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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:47 AM
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Who ARE these people? (Poll on gas prices)
This is a poll being conducted today by the Zinzinnati Enquirer. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060426/BIZ01/304260002

What I want to know is just who ARE the 8.4% who think environmentalist groups are responsible for rising gas prices? And why would such an option even be in this poll? Why are not Bush/Cheney, the war in Iraq, OPEC, etc included in this poll?


Who or what do you blame for high gasoline prices?
Oil companies
447
(49.45%)
Increased demand in China
104
(11.50%)
Local gas stations
17
(1.88%)
Federal government polices
260
(28.76%)
Environmentalist groups
76
(8.41%)
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:49 AM
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1. They are the kool-aid drinkers who suck up Faux and Limbaugh
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:49 AM
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2. What, no poll choice for "Hummer drivers"?
:rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:54 AM
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3. enviromenalists were essentailly blamed by Bushco--and RW has been
echoing this mantra.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:55 AM
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4. I heard this opinion expressed just yesterday.
A fellow worker said it's time to drill Alaska. I believe this is part of the strategy of high prices. I'm surprised there was not a choice that it is Bill Clinton's fault.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:01 AM
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6. more drilling is now being used to 'solve' the hight gas prices. damm
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:27 AM
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11. Did you set him straight?
Did you tell him that ANWR contains no more than a 3 month supply of oil for the US, if that, and that it would take 10 years to develop it?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:31 AM
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13. funny they never mention that in the 'liberal' media...
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 07:31 AM by QuestionAll
over the past several days, i've heard numerous reports mention bush wanting to open up ANWR to help aleviate fuel prices- but not a single one mentioned that it was a 10-year run-up to 6 months worth of oil.

idiot enablers.

if it were clinton suggesting it, the 10-year, 6 month thing would be the LEAD.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:00 AM
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16. Yep, that's what really pisses me off...
ANWR is NOT in a good location, its remote and would be EXPENSIVE as hell to develop, but all the oil companies want is a subsidy and potential profits at selling the stuff in a decade to Japan for 150 bucks a barrel. Plus, that 6 month figure is the HIGH end of the ESTIMATE from the USGS, they have been wrong before, so I cut it in half, my most optimistic figure would be four months, and that's at current consumption rates, not future, greater rates.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:56 AM
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5. Environmentalists is the latest RW talking point
I've even run into it on non political boards...
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:02 AM
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7. Sean Insannity said that the liberal environmentalist groups
are responsible for the high gas prices. He said that everytime you have to pay high prices at the pump to blame the Democrats.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:08 AM
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8. The 8.4% who think environmental groups are to blame...
are just as ignorant as the 80% who seem to think that the global supply and demand situation has no bearing; one group suffers from the unfortunate delusion that drilling in the Alaskan wildlife reserve (estimated to hold enough oil to supply the US for about eight months at current rates of consumption) will solve America's looming energy problems, the other is firmly convinced that Americans have a RIGHT to cheap fuel regardless of market forces (demand growth of over 10% in 5 years, declining output in major oil basins, geopolitical tensions in Iran and Nigeria, nervousness of investors over the very real possibility of a serious supply shortfall in the near term, und so weiter) . And they're both wrong.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:47 AM
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14. Global supply and demand situation has no bearing on gas prices.
The price of oil has doubled in the last five years.

Has demand doubled in the last five years? Has the supply been cut in half? Has the cost of pumping, transporting & refining increased? No, no and no.

Have the oil companies enjoyed record profits over the last five years? Yes!
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:54 AM
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15. Demand has increased by 10% over the last five years.
If demand HAD doubled, price per barrel would have probably increased by a factor of five to ten, not merely doubled.

Not to mention that there's basically no excess production capacity, and the margins between world demand and total available supply are razor-thin (right around 1M bbl/day or slightly less, and it wouldn't take much at all to disrupt that and lead to a supply shortfall and massive price spike).
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:22 AM
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9. That poll isn't biased (rolling eyes)
including environmentalists is fair, but only if you include bush/cheney and SUVs. Like one poster said, I'm surprised they didn't include the Clenis.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:23 AM
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10. This might be one of those people.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 07:27 AM
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12. china and india are the biggest reason
after peak oil, that is.

bush's nuk-u-lar sabre-rattling over iran doesn't help, but it's definitely not the main reason- and there truthfully isn't much that bush can do to meaningfully affect the price of gas, especially in the near term
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