]

17. I'm still hoping for the upset.

I love me an underdog. :)

[SharonRB]

20. Me, too

Gobama!

[RevCheesehead]

59. OK, what'd I miss?

I just finished cleaning the refrigerator.
call it nervous energy. :)

[Patsy Stone]

13. Woo Hoo!

Something I've still yet to do, and for which I envy you for having done.

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

16. Don't be impressed....

I hadn't done it in at least a couple of years. :hide:

[Patsy Stone]

18. ...

Me either. :hide:

[RevCheesehead]

61. I just KNEW I loved you!!!!

:loveya::hug:
Will you call my Trustees Chair and tell her to lay off?

[Berry Cool]

19. Still got me beat.

Oh great, Nora's trying to compare Pa. to Ohio. Lovely.

It's so great to see that 61% of people in my home state have no college degree.

[Berry Cool]

21. Oh great, here's the first assault from Joey Scars.

"Why can't Obama close the deal?? Huh?? Huh?? And what ABOUT Jeremiah Wright??"

[Berry Cool]

23. Joey and Harold Ford are setting the spin very carefully.

As a huge loss for Obama if he loses by even as few as 6 or 7 points, because he spent four times as much money so why couldn't he win? That he will bleed superdelegates if he doesn't win. That he "isn't a regular Joe" like Joe Scarborough presumably is. That he has to get down there with the common people and UNDERSTAND them, because he's just TOO ELITIST.

[RevCheesehead]

62. Oh yeah?

Well, 61% of the people in my state are cows! :P

[SharonRB]

22. My house is clean, too

but I didn't do it. My windows weren't done either. First time in a month it's been done. I had to cancel them two weeks ago.

[Berry Cool]

25. The last thing you should have to worry about right now is a clean house.

You need to take care of yourself.

[SharonRB]

26. It felt good coming home to the house smelling clean, though

It was a mess.

I did walk with my neighbor yesterday and today and was able to walk by myself two or three times last week.

[Berry Cool]

29. Good.

I'm glad. Let someone else clean for you.

[SharonRB]

32. I always do

Twice a month.

[Berry Cool]

43. Good deal.

I used to do that. But I tell myself "Your apartment is so small, you should be ashamed to want it cleaned for you."

[Berry Cool]

27. Oh great, NOW Mayor McCheese is going to say that white women are so in the tank for Hillary

that Obama can't beat it.

Bullshit. Some of us are white, ethnic and make less than $50K a year, but we have MORE than a high school education (because where we come from, under $50K isn't a working-poor income, under $20K is) and we are NOT in the talk for Hillary.

[SharonRB]

30. And some of us are white women over 50 who don't want Hillary to get the nomination

[RevCheesehead]

63. Some day, when I have access to money...

I will pay someone to be my house-husband. :)

[SharonRB]

28. Thank goodness!

Someone with a brain, finally! :loveya: Tom Brokaw

[Berry Cool]

31. Yeah, but now every time I hear him, I think of Jim Ward's impression of him.

And Tweety, why do you THINK Obama is wasting valuable time talking about Jeremiah Wright instead of the issues? Because YOU MEDIA IDIOTS KEEP BRINGING HIM UP!!!!!!!

[Berry Cool]

33. "A characterization of Pennsylvania" coming up next?

I hope this isn't full of cliches and stereotypes.

It's bad enough having my own home state characterized as being full of uneducated rubes who believed whatever crap Hillary told them about NAFTA.

[Berry Cool]

34. Keith is first to say "too close to call"!

Everybody drink!!

[Berry Cool]

41. You know what's dumb? Here I am, eating a Stouffer's vegetable lasagna,

as in NO MEAT, and here's Bella screaming and crying and howling at my feet!

Why? Because SHE WANTS TO LICK THE CONTAINER!!!!

I finally finished it and set the thing down. She's totally happy, lapping contentedly.

Wack job. :-)

[RevCheesehead]

66. Good Bella!

Garfield would be proud of her! :)

[Berry Cool]

86. But it's so annoying.

I can't even eat in peace. I have to listen to howling and meowing all the way.

Next time I should just buy her her own!

It's like I said, there's not even any MEAT in the thing. I can only conclude she loves the creamy white (or, really, yellow) sauce.

[RevCheesehead]

95. Oreo loves alfredo sauce.

Then she usually throws it up later. :eyes:

[Berry Cool]

113. What is it?? A huge black-and-white cat thing???

I guess I can thank God for small favors...this sauce is one thing she KEEPS down.

[RevCheesehead]

Right now, she is rolling around on the floor with a baby carrot.

She loves the smell of fresh produce. She won't eat it, but she rolls in it like it's catnip. :P

[RevCheesehead]

65. I really wish they'd poll the Amish vote.

:yoiks:

[Berry Cool]

88. "That Obama fellow? I can't vote for him."

"I just got a postcard from my neighbor telling me that he's an English."

[SharonRB]

35. I'm shocked!

It's too close to call. Thank goodness they're not calling it for Hills.

[Berry Cool]

46. Yeah, I guess it's a good sign that it's not already looking like a landslide for her.

I just want this damn thing to be OVER.

[SeattleGirl]

47. If Hil wins PA tonight, I don't think it will be by a big margin.

[SeattleGirl]

36. Hi Berry! Howdy everyone!

:hi:

[SharonRB]

38. Hi, SG

:hi:

Come on in, the water's fine.

[SeattleGirl]

44. And I brought my water wings!

[SharonRB]

50. Yay!

You may need them. :rofl:

[SeattleGirl]

51. Indeed!

:rofl:

[Berry Cool]

58. I hope you like swimming through BS

Hope you brought your nose plug!

[SeattleGirl]

71. Yep, and my goggles too!

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

68. Hi, SG!

How you doin' tonight? :hug::loveya:

[WolverineDG]

37. Hi guys!

I'll be in & out tonight. I'm just too emotionally wiped out to participate much.

dg

[SharonRB]

39. Hi, DG

:hi:

[WolverineDG]

45. Hey Sharon!

:hi:

My contact wants to know: what color do you want your dress to be? :rofl:

dg

[SharonRB]

48. What are my choices?

Does it have to be gingham or flowers?

[WolverineDG]

82. Nope, solid colors

mostly pastels, anything but red. :)

dg

[Berry Cool]

91. I could never be FLDS

I look terrible in pastels. They wash me out.

[SharonRB]

92. I don't wear pastels either.

Guess I'll have to pass on the dress.

[ralps]

40. Hi BerryBush, Hi Everyone!

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Berry Cool]

49. Hi Wolfie, ralps and SG!

:hi: That color-changing cat is sorta scary...

[RevCheesehead]

Hi ralps and Crook!

CC just supervised me as I washed windows and cleaned the refrigerator. He's never seen me do this before! :rofl:

[ralps]

85. Hi RevCheesehead, How are you all doing & Hi to Oreo, CC & lil' Keith! Awww

did he want to help? & Have you seen this? http://youtube.com/watch?v=70wuAWxOEZA

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[RevCheesehead]

100. OMG, that is too funny!!

The kitty reminds me of li'l Keith, when he first got here. :rofl:

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

42. Howdy everyone...

:hi:

My God, Tom Brokaw just brought up Jesse Unruh from CA. I remember seeing him in 1968 at the convention. I remember everyone thought he was an up and comer back then. Whatever happened to him.

[Berry Cool]

52. Hi mohino!

:hi: Wow, you're an old-timer. :-) Glad you could join us.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

55. Yep, I'm officially an old bag.

BTW I was 14 years old at the time of the convention in 1968. I turned 15 in October.

[SharonRB]

56. I'm older than you

I was 19 in the summer of '68.

[SeattleGirl]

57. You're an October baby?

So am I!

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

74. Yes SG I am an October baby

and I love opals. Mine's the 20th, when is your b-day?

[SeattleGirl]

79. The 15th.

I love opals too.

[SharonRB]

53. Is it just me, or

does Andrea Mitchell's head look too big for her shoulders? She looks like a caricature drawing.

[SeattleGirl]

54. Yep, her head does look too big for her shoulders.

Maybe it's the way she's sitting. I think she's leaning forward a bit.

[Berry Cool]

60. The weirdest thing to me is, Nora O'Donnell doesn't really look pregnant.

OK, so she's wearing black, but still. And it's not that early, either. I think she's due in July. Or was it June? Or May?

[SeattleGirl]

64. She looked pregnant when they showed the side view of her.

[Berry Cool]

69. A little bump in the profile.

But damn, if I were her they'd be saying "I thought Nora was coming on with statistics for us. Why are we looking at an ad for Sea World?"

[SharonRB]

70. That's when I noticed it.

[SharonRB]

67. I think she definitely looks pregnant

I commented to hubby just a few minutes ago.

[Berry Cool]

75. I'm still saying,

if it were me, you'd think you were looking at Shamu.

Oh hell, even NOT pregnant you'd think you were looking at Shamu!

Don't mind me, I'm in one of my moods!

[RevCheesehead]

76. She looks anorexic to me.

Someone give her a sandwich, please!

[SharonRB]

72. There's some good news

Tigers are beating Texas 7-1 in the 5th.

[SeattleGirl]

73. Yay!!!

:bounce: :bounce:

[Berry Cool]

78. 65-35 too early to call for Hillary

but it's starting to look like a double-digit triple blowout unless things change.

[SeattleGirl]

80. I think I'm going to be sick.

[RevCheesehead]

81. those would be the smaller precincts.

You could pretty much expect they'd go for Hillary. And some of them, because Rush told them to.

[SeattleGirl]

83. I hope that's all it is.

I won't be at all surprised if Clinton wins, but not by this much!

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

87. Yeah, I 'm sure the Philadelphia area hasn't reported in yet.

It seems like Barack is doing especially well in that area.

[Berry Cool]

96. Yeah, supposedly they broke heavily for him.

I just wonder how much that will matter.

Only 1% is still in?

[RevCheesehead]

101. And yet they can call it for her??

:puke: I hope your polling is dead wrong!!

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

77. I' m back. I had to go do the dinner dishes. n/t

[SeattleGirl]

89. Um, Joe? Barack does NOT have the most liberal voting record.

That's just more crap from the Pukes.

They said the same thing about Kerry in '04.

[ralps]

90. Oh Please!! I wish Joe & Pat would just stop the Elite Meme! & Barak isn't the

most liberal senator in the Senate! :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :wtf: :grr:

[SeattleGirl]

94. And of course, Pat had to bring up the freakin' FLAG PIN non-issue again.

:puke:

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

93. Scarborough is nothing but a shill.

I can't stand listening to him. Barack Obama is at the very least a moderate Democrat. Hell, he voted for Condi's nomination.

[Berry Cool]

97. Don't remind me!

One of his huge mistakes!! :scared:

They're already projecting Hillary.

[Berry Cool]

99. OK, now with 3%, it's 55-45.

That's looking more likely.

[SharonRB]

98. Oh, F*&ck

They're calling it for her already? Damn!

[Berry Cool]

102. Yep.

And Tom Brokaw deserves better from me, but his voice is just making it hard for me to take him seriously.

Now all of a sudden the dead Hillary supporter room is coming to life.

[WolverineDG]

105. Well, you could see that one coming down Broadway

with all the doors open....but she went from a 20% lead to 10% lead in under a minute. heh. Anything under 10% = say goodnight, Hillary.

dg

[SharonRB]

109. Down to 8 now

But only 3% are reporting.

Oops -- 6 with 4% reporting.

[SharonRB]

103. Oh, no, you di'n't, Tom

HILLARY DID NOT WIN TEXAS!!! I really thought Tom was better than that.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

107. Sharon, Tom Brokaw drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago. n/t

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

104. What the hell? They're projecting Hillary. Oh shit!!!!

I wanted this primary to be over tonight.

[RevCheesehead]

106. OK, I need to go to the store.

Maybe I'll get some Pepto Dismal while I'm out. :puke:

See y'all later! :hi:

[Berry Cool]

108. 53-47??????

So suddenly???

Boy, that's quick. Much closer now all of a sudden, with only 3% counted.

[Berry Cool]

110. Now 57-43????

This thing is jumping all over the place!!

Talk about a bumpy night!!

[RevCheesehead]

130. Wouldn't you love to see them eat crow?

It ain't over yet. 15%? Bah!

[GigiMommy]

111. Hi Everyone! Just got in from wishing Grandma Happy 101st B-Day!

:hi:

[SeattleGirl]

114. 101?? Wow!

Happy Birthday to your Grandma!

[GigiMommy]

123. Hi SG!!

:hi: Thanks!

[SharonRB]

115. Hi, Gigi

:hi:


That's great! Happy birthday to your grandma. :party:

[GigiMommy]

124. Hi Sharon!!

:hi: Thanks!

[Berry Cool]

129. Belated hi to GGM

:hi: and happy 101st to your grandma! :party:

[GigiMommy]

140. Hi BB!!

:hi: and thank you!

[RevCheesehead]

132. Happy Birthday, Grandma Gigi!!

:party:

[GigiMommy]

141. Hi and Thank You!!!

:hi:

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

112. Well, that's all for me folks. I'm going to watch

"Becoming Jane". It'll be more interesting than watching that woman lording it over everyone. I really, really can't stand her.

[Berry Cool]

116. Now we're back to 53-47.

I'm dizzy already.

[Berry Cool]

117. And old Puke-Cannon just repeated the lie that Obama lost Texas.

*sigh*

[GigiMommy]

118. Did I miss something? Hillary won??? with only 5% IN!!!!

:grr:

[Berry Cool]

119. Keith: "We interrupt the Hillary Clinton telethon..."

:rofl: Love you, Keith.

Does anyone remember when the Dems had a national telethon in the '70s? I remember my mom had it on, even though she was a registered Republican. (She voted for people, not parties.)

[Berry Cool]

120. Mayor McCheese has looked desperate and sweaty all night.

Beads of sweat all over his face, his hair looks almost as bad as Howard Wolfson's.

[Berry Cool]

121. I have to mute McAuliffe

and the Hillary party. Yeesh.

[SeattleGirl]

122. I flipped the channel over to something else.

Can't STAND listening to McAuliffe!

[Berry Cool]

125. Joe Scarborough is worse.

Screaming about how Obama outspends Hillary FOUR TO ONE AND HE STILL CAN'T WIN!!!!!

He and Harold Ford are saying she should challenge him to A DEBATE A WEEK!!!!!

Oh man.... :banghead:

[SharonRB]

126. Not if they're like that last farce

[Berry Cool]

131. Let's see: next week the subject will be flag pins,

the week after that, Jeremiah Wright, the week after that, William Ayers, and then the topic will be "Obama and Osama...Hmmm...Are They Brothers???"

[GigiMommy]

134. You realize...

none of those things (Flag pins, Rev. Wright, etc.) ARE ISSUES!!!!!!!!!! They don't touch him on issues. Don't people see that! :grr: I'm DONE with Hillary.

[Berry Cool]

128. At least Ford is saying he can put it away by winning NC and Indiana.

But Joey Scars is making it sound like his money advantage makes no difference because he can't win.

I don't see HOW they can say this is an advantage for the Dems for this to go on. HOW CAN THEY SAY THAT?????? ALL IT MEANS IS MORE WEEKS OF COASTING FOR TEFLON JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!

LOL, Keith just called it "Spinsylvania." :rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

133. His face is as orange as a good Cheddar.

But no, I don't want to eat him. :puke:

[GigiMommy]

127. And where is Huckabee NOW!

Something STINKS about this.

[Berry Cool]

136. There's just something wrong with this country if he gets all this way

and then loses this. Now.

[RevCheesehead]

135. Is everybody there brain dead??? (except Keith and Rachel)

Wasn't Hillary ahead by like 20 points a month ago in PA??? :banghead:

[Berry Cool]

137. LOL, Keith is still threatening them with his little bell!

They're all afraid of him dinging the bell on them!!! :rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

138. Here's something to make you smile:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5629272&mesg_id=5629272

[Berry Cool]

139. I do like the sound of that.

I'm starting a new thread as they switch to Brian Williams. Come join me.