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Mon Apr-24-06 06:51 PM
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Why couldn't people see how all around bad * was before this? |
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Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 06:54 PM by senseandsensibility
As someone who felt an almost physical revulsion against * from the first time I heard him open his mouth back in 2000, I've often wondered this. He is so obviously incompetent, shallow and yes, stupid. He is so clearly a puppet, and an uncaring stooge who has never accomplished anything in his entire, pampered life.
And I'm not just talking about morans, which will always exist, and will always love their dubya. I'm talking about college educated, well spoken individuals. I know some of them who are just coming around NOW. They ever saw any sign of incompetence, dishonesty, immaturity,or stupidity before THIS?
Seriously, how can that possibly be? :shrug:
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:51 PM
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1. Because he's a good Krischun |
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:51 PM
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2. Some proctologists work more slowly than others. |
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:52 PM
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3. G R E E D, I'll get mine by voting puke. |
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:52 PM
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4. Considering how he got into office |
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THE MAJORITY OF THE ELECTORATE DID SEE HOW BAD HE WAS!! Remember, he wasn't elected.. Either time
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:53 PM
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5. I agree - I don't see it either. Especially post 9/11 - |
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people who should have known better were telling me how great his speech was, how I had to stand behind him NOW, etc., etc........then later admitted that I had been right along.
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:53 PM
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:55 PM
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7. If by kool-aid you mean relentless |
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corporate media propaganda, you have a good point.
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:06 PM
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19. That is essentially what the propaganda amounts to - Kool-Aid |
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They keep pumping the sheep full of the stuff, repeat and pump more, repeat again. The morons simply buy it from the FAUX and Crappy News Network. or Pravda 2 and 3
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:55 PM
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8. How did the corporate media SELL HIS image since 1999? |
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They lied for him and kept most of the public protected from knowing about his crimes and failures. Katrina blew back that spin.
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:55 PM
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9. Some just want to like him, believe him. Don't know why. |
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Some did see how bad he was, but didn't want to believe it. First stage is denial.
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:56 PM
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10. Because they manipulated the media |
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and made him seem like a "guy you could have a beer with." At the same time, they got the media to portray Gore as a bore and a liar, and they branded Kerry as aloof and a flip-flopper.
The real key to winning future elections, besides money, is to hire the best PR people around and do this to the opposition.
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:57 PM
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11. He was my Gov, I knew how bad he was. It wouldn't have taken a rocket |
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scientist to know how bad he would be for America. All it would have taken, was to review his record in Texas as Gov, to know what he was about and how he would "lead". Simple stuff.
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:58 PM
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...I TRIED to tell people. I told EVERYONE who would listen and many who wouldn't.
FEW would listen.
Should I change my name to Cassandra?
Oh. NOW some of them believe me.
NOW is how many jobs and how many lives and how many dollars and how many tax cuts for the very rich, and how many ruined treaties, how many ruined economies, how many holes in our constitution, how many extinct species and melted icecaps, and how many ruined diplomatic relationships later?
Arrghggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:58 PM
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13. Two reasons: The GOP (Rove, mainly) and a lapdog media |
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This is why. They consistently played him up as a 'regular guy', plain-spoken, straightforward and honest all all that crap.
Anything that did not agree with this faked-up image was ignored. Instead, we kept hearing about how 'wooden' Gore was, how self-aggrandizing, how 'old-school Dem' he was.
What you need to realize is that this faked-up image continued to be the official message, especially after 9/11.
Also, people don't like feeling fooled or cheated. They want to believe they have good judgment, and for a lot of them, this admission of being wrong is a HUGE and very difficult step to take. In fact, for your average con artist, they depend both on the greed of the mark -- as well as the fact the typical mark won't say anything, because they'll be embarrassed at having been snookered.
Well, now we have a whole bunch people who were fooled. And a lot of 'em are still reluctant to admit it.
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:59 PM
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He got into office and his rating started going down immediately. |
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He got the "No Child Left Behind" and tax cuts passed but that was it. Then there was the MSM recount of the Florida election, which would have made him even more discredited. Then lucky * - 9-11 happened. People rallied around him because they were scared and upset. He did put on a good show that week. Crying at the right time on national TV. Going in there with the fire fighters for those wonderful news poses.
I didn't like * from the 2000 SC primary. He proved what a great liar he was then. It took me a week after 9-11 to wonder what was going on since I had caught the gov't in two lies by the end of the first week. It's been downhill ever since.
People think that doing something is better than nothing and if that is one thing * does is something. Makes him look like a leader. The fact that he leading us into banruptcy and endless war doesn't seem to matter. Maybe when the bills hit.
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:59 PM
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They only look at one topic, and judge everything on that. They also only look at statements, rather than behaviors.
Take, for example, his claims of being a Christian. For some people, that's all he had to say. Their assumptions about Christians answer all their questions, and from that point on he can do no wrong. (Or right, depending on your view of Christians.)
If they were to look deeper, they'd see a lot of behaviors that are, to my mind at least, unChristian. Texas's high execution rate while he was Governor, for example. Or his mocking of one inmate slated for imminent execution.
When one judges him by multiple aspects, or even deeply on a single aspect, one finds it difficult to support him.
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:59 PM
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Rush Limbaugh and his satanic spawn. |
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I used to work with college-educated guys who delighted in that sick sumbitch. They were somehow comfortable in their sycophancy.
But then again . . . I too have a very visceral reaction to Dubya and Dickweed. The hair stands up on the back of my neck when I even see the veep. I cannot explain why everyone doesn't react like that to pure evil . . .
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:04 PM
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Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 07:05 PM by senseandsensibility
I was so moved by my disdain for * that back during the first election, I got my apathetic butt off the couch and went around nailing Gore signs all over my neighborhood and town. I live in California, for God's sake, and there was no way he was going to carry our state. But I was so politically naive then, that I though he might, and I couldn't stand it. This was pre Iraq, pre everything. It was so obvious.
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Mon Apr-24-06 06:59 PM
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15. Bush set himself up, or Rove did -- whoever -- as a cowboy, a |
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straight-shootin' plain-spoken brush-clearin' fella.
The message was: I'm like you. Gore is a smarty-pants intellectual environmentalist who lives in an ivory tower. Kerry is a Massachusetts liberal who's too smart to understand us plain folks.
Bush/Rove played to the deep anti-intellectual vein in U.S. life and made it work, at least close enough so they could steal two consecutive elections.
But now it's April of 2006 and the brush-clearin' cowboy's done fell in the ditch.
This presidency is over with.
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:03 PM
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:07 PM
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20. It is so sad that so many people "think" this way. |
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It stems from their own insecurities, but in the meantime,they are causing havoc for everyone with their inane support of chimp!
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:05 PM
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18. When I heard that he was going to execute Karla Faye Tucker |
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way back when, and that he made fun of her pleas for mercy, I knew the guy was a total jerk and that his claims to be religious were a total sham. That was the first time I paid any attention to him. I couldn't believe that he got nominated for president much less all the rest. It was totally obvious to me from the first time I ever heard of him that he was bad news, and honestly, I have trouble seeing how anyone could not figure this out really fast.
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:08 PM
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21. only 1/2 the people vote, and outta that |
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less then 1/2 voted for the il dunce. .btw, read 'the bush dyslexion' by mark crispin miller for an indepth look at exactly what you're asking.....it was published in 2001, so it's amazing to read something written years ago what today is just becoming clear (to the majority) i think that we 'freedom loving' citizens of these 'democracies' are alot more acquiescent towards injustice and exploitation of our own selves then our rulers ever admit-they like it that way, and invest vast sums of our money fine tuning what causes the helpless feelings we all share
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:14 PM
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22. Many, many people did see before now. |
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:28 PM
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23. Good question--one I have pondered since the 2000 selection |
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But here is what concerns me every bit as much. Is his sudden unpopularity because people are beginning to see him for wha he truly is--evil; OR because gas is $3.00 a gallon and too amy jobs have left the country?
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:46 PM
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25. The fact that it's gas prices that are doing it is |
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astounding. But it explains why all the corporate news readers are twisting themselves into every contortion imaginable to convince the sheeple that it's not *'s fault.:mad:
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:33 PM
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24. I did-many did, even if you knew some bush family history |
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you should have been freaking that W was "appointed" by the highest law in the land-no less!! (that should have been the 2nd clue!!)
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Mon Apr-24-06 07:53 PM
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26. Because we have always believed and trusted our leaders |
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and 9/11 was an event that caused all Americans to rally around their leader when they felt they had been attacked by a common enemy. That was a visceral response. It really took an anti-genius to take all that sincere goodwill, both nationally and internally,and vaporize it for some idiotic, ill-conceived, loony ,right-wing war-mongering ideology dreamed up by a bunch of loser nerds who played way too much RISK and Stratego and then made the rest of the world some of their playing pieces.
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