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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:49 PM
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Bush support holding between 33-34%. Are there really that many
ignorant people in this country? I know it's only 33% of those polled but I am stilled surprised.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:50 PM
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1. They're the exact opposite of the 33 to 34 who "ask too many questions"
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 12:50 PM by Selatius
Everybody else is in the middle.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:51 PM
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2. I saw a grungy old dude in a shitty mini-van today with a Bush/Cheney
sticker on the back, and the sticker right next to it was "A small government is a beautiful thing"

Stupid fuck
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:55 PM
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6. You should have said "Hey buddy!. Someone put a Bush/Cheney
sticker on your car!"

When he says - "Yeah, I did."

Say - "Oh - oh I 'm sorry. I though someone was fucking with you."
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:52 PM
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3. That's roughly his base and the terminally confused
Figure 20 percent of the population are no-hope fundies and another 10 percent are hatemongering racists who despise everything good about this country (and post at FRetard City, among other sites). Then add two or three percent who are just the type who always support the preznit, no matter what, or don't know exactly who is president these days, maybe Kennedy?

That's his base. It probably can't go much lower unless he actually gets caught on tape raping a little boy, then trying to give him an abortion. That might shave two or three points off, but on the whole, that 33 percent would say it is his RIGHT to rape whoever he wants because he's George W. Bush by damn.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:54 PM
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4. I think honestly its about 27% of the population, coincidentally, that
about fits the number of KKK members (joke).

but seriously, most of those polls are overweighted in favor of repubs, and they all have margins of error. To my mind, 27% seems to be about the right number for the diehard core that will support him even if he eats children dipped in chocolate on live tv.

that's just my opinion, I have nothing to back it up.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:54 PM
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5. Watch a Leno "stupid people in Hollywood" segment some night
Yes, he edits out anyone with a brain, but the dummies who get on the show are depressingly real, people who will recognize a name and say they approve because it's how they pat themselves on the back for recognizing the name.

There are people who will vote for the incumbent because they recognize the name and really don't know the other fellow's name. Or they vote for the incumbent because he looks a little different on the ballot and they're stupid enough to think they're doing as they're told and they'll get a gold star and go to heaven for it.

People who still support Idiot are no longer the merely overworked and disinformed. They are now reduced to the corrupt, the insane, and the stupid. There is nobody else left.
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:56 PM
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7. To see the light now...
...would be to see the damage the Bush idiot base has done to this country. They will never be proven wrong, even if means driving this country right off a cliff.


AValdoux
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:03 PM
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8. Yes, there are...



According to a 2005 Gallup poll, 24% of Americans believe that alien beings have visited our planet. This is down from 33% in 2001.
http://skepdic.com/aliens.html


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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:36 PM
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10. Hmmm...That Alien stat makes me think...
Bush's approval rating in 2001 was much higher than it is now. Maybe people have just gotten smarter since 2001.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 03:06 PM
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15. No, all the stupid people were just abducted by aliens
They're all on Planet Xenu, in frozen stasis pods around a volcano.
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:33 PM
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9. Well, not quite ALL of them are ignorant
There are perhaps 5% who are actually benefiting ($$$) from Bush*Co policies, and don't give a shit about the other 95%.

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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:40 PM
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11. it's not "holding"

After you account for transitory and emotional stuff- bias, bounces, distractions, and disappointments- the fundamental or baseline trend I find in Bush's job approval rating is a solid loss of approval of 1% of the electorate each month of being in power. And Bush's JAR is essentially a rating of the national Republican Party in its present form- the pollsters say people don't distinguish between the two.

In the "Top Ten Conservative Idiots" thing that EarlG put up today, he has a long list of how Republicans constantly assert that Bush's ratings fall has "bottomed out"...and the numbers just continue to tick down

I think the 1% per month trend is one of disillusionment. Or, in translation: yes, people were/are that stupid and ignorant. 2005 was the beginning, and right now is the thick of a period of enormous and widespread Republican bleeding off of delusion. That makes for this wierd, insecure, whiny, anxious, evasive, helpless, lashing out, pained national atmosphere at the moment. It tells you how much internalized stupidity, ignorance, delusion, and desire for things incompatible with reality these people had pent up. But it's so much that the 1% emergence rate from it remains.

About 34% JAR is where Bush is now. Around the 31% or 32% mark is where the Republican moderate wing and the GOP classical Right wing are joined, and when Bush JAR falls under that 32% their Party's coalition starts to break up- which is a fatal wound.

Did I mention that my model predicts a 27%-28% Bush JAR on Election Day, and that the 31/32% line gets reached and crossed during July....
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:41 PM
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12. The truly frightening number is the 70%+- of Pukes that approve.
Seventy percent of Republicans are demonstrably insane.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:53 PM
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13. Even more frightening...
the Democrats that approve, last poll I saw was something like 16%, that could have changed, but still...

:wtf:
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:55 PM
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14. Well, Toby Keith and Joe Leiberman are Democrats....
So I wouldn't take that too much to heart.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 03:09 PM
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16. You mean the 16% of respondents that tell pollsters they're Democrats? n/t
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 03:10 PM by IanDB1
"Y'all are doing a poll? Yeah, I love the prezadint. Yeah, I approve of his job. My party affiliation? I'm a Repub-- Democrat-- I'm a Democrat. Yeah... Gawd Bless 'Merika!"

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 04:11 PM
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18. Yeah, I do that too..
depending on who is doing the polling, I give them a fake answer to fuck up their poll...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 04:12 PM
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19. It explains the 22% of Bush voters who said they're gay n/t
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 03:29 PM
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17. 32% today in CNN/Gallup. "NEW ALL TIME LOW FOR BUSH IN ANY POLL" nt.
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