Freepers on Bush poll numbers:

[tgnyc]

Two main reasons Bush's numbers are in the tank, according to the Freepers:

MEDIA/PR:

The drive-by media is continuing to use an over-sampling of democrats to arrive at the JA number that meets their agenda - Bush is bad.
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many people with an unduly unfavorable impression of the situation in Iraq, because of biased media reporting
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many people with an unduly unfavorable impression of what is in reality a fairly solid economy, because of biased media reporting
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The answer is simple... a concentrated campaign of lies and innuendo has been mounted against President Bush, the economy, and the War in Iraq by the DemonRats and their lapdog Main Stream Media. This is the equivalent of a multi BILLION dollar negative advertising campaign.
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I consider his PR failures perhaps his biggest shortcoming. There is no way that this Cheney hunting incident or ESPECIALLY the wire-tapping should have been an issue.
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If Bush comes out hard and strong on those issues, if he gives national addresses and bypasses the media, then he gets his views out to the public.
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The American people are MORONS,they are very easily lead by a tabloid media.They have very short attention spans and the majority dont take the time to investigate issues futher than 30 second sound bites.

I love talk radio but I really think this venue is hurting the country as well as 24/7 cable news.
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It's about the image Bush projects. By not engaging in constant campaigning .... meaning whistle stops outside the beltway ... and by not aggressively conducting a PR campaign .... Bush presents the image that he is ignoring the American people .... That he does not care about us.
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He lets the MSM run roughshod over him, which doesn't draw respect from anyone, and he simply refuses to stand up for himself more often than not paving the way for certain perceptions, whether true or not.
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The American people are not morons. Considering that the leftist MSM has 98% of the news market sewn up tight, It may be surprising that the American electorate isn't 98% leftist, pro PC or pro illegals.
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I would say two things come into play. One is the media distortion of numbers. That's always a factor. But the trend my be true even if the exact numbers are not

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

conservatives unhappy with the failure to secure the borders and the plan to grant some form of amnesty to the illegals
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This is purely anecdotal, but a guy at work that is conservative and a Republican and voted for Bush says Bush lost him over the border issue
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Bush lost me at the border.
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Because he doesn't get it. He still wants to grant amnesty to the breakers and enterers. Would he if they had broken into his house? His parents' house?
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And frankly, the borders and lack of action there practically supercede everything on your list. If we're not careful, after the passing of the baby boomers, the primary language in this country's going to be some form of spanish!

Not the disaster in Iraq, not the lies leading up to it, not the corruption, not the Dubai Ports deal, not the drop in real wages for the working class, not outsourcing, not the continued sluggishness of the response to Katrina, not having authorized the distribution of classified intelligence, not clinging to Rumsfeld.

No, it's the media and the immigrants.

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Typical cult thinking + Cognitive dissonance rationalization.

[Midnight Rambler]

2. By far the most ironic statement out of those:

"The American people are MORONS,they are very easily lead by a tabloid media.They have very short attention spans and the majority dont take the time to investigate issues futher than 30 second sound bites.

I love talk radio but I really think this venue is hurting the country as well as 24/7 cable news."

[Nickster]

5. oh sure, post right before me.....LoL....n/t

[JuniperLea]

7. Just like "their" president

When he speaks of dangerous world leaders and terrorists he seems to be speaking about himself... just like his minions on "that other board". Fascinating.

[Nickster]

3. This one is rich.....

"The American people are MORONS,they are very easily lead by a tabloid media.They have very short attention spans and the majority dont take the time to investigate issues futher than 30 second sound bites."

Bwahahahaaa, Pot....meet kettle....

[ComerPerro]

4. This people, honsetly and truly, don't want any kind of dissent

and don't want anyone, anywhere, at any time, to be able to speak ill about Bush or the GOP (unless its them, saying Bush isnt conservative enough).

They want purity of thought, they want a world where everyone thinks the same and they are spoonfed feel-good bullshit propaganda by a news media that operates as a wing of the Republican party

[AndyA]

6. Remember, for Republicans, it's always most convenient to blame others.

In this case, it's the media and the immigrants. Don't consider the obvious. Don't include the facts. Don't look in the mirror. Blame, blame, blame. Pass the buck. Point fingers at others.

It's the Bush way. It's the Republican way.

[trotsky]

8. In a way, they're right.

The media is finally reporting on the Bush fuckups rather than sweeping them under the rug like they're used to.

And the immigration issue, is a HUGE wedge for the Repukes. Their racist base wants a wall built around the country. Their country club and boardroom base wants illegals to pour in and force wages down for everyone. They can't please one without pissing off the other - and Bushco has calculated then can fool the freepers more readily than they can do without massive campaign donations.

[Drum]

9. Concern over Katrina relief

requires empathy, which you pretty much have to leave at the door as a Republican (these days)...unless you're discussing a person in a persistent vegetative state, a missing tourist in Aruba, or a 2-week-old embryo. Then there is great concern, to the point of assembling Congress....
:sarcasm:

[mainegreen]

10. "MSM has 98% of the news market sewn up tight"? What-the?

:crazy:

[Richard Steele]

20. Well, they can't claim it's ninety-NINE percent....

Because THAT would be crazy!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Arkansas Granny]

11. Of course they have to blame the media for Bush's low poll

numbers. To blame it on Bush and his policies would amount to the same thing as saying that they made a mistake in supporting and voting for him. They are as unwilling to admit to a mistake as their "glorious leader".

[Atman]

12. I am still absolutely astonished that they think the media is liberal

If the media was liberal, Bush would have been OUT three years ago, easily. EASILY. If he could have even been elected in the first place!

[BlueEyedSon]

13. i think their still oversampling the repubs

[ThoughtCriminal]

14. Yeah, I'm sure FOX "oversamples" Democrats

Not only do they not provide evidence of oversampling, but frankly, fewer and fewer people want to be labeled as Republicans.

[Norquist Nemesis]

15. Well at least they've taken care of the "liberal" media

It's now officially the "drive-by" media. :eyes:

[Virginia Dare]

16. Here is one insightful comment...

Bush presents the image that he is ignoring the American people .... That he does not care about us.

DING DING DING, I just found one rationally thinking freeper!

[Old and In the Way]

22. But that's only an 'image'. He realy does care.

We see it in how he's given the rich taxbreaks, ruined our international reputation, wire-tapped us, forgot about NO, dismantling public education and healthcare...oh wait, that would tend to support his image of not caring.

[Ganja Ninja]

17. Sounds paranoid.

"The media is plotting against Bush!" When will these people take responsibility. He's their man and they've followed him with the slavish devotion of a cult. Why can't they accept the simple fact that he's fucked up and they're fucked up.

Oh well just remember after the November elections when impeachment talk heats up, elections have consequences.

[sinkingfeeling]

18. Gee, I don't think Bush has done anything since 2001 except run a

campaign! "It's about the image Bush projects. By not engaging in constant campaigning"

I don't believe I've ever heard him address a real issue or even make an attempt at explaining something....it's all been a campaign before hand-picked Bushbots.

[ClintonTyree]

19. Yeah, that Media that is 98% in the Liberals pockets.......

"The American people are not morons. Considering that the leftist MSM has 98% of the news market sewn up tight, It may be surprising that the American electorate isn't 98% leftist, pro PC or pro illegals". :eyes:

These people really ARE delusional, aren't they? Let's not mention Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, Malkin, O'Lielly, Blitzer and the hundreds of other Reich-Wing wannabes that clog the airwaves 24/7. :puke:

Face it freeps, YOUR pResident is a total fuck-up. He fooled the American people for years using 9/11 as a political tool to control and intimidate Americans into following his disastrous policies. They're just now WAKING UP from that fear induced coma they've been in since 9/11. YOU'RE the only people STUPID enough to continue following this cement-head off the cliff! WISE UP for Christ's sake. LOOK AROUND YOU, SEE what he's doing to our country and out stature on the world stage. Don't be such blind errand boys for this imbecile, this walking disaster that is stealing you, me and the rest of the country BLIND! Use your head for something besides a hat rack!

Ahhh shit, they never listen anyway. They're too far gone. I'm wasting my time trying to talk sense to the senseless.

[Ohio Joe]

21. I wonder....

What color the sky is in their world