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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 04:58 PM
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Tell me I am being paranoid
The night custodian at school told me today that some guys in a white van came on Friday night and installed new phone lines. They came at 4:00, when almost everyone was gone, and worked till 10:00. He said the thing that caught his eye was that they were from some communications company he had never heard of. He wondered why the phone company wasn't installing the lines. We both thought it was odd that they did it at night, when no one was there to watch what they were doing. The workmen usually don't hesitate to interrupt classes to do maintenance. (One year they painted our entire school during testing week. We had to move everything out of our rooms and stay out - with the kids - for two days while they painted. And we were testing!)

We also didn't realize anything was wrong with the phone lines.

So am I being paranoid?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 04:59 PM
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1. Maybe, contact the school board possible? n/t
PB
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:05 PM
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5. Or just the administrative office.
It does sound quite strange...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:12 PM
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10. I could ask my principal
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playkate Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:02 PM
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25. Yep--you could! Great place to start!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:12 PM
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9. No I am not comfortable doing that
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:01 PM
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2. No. I'd be paranoid, too. nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:12 PM
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11. Thanks for understanding
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:03 PM
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3. Does sound a bit odd. Is this a college, or what?
I would call around and see what you can find out about the Co. name and etc.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:13 PM
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12. public elementary school
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playkate Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:04 PM
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28. LOL! What on earth do you think anybody'd want with...
...your phone lines in an elementary school???
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:07 PM
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32. I have no idea
but I don't trust anyone these days.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:04 PM
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4. Outside contractors. Its all the rage. I think you are being paranoid n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:13 PM
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13. I am considering that
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:06 PM
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6. Maybe it was an upgrade. Are you sure it was phone lines?
Here, they've been doing a ton of upgrading work (though mostly putting lines underground). I'd check with the school board, or better yet, if you're friendly with any of the teachers/admin who probably got a notice that this would be going on.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:14 PM
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14. The custodian is sure it was the phone lines
He would know.
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verse18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:08 PM
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7. You're being paranoid!
Somebody had to.....:)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:14 PM
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15. LOL
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:10 PM
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8. Sounds like you've been assimilated
by new cable/telephone lines. But ask your techie person to be sure.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:15 PM
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16. Assimilitated with who? or what?
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:16 PM
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17. You Should Definitely Be Inquisitive.
Is there any way to continue through the chain to get more factual information? It would be interesting to learn the facts of the matter.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:02 PM
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24. I can ask my principal
and I can ask around to see if other schools in the district are having their phone lines updated.
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:16 PM
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18. *hands over a tinfoil hat*
Are you in the IT/Phone department? If not you probably aren't aware of why they did what they do and neither is the custodian. Sometimes I simplify what we are doing to "We're installing new phone lines" to non tech people so I don't spend hours explaining why we had to upgrade to a voice t1 to improve the cost and add caller id to the system.

And when I schedule work to happen, I try to do it after hours; plus our local phone company LOVES contractors. Setting it up on the friday helps prevent downtime during working hours (we'll have 2 days to recover from a bad install).

If you are in the IT department and work directly with the phone contractors then I'd be worried...otherwise be happy that people are doing their job so you aren't interuppted.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:03 PM
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26. Thanks for that info
That makes me feel better. No I am just a teacher, not a tech.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:21 PM
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36. I'm pretty sure the poster is right...
even though it sucks for us contracting installers, we sometimes have to work strange hours; especially in a school. I wouldn't put any of my guys in a school during business hours. I trust my guys but letting them loose in a school full of kids just isn't smart. It's asking for headaches I don't need. If your concerned about it though, find out the name of the company and we may be able to find out who they are. I know many of the distributors throughout the country and usually can find out a lot on just about anyone I want to. I wouldn't be too concerned but hell, in today's world, it's always better to be safe than sorry.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:01 PM
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37. Thanks Mike
I'll see what I can find out.
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gator_in_Ontario Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:16 PM
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19. I know here in Florida, they install lines at night sometimes
to avoid interruption of service and because it is cooler. Doesn't mean you are being paranoid though
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:18 PM
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20. Investigate, but only very carefully.
Find out what's going on, but you might try doing it without asking questions. Or ask questions with a compliment attached to disarm them.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:21 PM
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22. or wear a squirrel costume. nt
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:03 PM
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27. LOL
Sure :rofl:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:05 PM
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29. I second the squirrel costume idea...
but the pictures have to be posted in the lounge. :D
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patriothackd Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:20 PM
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21. Phone people always drive white vans.
So does the cable guy. You don't know where they had to string cable. Would you want a bunch of ankle-biters running around while you are stringing cable?

Surprising about the painting while school is in session though.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:06 PM
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30. Welcome to DU!
Yes, their normal pattern is to interrupt the school day to do maintenance. This year, they turned the water off one day for several hours to fix a plumbing problem - in the middle of the day. When we complain, they tell us they can't afford to pay overtime to have the work down outside the work day.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 05:23 PM
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23. you're surely a target of surveillance, having been to Camp Casey
So you're not paranoid. You may be wrong in this instance, but you're not paranoid.

Let's suppose they want to prove you're using government assets to promote your anti-war agenda.

I can imagine reasons they would want to monitor you at your work station, but I really don't think they'd need to install anything to do so. They can do some remotely.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:09 PM
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33. Well since I use my time at work to do my job,
they surely aren't going to find out that I am promoting any agenda besides education.

And I don't suspect they are after me personally. I just find it odd that they are updating a phone system that is fairly new and they are doing it outside of the normal workday.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:06 PM
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31. Maybe it's part of DHS,
the part that has been in the news recently for trying to seduce underage girls. Maybe they want to snatch a few for political reasons as well as for their own twisted fantasies.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:09 PM
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34. LOL
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 06:14 PM
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35. Yes, you are paranoid
but that doesn't necessarily mean they are not out to get you. Paranoia is a high survival trait in a hostile environment.
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Nicole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:31 PM
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38. Yes
I wouldn't post on DU on the school's computer though, just in case. :rofl:
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:40 PM
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39. I see why you'd be concerned,
but if they wanted to spy, couldn't they just intercept all Internet & phone calls anyway w/the NSA program? Why bother installing new phone lines?
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Freedom_Aflaim Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 10:43 PM
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40. Definitely Suspicious You should consider one of those
gizmos that light up when your line is being tapped.

Im trying to remember what they are called, but I've seen them in the inflight catalog magazines(you know the ones they stick in all the airplane seatbacks)

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