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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:05 PM
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Have you ever been told you had to work 25% more for the same pay?
This happened to someone I know today.

I wonder if this would work with people I hire to do work for me. "Oh, by the way, I would like you to do 25% more painting than we originally agreed, but for the same price."

:(
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:07 PM
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1. Sounds like a bad management tool....
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:08 PM
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2. I'm sure I work at least 25% more almost everyday to week for /salary
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:08 PM
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3. Dosen't this happen to women every day?
Sorry; just an old ERA plug.....
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:08 PM
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4. Many times! It's usually not worded that way though.
What I've always heard was, "I know 2 people quit, but we're under a hiring freeze, so you're going to have to work together and pick up the slack. All the work still has to be done!"

And ya know what? It ALWAYS WORKED!!!!!
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:18 PM
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10. Yes, I've had that happen, too.
It's usually subtle. My friend said this was company-wide, and very definite. It's a big project that everyone will be working on.

Apparently this happens a lot in the computer field. My friend said once before at another company they worked unpaid extra hours for a year, and then just as the project was finished, raises were capped company-wide, so her raise for the year was $1,200.
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adriennui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:44 PM
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21. that is the reason i quit
i'll be damned to do more work at a lesser pay. now my company has 2 substandard editiors for the price of one. they as much as told me they don't care about quality anymore.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:08 PM
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5. actually it happens frequentl;y
as in, when you get a "promotion" with no pay raise
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:11 PM
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6. In my school district
they keep adding minutes to the day. We get "raises" but the same level as in the past.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:12 PM
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7. All the time.

Why do you ask? :shrug:

It seems an emerging ethos rooted in the "Morning in America" presidency.

I'm still mourning.

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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:20 PM
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11. Companies just seem to take it for granted
They just expect everyone to fall in and work more. And they do.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:13 PM
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8. When it's accompanied by,
"It's that or the pink slip" I'd guess most people would suck it up - for a while at least. What can you do?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:13 PM
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9. Yes, I have had several jobs where I was expected to
come in on Saturday to work overtime, without any mention of pay, since I was salaried, or of time off to make up for the extra hours. Usually, I got my work done during the week so I couldn't see any reason to come in except that they wanted someone to answer the phones and go get coffee because they had to come in on Saturday.

I usually fought it very hard, because Saturday at home was not a day that I spent watching TV. I had housework, laundry and shopping to do. I was fired at one job because I wasn't a "team player".
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:23 PM
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12. Yes, my last job was like that, too.
We had to put in "face time" on Saturdays. Yuck.

I didn't get fired, but I never progressed or got promotions. I was glad to leave there.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:23 PM
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13. My mom got laid off a few years ago
Then got rehired for half her salary. S

he took it because she was three years away from retirement, where she will get a pension. Of course, that is probably why they laid her off in the first place.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:23 PM
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14. Remember when an 8-hour work day lasted 8 hours?
Punch in at 9 am, punch out at 5 pm. It's been literally 20 yrs since I had a job like that.

Now it's actually 8-1/2, 9, 9-1/2 hours.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:25 PM
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15. Yes
My room mate had that happen recently. She was a regional manager, working from home, with a staff of about 20 and a territory that covered part of a large state and a whole smaller state. She was then given part of another larger state, more staff and no more pay. The company realigned again, asked how much more territory she would accept and she said 25% only. She did have to go out into the field often, so it wasn't just a matter of managing people off site. Turns out they laid her off and added her territory to someone that already had two states and two parts of two others. That person now has five complete states and a part of another and no more pay for the trouble. Adding that much territory added much larger numbers of staff to supervise as well.

She said she was the lucky one. Even though she now does not have a job, the headaches with a territory that size would have been enormous, and no extra pay to compensate for the expense of headache meds.

It was a sad thing. I hear they are realigning the territories again. I feel bad for the managers that stayed.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:26 PM
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16. Almost as often as I tell them to kiss my ass. n/t
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:27 PM
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17. Yep. And the turnover rate hit 90% within months...
Programmers at a major Big Board corp. were told they had to put 50 hr. and later 60 hr. weeks in on a project. This was in DC in the late 80s. The project died that day. Stupid move.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:29 PM
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18. regularly.
I teach. :)
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:35 PM
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19. Only if they wanted to hear
me ask them if they wanted me to work there one more minute.

I took a pay cut once. Never again will I work harder for less pay.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:41 PM
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20. How about a free case of Coca Cola as a Delta Airline Xmas bonus!
An acquaintance with 33 years with Delta, who has in recent years taken a 30% pay cut in order to keep working, just received an envelope from his boss with a coupon for a free case of coke. He was lost for words and just stared at the coupon in semi-stunned shock as his boss patted him on the shoulder and wished his a merry xmas.

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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:48 PM
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23. That sounds like something a scab would spew n/t
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:56 PM
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24. It does doesn't it? It's also unrealistic for some people.
But hey unrealistic bullshit is what idiots are made of.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:18 PM
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25. The size of my dept has tripled, but it's still just little ole me doing
all the freaking paperwork. I have 5 bosses now, instead of 3, too.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:27 PM
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26. Working 60-80 hour weeks here......
for the same pay that I got working 40 hour weeks several years ago. Jobs aren't in abundance here, so there isn't much choice. :(
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:42 PM
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27. more work same pay
I am not tn lefty but her husband. we have had two people retire in my department over the last 3 years and their work load was spread out over the remainder of us. I would say my work load has gone up at least 25%. same pay not counting cost of living increases
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