If Dems win both the house & Senate, does it matter if Bush is impeached?

[Imagevision]

If so why? (please don't bother with he's this or that)...some real content please.

[rodeodance]

1. Yes, Bush needs to be held accountable-simple as that.

[roguevalley]

15. if you don't want a nation of two sets of laws, yes.

[peacebird]

2. Yes - because America is a nation ruled by LAW

We need to drive home the fact that everyone is bound by LAW. We do not have an imperial leader.

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. It would be nice to have him squirm and suffer at their hands for a while.

And then impeach him.

[BrklynLiberal]

4. Especially if we win House and Senate.

Impeach Bush and Cheney, then the Dem House Majority Leader becomes President!!!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[yourout]

5. yes, yes, yes,.......a thousand times......yes.

A crime left willfully unpunished is another crime.

[C_U_L8R]

6. Justice

No crime goes unpunished

[Jack Rabbit]

7. Of course it does

It wouldn't if Bush were just another conservative president and hadn't done anything more seriously wrong than Jerry Ford, but that's not what's going on here.

As long as Bush is sitting in the Oval Office, he will be thinking that he is entitled to absolute power that the Constitution not only not give but very explicitly does not give him. He will continue to think he can wire tap without a warrant, detain American citizens without charge and, worst of all, lie to start an unnecessary war of aggression. He'll still have his finger on the nuclear button and still think it his right to start a war against any state at any time for any reason, or no reason at all. He may still want to nuke Iran, although Iran is at worst a long term threat and no threat at all right now.

Bush and Cheney are both dangerous and their record is criminal. They should both be impeached and removed.

[NanceGreggs]

8. Yes, I think it's still important ... that's just MHO.

As a nation, I think it is important to demonstrate not only to the world, but to our own citizenry, that the crimes of this Administration do not go unpunished.

This (so-called) president and his administration have caused irreparable harm to our country, domestically and internationally. It is not enough to take away Bush's power or influence - he must be made to face the consequences of his actions. Prison would be preferable, but I'm willing to settle for the utter disgrace of impeachment and removal from office.

"It is enough that justice be done; it must be seen to have been done."

[emanymton]

9. YES! Bush Lied. People Died:

It is this simple. It is the law.

The constitution is at risk directly through the administration's action. They have cynically gamed the system exposing the fault lines in the USA democratic republic. Should shrub get away with his brazen acts of comtempt toward the law, the constitution is finished.

[emanymton]

34. Continued

This issue is beyond politics. The Constitution, the 'rule of law' and the concept of "We The People" democracy have been challenged by this whole administration's grab for power. There is no turning back.

The people have to stand and decide the government 'we' are. shrub and his whole administration has to be impeached. The system has to be cleaned.

[cali]

10. I don't know

Sure I'd like to see him impeached and convicted, but it's got to be an airtight case. The prosecution has got to have all its ducks in a row. I firmly believe he's committed impeachable offenses, but I don't want to see a meaningless exercise. A botched impeachment would be a disaster. bush's approval ratings would go up, dems would go down and we'd be imperiling dem success in 2008.

[AndyTiedye]

11. YES! There is a Cell in the Hague Waiting For Him

[KingFlorez]

12. His power will be checked a bit, so it won't seem as important then

He's still broken the law so he should be impeached though

[ray of light]

13. yes, because no man is above the law, not even the president

and this Republican party should have been holding him accountable instead of letting him get away with these crimes.

I don't believe an impeachment will harm the country as much as the Clinton impeachment did. 70% of the people recognise that Bush has committed serious crimes. When Clinton was impeached by the house, 70% of the people still supported him. They understood it was political grandstanding and that censure and other options were more viable. I also think the billions of dollars spent on monica-gate was recognised to be equivalent to throwing money down a drain.

[mwooldri]

14. Absolutely. As long as it's Bush _AND_ Cheney.

As other people have said if the Democratic Party win both the House and the Senate, and if Bush & Cheney are outed then the next in line would get the job of being President. Though if this were the case I'd rather there be a special election for a new President in November of X year... and the next in line would be a caretaker President - just keeping things ticking along, or trying the best to clean up the mess without doing anything brash (such as start a war!).

People need to be held accountable, and this is what this Congress and Executive Office are lacking right now. As they said, Congress is the opposite of Progress....

Mark.

[Kansas Wyatt]

16. Keep him there, tie his hands, and crawl up his ass

With a microscope. Make it a living hell for his last two years, and let him finally use his VETO power to show the American people that his Republican ass does not give a shit about any of them. Let him self destruct himself and his Republican Party, instead of the country and the world for a change. Make the American people very hungry for a Democratic Government to reverse all of the middle class destruction the Republican Government has done and implement a New Deal, Part II. When the Democratic Government is achieved, bury Republicans with the precedents and tactics the Republicans have set and used the last five years.

[AX10]

20. I agree with this course of action.

"With a microscope. Make it a living hell for his last two years, and let him finally use his VETO power to show the American people that his Republican ass does not give a shit about any of them. Let him self destruct himself and his Republican Party, instead of the country and the world for a change. Make the American people very hungry for a Democratic Government to reverse all of the middle class destruction the Republican Government has done and implement a New Deal, Part II. When the Democratic Government is achieved, bury Republicans with the precedents and tactics the Republicans have set and used the last five years."

[godhatesrepublicans]

17. Yes, to show that Dems have some spine left.

[Imagevision]

18. The House and Senate can't vote to begin troop withdrawal?

[Rosco T.]

If we have both houses, then TIMING is important...

Block, override, investigate the hell out of them from Nov'06 till Nov'08. Don't even MENTION the word IMPEACHMENT.

If we control both houses, we can prevent any more damage and begin to reverse some of the more slimy things.

Impeach/Remove both 'Fer Brains/Crashcart in December '08

Make sure he goes down in the history books as IMPEACHED AND REMOVED FROM OFFICE.

[Old and In the Way]

19. Absolutely....if for no other reason than to send a signal to future

would be dictator-deciders. You trash our Constitution at your own peril. Bush needs to be held accountable. The fact that the Republican Syndicate has given him a free pass for 6 years does not mean that the crimes go unpunished. We made the mistake of not going for the jugular during Iran-Contra and BCCI....we best not make the same mistake again.

[saltpoint]

21. It took the families of the victims of the 9/11 attacks to get public

hearings and an investigative commission, such as they were, despite a recalcitrant White House.

The friends and the families of fallen and wounded soldiers might very well bring pressure to bear to see articles of impeachment introduced. With a blue House and Senate, Conyers' initiatives would have significantly more support than it would now.

For them, because their loss is so great for a war Bush lied us into, I say the documents should be subpoena'd in support of the articles of impeachment, and that select friends and families of fallen troops should be invited rotationally to the hearings.

[sam sarrha]

22. history needs a bookmark to show we stood against evil and did something

about it...

[ismnotwasm]

23. Yes

He's a total fuckup as well as a criminal, but for better content (Some days words leave me and this is one of those days..) Have you seen this Rolling Stone article? It was put up here a day or so ago.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_in_history?rnd=1145928983540&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1040

The part about expanding the executive power branch of government, the lies etc, we knew here all along. But what really gets me, is this article-- is pretty long and well written and doesn't BEGIN to cover all the the atrocious ways that man has sabotaged the US.

[madrchsod]

24. yes

[Joe Fields]

25. You are kidding, aren't you?

Of course it matters. In fact, if ALL politicians were true Americans and believed strongly in upholding the constitution, it shouldn't matter which party is dominant. Impeachment proceedings would have already begun. The president takes an oath of office to uphold the constitution. If he is unfaithful to that oath and breaks laws, he must be impeached. No man is above the law. Politicians, judges and policemen, most of all. They should be held to even higher standards simply because they provide leadership to the citizens of this country.

Secondly, if we are to be looked at as a great nation in the eyes of the world, we must show the world that there is no double standard, lest we become a mockery of what we convey ourselves to be. Impeaching a dishonest president does not make us weak. It is exactly the opposite. It proves to the rest of the world that democracy isn't just a word that is convienie3ntly bandied about by a super power; but rather that no man is exempt from being held accountable, no matter his position, money or power. It is of utmost importance that we impeach a president like Bush, to satisfy the important upholding of our constitution and to set an important example of true democracy to the rest of the world.

[playkate]

26. So, you think that...

...Bill Clinton SHOULD have been impeached.

[Joe Fields]

35. Why should he have been impeached?

He didn't do anything wrong. I mean to say, he did not commit an impeachable offense.

[playkate]

36. LOL!

So much for 'no double-standard'...

[Joe Fields]

39. What double standard? The republican controlled congress,

who spent more than five years and seventy million dollars trying to find something to get Clinton on finally used testimony in a civil lawsuit that was thrown out of court as the reason for impeachment. No double standard here.

First of all, no sitting president had ever been able to be sued, until the conservative Supreme court allowed it. Secondly, how can testimony be used as an impeachable offense, when it was thrown out of the court proceeding to begin with?

And lastly, the civil trial was about Paula Jones. Clinton was blindsided and ambushed on the witness stand about Monica Lewinsky. The question had no relevence to the Paula Jones case, and shou;ld not have been allowed.

Laugh out loud all you want to. The republicans wanted a witch hunt and a crusade, and they got one. If you feel I still operate on a double standard, then so be it. You have your opinion, and I have mine.

[Imagevision]

33. Didn't 60 minutes prove Bush was lying about WMD's purposely and

if 60 minutes content was repeated under oath, shouldn't Gonzalez recuse himself and appoint someone to investigate allegations made that Bush, Cheney and Condi intentionally disregarded WMD info to go to war with false and fabricated claims made to the american people -- but this is going against the law, it's intentionally breaking the law.

Something is very wrong here, it's like when Bush told the 9-11 investigation panel not to release any of it's findings until after the 2004 election because Bush felt it would hurt him at the polls?? -- Hey! wakeup, something is vert wrong here, Because Bush feigns ignorance, it doesn't mean you have to.

[mitchum]

27. Not as much as it matters that murderous cretin stands trial in the Hague

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. YES! He must PAY for his CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY!

He lied about WMD. He illegally invaded another country. He's murdered over 2000 soldiers and THOUSANDS of innocent Iraqis. He has created this country's largest deficit in history.....A LARGER DEFICIT THAN ALL PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS COMBINED! He's trashing our schools by underfunding them. He's destroying Medicare and is still trying to kill Social Security. He's stolen elections. Gas prices, high grocery bills, huge insurance costs and outrageous tax cuts for the WEALTHY is destroying the middle class and he's doing it ALL deliberately! He wants and weathy class and a poverty class the wealthy can rule over.

Damn right the bastard should be IMPEACHED. It can't happen fast enough for me. :grr:

[Oversea Visitor]

29. I think it does and it is important

There is a world beyond America

How would it look if nothing happen
How do you take the first step to move in the right direction

By saying bush done no wrong
By having to continue to defend him
Very soon all goes looney beanies doing that
Then World will just shake head :crazy:

[tjwash]

30. Um, war profiteering, crushing debt, starting a war on lies...

...and then making jokes about it, treason by outing a cia operative, handing all of his cronies no bid contracts so that they can better war profiteer as well, skimming billions in Iraqi oil profits and on and on it goes.

The question should not be why he should be impeached, but why they should show any leniency whatsoever after he is.

[0rganism]

31. IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST!!!!!

I'm serious. The last thing we need is "president Cheney".

[ladjf]

32. If the Dems were to win both the House and the Senate, the

makers of shredding machines are going to be doing big business.

[mwb970]

37. Yes, of course it matters!

This president and his vile vice president have committed an unimaginable number of crimes against America. They must be held accountable.

You know, like the wingnuts insisted on holding Clinton accountable for his dangerous, treasonous sex affair.

[michiganbuckeye1970]

38. No

Impeachment will only allow * to be a martyr. If the Dems with both the senate and the house, they should go about passing legislation that the american people need (min wage increase, roll back the tax cuts, banking reform to address the credit card problem in this country, intelligent immigration reform that balances the needs of those already here with the need to control the boarders, and last but not least, real environmental laws that provide incentives--maybe tax breaks--for those companies who will be environmentally responsible) and then sit back and make him either sign these initiatives into law or veto them.

Every time he vetoes a bill, make a big production out of it, letting the people know what * is denying them by his veto.

Impeachment will take the argument away from policy, which is exactly what the Repubs want. What the public needs is two years of the Dems using congress to really define a policy position that will force future Repubs (including the presidential candidate) to run against. We have for far too long let the Repubs run and win without having to discuss any real issues.

Making the next two years about policy will have a bigger impact on the Repubs. Impeachment will allow them to come back to Clinton...You know they'll say the Dems are only trying to get even for what the Repubs did to Clinton. Two years of listening to that will not be productive.

[emanymton]

41. No Politics! Just Law ... And Justice

The moment in history is defined by the actions of the people. Those in power have made acts specifically forbidden by law (domestically and internationally).

It is time for 'We The People' to step forward and bring the law violators to justice. Anything less threatens the rule of law.

It is now or never. We will never be free if we allow those in power to break the law and get away with it!


Bush Lied. People Died. Media Cheered. And the people?...

[Vidar]

40. yes

[Nimrod2005]

42. No it doesn't because he should be jailed immediately

No trial, no right to an attorney, no appeals, no censure, no impeachment...Only jail, Guatanamo would be perfect actually.

[emanymton]

43. As Much As I Agree With His Getting What He Gives ...

It is not about him.  It is about the law.

Give him all the rights he refuses to give to other accused. 
Impeach him in USA. Then hand him and his regime over to be
tried as war criminals at the International Court Of Law at
the Haag, Netherlands.  

(Think how this will drive all the extreme right wingers
batsh!t... ;-))


Bush Lied.  People Died.  Media Cheered