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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:01 PM
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I can't believe that Alito is a member of my generation.
Him or his wife. This guy is seven months older than I am, graduated HS in 1968. Jeebus, didn't he ever listen to the Beatles, go to a Doors concert or own a roach clip?

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:03 PM
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1. Heh heh - reminds me of *
Remember he said he liked the Beatles until they "got wierd". Hell, I hated the Beatles until they got wierd, or maybe it was when I got wierd.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:04 PM
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2. he was in ROTC in the 60's
said yesterday he thought Viet Nam war protestors were "spoiled"

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newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:07 PM
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4. Did he serve?
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:11 PM
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7. That should disqualify him immediately. No temperment.
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 05:11 PM by Feeney2
Anyone has still has a stick up their asses after almost 40 years needs to get therapy. I laughed yesterday when he dissed the protestors from the 60's.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:13 PM
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9. yeah Bill Clinton was spoiled by studying at Georgetown and Oxford
:sarcasm:
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MsAnthropy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:07 PM
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3. He was too busy being Eddie Haskell
and kissing up to all the grownups
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:09 PM
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5. I can't believe a lot of your generation...
or my parents (1950's) what happened there?

Alito listened to Pat Boone - you can so tell.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:09 PM
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6. I felt that way about John Roberts, too
but Roberts seems to be a raging hippie next to Alito.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:11 PM
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8. Alito's answers to your questions:
I stopped listening to the Beatles when they said they were more important than Jesus.

The Doors' music was obscene. I watched The Monkees once in a while though. Does that count?

No, but we kept roach motels in the kitchen. Is that what you mean?

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:14 PM
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10. so this guy would be in the mainstream if it was 1954?
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:17 PM
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11. 1954, pre-Brown vs. Board of Education
Exactly right.
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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:18 PM
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12. When I was a teenager in Los Angeles in the late 60's
I thought every kid my age had a ZigZag Man poster on the wall in his bedroom.

Guess not...
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:22 PM
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13. Zig-Zag Man, Owsley...Now you're taking me back
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 05:27 PM by ugarte
Careful, this could degenerate into nostalgia.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:27 PM
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16. Captain Beefheart!
How's that for nostalgia. One weird freak!
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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:29 PM
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17. Ugarte, I'm already past the point of hope and reclaimation
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 05:31 PM by PlanetBev
If I didn't have my memories, including all my 33& 1/3's and my 45's, I'd go nuts.

I don't recognize this country anymore. With the exception of DU'ers and a few others, the pods got most of America awhile back.
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:34 PM
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18. God bless you, sister
I know the feeling. But the pendulum swings.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:26 PM
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14. I ran a political campaign against an absolutely
square short dude like that in 1980 who sang in Gospel Quartets and so forth and had apparently missed the entire era 1956-1979 and popped out cuddly and pre-packaged from 1953 or so to appeal to old Xians. Guy was my age too. Of course I was terribly trounced but so was just about every Democrat that year.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:27 PM
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15. Welcomne to the Intra-generation Gap
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:36 PM
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19. hell i can't believe * is a member of mine!!

but then so is Bill.
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dusmcj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:38 PM
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20. hate to spoil your party
but a fair number of those who did listen to the Beatles, went to Doors concerts, and fired up got a little conservative in their old age. Now, we're all entitled, but we don't get to have it both ways - can't have had a great 60's, and then go vote for Doober, for example.

My own take on it, being a member of the "nuclear warning shot" generation (class of 82) growing up in a college town with a rich history of potsmoking and free concerts is that there was a committed core involved in movement politics in the 60s and 70s who are still and will always be a committed core. And didn't partake of various orgies of gluttony in the 80s and 90s, but instead are still farming organically, heading for Washington when the call goes out, and living simply that others may simply live. They deserve our thanks and respect for being part of a vanguard which did the work, at a young age and in the face of disgusting opposition, to create fundamental social change and overthrow blatantly corrupt social orders which served a consumptive social hierarchy, from which all other corruption, including governmental, flowed. The personal was and still is political.

Around them was and is a mass penumbra of fellow participants, who maybe didn't do the inner work themselves and mount the barricades in the first wave, but who saw that it was good and were swept along in the current. They're still not hardcore GOPers, but any radicalism they might have felt part of at some point is hard to find, they've had long often difficult lives, and have partaken of the mainstream because it was the most immediate choice. Not social innovators, rather followers of trends which were in some cases unfortunately commodified, but by no means vigorously offensive conservatives of the kind we discuss here.

Beyond them is another group which I characterize as those who enjoyed the 60s for the fucking and the drugs. Antiwar groups were a great place to get laid, and a generally consumerist attitude fairly indiscernable from the parents they proclaimed were square was a hallmark. I ask myself whether these folks morphed 10 years after into the 80s "greed is good" crew, certainly they were often as talented and energetic as their more enlightened age-mates. Now I ask myself whether this particular demographic is the one which emits a self-satisfied complacency of been-there-done-that, still-hipper-than-thou while climbing in and out of the SUV and chatting with friends from the Coast in the wine bar about their latest visit to the wellness retreat.

I feel free to share here because my generation in turn has been characterized by yours, and also your parents', as being all-round soft, and not vigorous enough in our own political radicalism, with the emphasis on vigor as opposed to content. When we in turn confronted a resurgent conservative machine which had refined its techniques (made evident in the attempts at socially engineering us into a "Connected" society under Bush I) and presented us instead of with the choice of being individually being killed in a foreign land for no reason, with the choice of being turned into radioactive waste as the most immediate path to settling the cold war.

We all have our crosses to bear, and living near Woodstock and Rhinebeck in NY, I get to see both the best and the worst of the "60s generation". I wish you all well, and hope that subsequent generations will be able to write as evocatively in the book of human history. But surprise at discontinuities in political orientation seems a little misplaced.
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catmother Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:41 PM
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21. in 1968 i was 26 years old -- divorced and a single mother. i
listened to the beatles, the doors, acid rock. i had peace signs all over my 66 red mustang. i loved the late 60s with all the free love and peace marches.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:43 PM
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22. Not everyone from our generation "got it" in the '60s...or later.
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 05:43 PM by mcscajun
We had rabid Conservatives in my High School in The Bronx, there was a Young Republicans group in the community college I attended in Manhattan, and even in the 90's, I would still run across Republicans who went to Dead shows. They listened to the music...they just didn't "get it". They never got on the bus. They still have sticks up their asses today.

Some of us did "turn" Republican later on...and a great many of us never lost the vision, didn't "turn" anything except Older. I count many of those among my close friends of over 30 years.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 05:46 PM
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23. The guy is a nerd and a misfit who is out of touch with the REAL world....
Is this corrupt corporate benefactor the kind of person you want rendering judicial decisions??? All hail the giant corporations and screw the little guy.
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