YOu voted for the prick... a sad/freeper/grandma/walmart story

[greenbriar]

hubby and I were in walmart this evening (I hate that our insurance only uses wallyworld pharmacy)

and in front of us a little old lady was crying and carrying on about her prescription coverage...or lack of it due the the new medical senior crap. She didn't understand it and didn't have enough money to pay cash for it. What am I going to do she asked. President bush promised to help seniors that is why I voted for him.....


now usually I am very sympathetic to this but for some reason (maybe the fact that I had to watch frikkin fox news at the dr office) I was pissed. hubby (who hates my politics passion) stepped a few isles over I seized the moment

I said...well now that you have been sold, how does it feel? It is only going to get worse...how much is your gas bill??? All the crap he spewed was never going to happen, we...you don't matter because he got what he wanted and now you we are irrelevant...


god it felt sooooo good

[Jade Fox]

1. I don't blame you....

Some people seem incapable of connecting the dots no matter how obvious. It gets frustrating and infuriating.

[IndyOp]

2. : ( ............(no text)

[colonel odis]

3. you did that to a little old lady who was crying?

you must be real proud of yourself.

[greenbriar]

6. I couldn't help my self and by the time I was done, she was pissed

and not crying anymore...

she also won't be voting for anyone in the bush cabal either!!!

[DS1]

24. She'll be dead before she gets the chance

which I think is their entire plan

[FreedomAngel82]

54. Good

I hope she survives though and gets some help for her medicine. :(

[frylock]

7. sometimes you have to cruel to be kind

[still_one]

15. no, not to someone who doesn't have the means to defend herself

are we as bad as those we oppose?

[Surya Gayatri]

26. But, sometimes shock

tactics do work--like when you lightly slap a hysteric. I suspect she didn't hear anything she hadn't already begun to suspect. May even have made her angry enough to spur her into action.

[still_one]

40. It turns out that she paid for the persons meds so I retract

what I said

[YellowRubberDuckie]

200. Apparently so...

Good God, doesn't anyone have any respect for their elders anymore? Jeez. The poor old lady was CRYING!
Mel

[sasha031]

16. yes, they have to wake up somehow

[colonel odis]

170. no, you don't. that's the kind of thing a freeper would do.

[frylock]

176. the op merely educated that woman..

she didn't scream the woman down. A freeper would have called the old lady unpatriotic for having the audacity to question president shithead's policies.

[Ian David]

47. You've gotta hit rock-bottom before you admit you need help

So, someone helped kick the little old lady to the bottom.

Hope that "Traditional Marriage" controls her blood sugar.

There are 30,000+ Iraqis worse off than a "crying old lady"

So please excuse me if I have ZERO sympathy for ANYONE who voted for him.

[0007]

211. Thank you, I needed that after listening to some of the bleeding

hearts.

[Ian David]

213. My heart was bled dry after Katrina. No more blood for Republicans. n/t

Bush Strummed Whle New Orleans Drowned
http://www.radicalleft.net/blog/_archives/2005/9/6/1201421.html

[mom cat]

98. I hope it helped her realize the real source of her pain.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. get any responses?

from the little old lady or anyone else in line? Just curious to see if anyone came up to you and said Bush was the Second Coming of Christ (that happened to me in '03)

[raccoon]

159. Gosh, I hope whoever said that is on meds now! nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

167. Probably can't afford to be.

:yoiks:

[Bluzmann57]

5. Pretty sad story

Hope that elderly lady gets the medicine she needs. Hope she doesn't hunt you down and have a piece of your hide either. I have gone off on freep types too, but never ever an elderly lady. Never. My mom is a little old lady.
On edit-My mom is indeed a little old lady, but she hates the bushies with a white hot passion. And her and my dad are two of the most religious people alive. Truly religious, not the self righteous idiots that want to seize control. Just thought I'd add that.

[greenbriar]

8. well, I am not one to brag on myself, but I paid for the meds... $50.00

so before you crucify me...

[NMDemDist2]

12. well , that puts an entirely different light on the situation

good on you :applause:

[Bluzmann57]

18. Good for you

And I didn't mean to crucify you. Well...maybe a little. Hopefully, the lady saw the error of her ways and will vote Democrat this time around.

[peacebird]

32. good for you! Show her that voting for * was stupid but Dems have enough

COMPASSION for our fellow beings that you paid for her meds!

Excellent outcome all around!

Bravo!

[FreedomAngel82]

59. This is what you have to do sometimes with some people

You have to find each person's button and figure out a way to make them vote in their intrest's. Lost your job? Tell them why. Medicine too high such as this story? Tell them why. Don't like the gas prices? Tell them why. There's so many different ways to make someone vote democratic. It's up to us to figure that out.

[Surya Gayatri]

35. Good on you,

that truly compassionate gesture may do more to change her world view than any political rhetoric.

[FreedomAngel82]

56. I'm glad you helped her

:hug:

[emdee]

77. Thank you....

I've been trying to help my parents through this Plan D mess and I'm seeing first hand the troubles at the pharmacies - thank you for paying for her meds. That was sweet. And, I think it is ok to talk about why she was having the problems (Bush) - we're too accustomed to keeping quiet and playing nice while at the same time being kicked and stomped on.
emdee

[liberalhistorian]

78. Well, frankly, I was

indeed going to let you have it, but you did the right thing by paying for the meds and I'm sure it was appreciated. I've seen people do that for other people at pharmacies. To me, that's what community is all about, helping people in need and not condemning them, especially desperate old ladies who've done nothing wrong.

[Chemical Bill]

172. ...desperate old ladies who've done nothing wrong????

She voted for *! Don't try and tell me she did nothing wrong.

Bill

[Amonester]

94. Awesome! Thanks!

I hope you told her about US on DU.
We could help for her next one too.
We could easily collect it in a snap!

(As long as she won't vote for any repubcorruptician ever again...)
(Of course!)

My $1.

:D

[driver8]

101. Way to go! That is a really cool thing that you did. n/t

[Ladyhawk]

114. Good...that does put a different light on the story.

If you're going to tell about one side of the issue, it's okay to tell about the other for balance. :) I might have done something similar: Pay for her Rx, give her an earful about the * admin and hopefully she now knows better.

I'm glad you did that. Hearing only half the story kind of scared me.

[donheld]

125. greenbriar

:yourock: Not only did you teach her a lesson about the evils of the Bushies, but you taught her that liberals/progressives can show much more compassion than the compassionate conservatives she's been supporting. :hug:

[Lindacooks]

143. Good for you - that's what I would have done too.

Showed your Democratic compassion and educated somebody at the same time. Way to go!!

[ronnykmarshall]

189. Good for you.

The sad part is, who's gonna pay for them next month?

[Frances]

29. I am a little old lady

One day I saw a man sitting in a car with a W on the back of it. I walked over to him and engaged him in an argument about Bush. I don't think what I did was polite and I wouldn't do it again. But that day I was just fed up with all the harm Bush has caused and I wanted to vent in the presence of someone who had helped make it possible for Bush to do that harm.

[still_one]

9. how do you know the "little old lady" voted for bush?

she is confused, scared, and perhaps it would have been much better to show some compassion or even try to help her

[greenbriar]

14. uhhhh she said she voted for him--and I bought her meds...

She didn't understand it and didn't have enough money to pay cash for it. What am I going to do she asked. President bush promised to help seniors that is why I voted for him.....

[still_one]

28. If you paid for her meds, you did the right thing

I didn't understand that in the original post. You did more than most people would have done

Sorry for the original negative response, but I didn't realize that

[ninkasi]

139. Good for you...

paying for her meds was the compassionate thing to do. I wonder if she's wondering about whether her votes for GW will keep her from getting her the needed meds next month, when there is no kind stranger to offer to pay. Maybe she'll also consider the thousands of others in the same boat, who might have to go without meds, regardless of who they voted for..

[thecrow]

10. That could have been my mother.... or any of our mothers....

"nuff said.

[northofdenali]

20. Not mine

she's never voted for a repuke in all her 90 years.

[SammyWinstonJack]

168. Nor mine. And she is a little old lady who fortunately can afford her

meds.

[LSK]

68. not mine

Because shes someones mother, that gives her a license to be braindead? NO

[Cobalt Violet]

105. NOt mine.

She's a life long Dem.

[REP]

108. Not Mine, Nor My Grandmother

My grandmother's dead now, but I know she would've HATED Bush as much as my Mother does. (My grandmother said of herself after voting for FDR, that they'd heard of Democrats in Iowa, but had never seen one before.)

[Vadem]

133. And my grandmother said after Hinckley shot Reagan,......

he needs to have his eyes checked!

God, I loved her! She died at 83, born in 1900!

[XanaDUer]

150. Lol! Not my grandmother...

When she got her happy birthday-you're-over-80-card from Reagan's WH (arranged by a well-meaning aunt ) she threw it across the room.

She hated that fucker.

[ronnykmarshall]

190. Go on granny!

My mom and aunt did that for my grandmother when she turned 80. I almost puked.

When she turned 90 we had letters from Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstien sent to her.

[XanaDUer]

195. I want to join the cat club!

Great story-it would be like me getting some crap from *'s WH. Yuck.

[Selatius]

11. In time, this will pass

People, ultimately, catch up, for the most part, to what politicians may do in the dark. She got tricked by a fast talker, but hopefully, whenever the next salesmen comes bearing busted goods, she'll just slam the door on his fucking face.

[Ian David]

51. yeah, but look what the fast talker was selling

Killing Arabs and hating fags.

Anyone who would either buy that or overlook that deserves anything they get.

Anything.

[MissWaverly]

74. He was also selling Jesus and Support the Troops

and a vote for the Dems was a vote for Osama, Terror, Osama, Terror, Terror, Terror

the problem is that we are smart because we blog but there wasn't real news
coverage of election 04

[greenbriar]

135. and I am willing to bet the majority of the older generation

doesn't blog or read the internet, they get their news from the tv media and rushbo

[RebelOne]

156. I am of the older generation and I probably have been reading

the news on the Internet long before you probably even got online. So don't imply that we older ones all listen to Rush and watch Fox News.

[MissWaverly]

183. I am not saying that I am 52 but my sister who's 63 is CNN only

she can't stand surfing the net.

[Individualist]

205. I'll be 63 in three months,

and I know that CNN and Faux are nothing but reich wing whores. I love surfing the net. I also know that age is NO excuse for willful ignorance.

[MissWaverly]

212. my sister says the bloggers are too tin foil

she says they jump from a to z w/o facts, she always welcomes updates from the blog though.
She says that if it was real the newpapers would cover it, she reads the Washington Post.

:-)

[MissWaverly]

182. you mean the fair and balanced faux news

one very devious tactic faux does is that the broadcast the news at 10:00 pm here,
many people watch it simply because of that.

[Selatius]

83. Who the hell are you to decide who deserves that kind of misery?

I don't see how you are making yourself any different from the those I disagree with completely. They judged somebody worthy of derision; ridicule; and, in the case of war, death, and you're judging them worthy of the misery and various ills that comes with walking down that path.

I note you say, "Anything." Think how insane you sound for a second. By that rubric, for instance, they deserve to die when some religious nutjob decides to strap on a bomb and take a walk on a crowded Manhattan street because they "bought the damaged goods" by voting in a president who believes in bombing men, women, and children with napalm and white phosphorus because they're supporting and offering aid and shelter to those shooting at US soldiers in Iraq.

I don't decide who deserves what misery they get because that's not my job, and it would be awful proud of me to judge them as if they were inferior to me. I'm just a man, not a god.

[Tsiyu]

93. Right

People who supported that asswipe AWOL coke addict should have their tears dried away just to show how compassionate we are?

Where was that old fart's concern for my daughter's and my reproductive rights?

Where are her tears for all the soldiers killed?

Where are her tears for all of the suffering old ladies who won't be lucky enough to find a Dem who can pay for their meds?

Where are her tears for the children and women ** has tortured and the little babies burned beyond recognition in Iraq?

STUPIDITY SHOULD BE PAINFUL. Remember, Barbara Bush is just a "little old lady" too.

The OP was correct to chastise the old idiot.

[Selatius]

97. Who says she didn't cry for any of that?

A good number of people believe Democrats more than Republicans do on most if not all the issues, but because of the corporate media and the Republican political machine, they vote Republican instead because they play so fantastically on wedge issues such as abortion and gay marriage, yet you would judge them worthy of "anything"? Is that your position?

The problem with corporatists of today is that they no longer build death camps and prisons made of stone and steel. They build them with ignorance and fear instead. Instead of beating the prisoner, how about unshackling the chains?

[Tsiyu]

109. If she's like any of the the old hag Repukes I know

she only cries for herself, and believes those Iraqi children deserved it.

Sorry, but each American citizen has the duty to be informed. If they choose to be suckered in by bullshit they should pay the price.

I'm sure she is thrilled that gays can't marry. I'm sure she would comfort any Dem who cried because of **'s policies. She cried only for herself, and should be chastised like the childish person she is, regardless of age.

[Selatius]

187. Making quite a few assumptions about that "old hag" aren't you?

The fact of the matter is that I don't necessarily object to the notion that she had it coming to her by voting for Bush. We live in a world built on causality, after all. She voted for him and his policies, and this is the consequence: No money for her drug prescriptions.

However, I object to the notion of rubbing sand in the wound by yelling at her in the check-out line. If I were in that same position, I either would've let her cry and walk away, or I would've simply told her in a quick, terse manner that she voted for a crook and that she probably got her information from very poor sources of information and end it there.

[Tsiyu]

207. And the OP said she yelled.............where?

If someone has a discussion with you, or points out some facts to you, is that yelling? Are you THAT sensitive?

Where do you live? Are people unable to give political opinions in your town without yelling?

Poor you.

[Selatius]

210. I live in Mississippi

Try being a liberal down here when they still got Klansmen running around the countryside, and then come back and try and lecture me about sensitivity this or sensitivity that.

[sendero]

117. You know what?

The willful ignorance, response to race baiting and general sleaze of a whole class of Americans has put us on the road to pariahville.

50,000 Iraqis are dead because stupid people like this old bat voted for an evil moron based on a bunch of easily seen-through platitudes.

She's lucky she got off that light. What's in store for her is much worse, continued marginalization year after year. Maybe a kick-start will get her and those like her to fucking think.

[fudge stripe cookays]

163. .

:applause:

WELL!

I guess you told HER. :eyes:

Read sendero's post below. He beat me to the punch. Another poster said it well. Stupidity should be painful. No one gets over it until they wisen up.

If my grandmother were still here and had voted for Bush, it's obvious anything I say hadn't had an effect. I'd hope someone would wake her the fuck up. Our country is being destroyed, if you hadn't noticed. I have no sympathy for these idiots. I don't care how old they are.

[Selatius]

188. Man, that's one of the more vindictive posts I've seen here yet

"Stupidity should be painful," you say?

Well, I think her having no fucking money for her drugs is pain enough without having somebody yell at her in front of everybody in the check-out line. If somebody is knocked down, you help them up, not kick them in the teeth. You'll never win over the fence-sitters if you end up as vengeful and spiteful as the ones you fight.

[fudge stripe cookays]

194. Yeah...that whole

"buying her drugs for her..." that'll never win ANYONE over. I believe it would also be considered helping them up. :eyes:

The OP BOUGHT THE WOMAN'S DRUGS FOR HER.

This woman's stupid decisions have affected all of us. Those of us with chronic medical conditions in particular. I hope she learned that bad decisions have consequences, and maybe she'll know better next time.

[FreedomAngel82]

63. Exactly, my grandmother did

My grandmother on my dad's side voted for him. She didn't know why I was voting for Kerry last time and around last Thanksgiving she admitted she was now not believing Bush and was even doubting whether he was a true Christian or not. So my grandmother finally woke up. :D (My other grandmother on my mom's side voted for Kerry in 2004 and so did my grandfather before he died)

[sasha031]

13. you told her the truth

[still_one]

19. self-deleted

[Botany]

17. so you picked on a crying confused old lady?

Even If you did pay for her meds ..... you should be ashamed.

Some day if you live long enough the world that is now your oyster will seem
hard to understand and the stairs that you climb w/ out a thought will be tough
and then when the emotions overwhelm you and then will break down and cry ...

I hope you remember today then.

[Stephanie]

22. that old lady needed to hear the truth

she won't get it from Fox News, she might as well hear it at the pharmacy

[Botany]

34. What good does the truth do when we loose our souls?

knowledge without compassion is useless.

[Stephanie]

46. we "loose our souls" when we tell the truth to people who've been SCREWED?

That old lady is a VICTIM of FRAUD and the sooner she learns it the sooner she can do something about it. George is a swindler and a con artist who took HER money, her benefits, and stuffed it into the pockets of his corporate bosses. Now she knows. What was the poster supposed to do? Ignore her?

[Fovea]

81. It is not compassionate to allow someone

to continue to believe in a toxic lie, particularlry one that hurts other old, sick people.

It is compassionate to help them buy medicine.

[driver8]

103. Exactly! Time to face the facts -- she helped put him into office and

here is what he did for her.

The fact that the OP bought her the medicine shows a lot of compassion, in my opinion. That was an incredible gesture of kindness.

[Caretha]

107. Oh Please

You are being a bit dramatic....loose our souls...hell we're trying to hang on to this country for our children and grandchildren. Hers too. Since when did telling the truth become a sin?

[rfranklin]

25. Oh no...voting Republican should be like farting in church...

totally inexcusable and anyone who does should be "corrected" every time they complain about anything, including the weather (global warming, remember?).

[davidwparker]

33. 2006 elections are coming up. Hopefully, she will vote for candidates

which are not obvious liars. Here story is sad, but 2006 elections are coming and everybody should use whatever they have when they have the opportunity to point out the differences between Dems and 'thugs.

She is having trouble with her medicare. Others continue to die due to a lie. We continually are losing this country to China/India. If she is competent enough to cast a vote, she isn't too old to learn of the consequences.

[FreedomAngel82]

64. At least she does have some type of health insurance though

I have nothing.

[davidwparker]

69. I'm so sorry to hear that. These things are so important and every

American should have access to it and to college for the children. Let's hope that in 2006 we can overcome and reverse the misguided direction that Repugs have this country going in.

on edit: used the correct form of hear

[FreedomAngel82]

79. With college students

you do get health insurance but you have to have twelve hours. That's too stressful for me and I like to not stress myself out so I can do a good job. Luckily I have my dad who has a good job as a civil engineer with TVA and he pays for medicine I need (thyroids) and doctor visit's and if I was to get seriously hurt I know my dad would help and be there. I'm lucky compared to other people out there who have nobody.

[Surya Gayatri]

45. Enough of making excuses

for these nitwits--no matter how old they are. If she's up and around, she's able to digest some straight talk. My right-wing mother's 86 and still keeps sending me offensive, biased, bigoted e-mail crap. Age has nothing to do with it. Sometimes the old ones are the worst. SG

[Raine]

92. That's why for her own good someone

needed to connect the dots for her, doing otherwise would be cruel. If I was at the age where I couldn't figure it out I would be glad someone pointed it out to me. :think:

[truth2power]

140. Even old ladies should be responsible for what they do. n/t

[LostinVA]

152. I agree -- just because she's old, doesn't mean she's stupid or helpless

Personal responsibility.... plus, her actions (voting) have condemned the rest of us to four moree years of these despots.

[truth2power]

209. Yes, the decisions Bush voters make impact all of us. ..

It's not as if the OPer beat her senseless or anything. Nothing wrong with confronting these people about their poor judgement, IMO.

[kevinbgoode]

142. Wait a minute. . .

There is nothing confused about someone who didn't have the money to pay for the medication that her government insurance is supposed to take care of. . .

[tsuki]

149. Been there, done that, in a line of greedy, grasping Repukes

who looked away from the old man in "embarassment." None of them challenged me, but none of them offered the old man any "compassionate conservative" help.

And I will long remember the day.

[Kansas Wyatt]

21. A little advice when you seize the moment.

Merge Bush with the REPUBLICAN controlled Congress, because both are equally to blame. Republicans in Congress need to be chained to Bush, so he can drag them down with him.

[Burried News]

96. Absolutely. Chained at the hip ...nt

[davidwparker]

23. Good for you. It's good to point out how people vote have consequences

in their lives. People who voted for Bush and people who are politically apathetic. As someone said, if you're not into politics, politics will be into you.

[FreedomAngel82]

75. Something that always gets me

is when people say "I don't like politics or talking about politics" but politics is your life! It effects you in all sorts of way and not just nationally. People think that politics is presidential and capitol hill stuff but it isn't.

[Arkana]

104. That irritates the FUCK out of me.

I want to just scream, "THIS IS YOUR LIFE, YOU F**KING SHEEP! POLITICS AFFECT YOUR LIFE EVERY DAMN DAY!"

Unfortunately, it's like smashing your head into a brick wall. It doesn't accomplish much except making your head hurt like hell.

[raccoon]

161. Exactly! And most Americans are into this no-talk rule about politics. nt

[The Straight Story]

27. Like many dems voted for IWR (hiliary, et al)

They can cry when we don't vote at all for em. Oh wait....Who was it that voted for it and was so well liked again.....

[lildreamer316]

30. EDIT YOUR POST

to add that you paid for the medicine before too many ppl miss your point.
I'm glad you seem to have gotten through to her.

[still_one]

38. I sure missed that. That changes the entire event

from cyncial thread to a compassionate one

[The Straight Story]

39. well then I apologize since I did not know that BUT....

He was not clear and trusted the OP to be telling the whole story. Kind of that like that old lady trusted bush....

[greenbriar]

99. its too late, and I don't want to seem a braggart

.

[DemBones DemBones]

31. Good for you for buying her meds for her

and for telling her the truth. If she hadn't been ripe for it, she'd not have been saying "I voted for Bush because he said he'd help us."

[The Straight Story]

36. Also reminds me of when this poor old lady wanted food from the church

they told she had sinned for not doing things their way and voting how they wanted and she deserved it. She was so impressed she voted for the church's needs rest of her short life.

[Ilsa]

37. That poor LOL (little old lady) got hosed by Bush for big pharma.

Everything past the first sentence (question) is a realistic prediction.

I think alot of LOLs are more prone to being taken in by hucksters like the neocons and Bushes*. Maybe you could have likened Bush et al to the thieves that go around promising to do home repairs but demanding a huge check up front and then doing shoddy work.

Perhaps these are the people that need to call their congress critters. Or maybe someone should poll people leaving the pharmacy about whether they are paying significantly more now.

[DanCa]

41. My Aunt Harriett said that she voted for the shrub because he

promised not to touch old peoples social secuirty. Her words I am still waitting for an appology..

[Ian David]

53. And all the dead bodies and the "hate the gays" stuff wasn't important?

Either you buy into his bile, or else you're in the "Hitler will make the trains run on-time" camp.

[ronnykmarshall]

191. That was this dude ...... not Hitler.

[Ian David]

197. The Burgermeister? Oh! mussolini! n/t

[CountAllVotes]

61. I hope you get one

People don't like to admit the fact that they voted for a liar and a criminal. However, one mistake doesn't undo the next one nor is one forgiven for the first mistake necessarily.

There are lots of LOL's around here too. I guess you could say I'm one of them, but not quite THAT OLD yet.

I run into these puke old ladies all of the time. Many are very well off, living off of their husband's hefty pensions. So, the like the $ and they have the $ and they vote for *.

This is how they think and nothing will change them UNLESS, that pension check goes *poof* when hubby dies and they have no social security they can collect on their own being many of these LOL's have never worked a day in their life.

When the house of cards collapses, meaning no more pension, no more checkbook without end will they perhaps awaken.

As for this LOL, I do feel sorry for her because she couldn't get the medication she needed and had to rely upon a stranger. If I had taken money from a stranger because I needed it to buy drugs, I'd feel very ashamed and humiliated, especially if I'd voted for *. Even not being a * voter, I'd still feel ashamed and I'd probably whip out the credit card to pay for the drugs rather than take money from a stranger.

That is just me and the way I am. I try to do for myself as much as possible.

Hopefully, this LOL will has awakened. Maybe she'll tell her friends about what happened.

In the end, perhaps you may have helped educate another person and another and another I hope.

In any event, I commend you for paying for the RX for her. You should consider yourself to be fortunate that you had the extra $ to help her out.

:toast:

:kick:

[DanCa]

66. What was worse is that my Aunt Beverly voted for the chimp

"because he was a rancher and rode horses." She also told me that if she had seen senator kerry on a horse she would have probably voted for him.Because she kinda agreed with him more than the chimp. Note Aunt Bev's from Ohio.
(Puts finger to my head pulls the trigger sticks out tongue slowly drops head to floor.)

[CountAllVotes]

85. yeah that cowboy shit

pulls a lot of weight with some people. The thing I find amazing is that people don't even know what is going on and then they wonder why things have suddenly changed.

Another word of wisdom here like it or not:

Some of these "poor" LOL's out there aren't so poor, they just act poor. I know of many where I live actually. I hope the person that paid for this woman's drugs didn't get scammed (and yeah it does happen).

And in the meantime, for those that do need help (and maybe this LOL was for real, I don't know), they deserve all they can get yet they seem to get lost in the midst of the entire thing and do not get the help they need nor the medications they need!

And as for these rich ones out there that have plenty of $$$$ and cry poor mouth, they are the ones that can truly kiss my ass!

As I stated before, I'd have credit carded that purchase and I wouldn't have taken the money from a stranger unless I really was down and out. So who really knows the reality of this particular LOL? No one.

You just never know about people, that is for certain.

Hmmm.

:kick:

[Rainscents]

42. Good for you!

She needed to hear the truth! I feel very bad for her, however, she needed to hear the truth and truth hurts at times! Thank you so much for buying her med, that was right thing to do as, I would had done the same!

[murray hill farm]

43. Hey...i am an old lady!

And i want to thank you on behalf of old ladies everywhere..ha! Thank you for saying what you would say to anyone...and thank you for not being so condescending as to not speak the truth to someone because they are old...dont listen to these young folks who are picking on you for speaking up to a whiney old lady...geeeezzz! YOu did the right thing...and i thank you.

[Stephanie]

49. OMG I've been wondering about you!

I must have missed the thread that said you survived! I was going to post and ask but I couldn't remember your screenname. What happened? How did you come out? Very happy to see you!

[murray hill farm]

Hey..i am good..thanks for asking!

I came back to Georgia near the end of November...leaving Isla Mujeres with most of the repairs done to my house there..and will be returning in Febuary for a few months to finish that up...and just enjoy the island for a while. I will all of my life be grateful for DU and all of you being with me during that horrible few days during the hurricane. I cried when i read all of the ongoing threads..i was so touched..and thought so many times that you just never know where you will find such support and just universal love so centered and given so freely when you need it. I am most grateful.

[Individualist]

202. So am I

I agree with all you said. Age is NO excuse for willful ignorance, and shame on those who are criticizing greenbriar for telling that woman the truth.

[leftstreet]

44. Why do so many medical offices broadcast FOX news?

"maybe the fact that I had to watch frikkin fox news at the dr office"

I hear many people saying this about Medical and Dental offices. Why on earth would medical professionals be drawn to such rightwing garbage?

[sandnsea]

48. Doctors lean Republican

And I heard that from a doctor, so... stock portfolio more important than social welfare. Again, so I'm told. :shrug:

[leftstreet]

57. Single payer health-care will weed out the climber$ n/t

[DainBramaged]

50. Maybe they get paid? Ask sometime, and tell the Doctor

If he continus to show it you'll find another.

Our local Post Office had it on in the lobby. I wrote a letter to the Postmaster and asked why a PROVEN right-wing mouth piece station was allowed to be shown in the Post Office Lobby.

The now show Cartoon Network.

I won.

[leftstreet]

58. Good for you!

[FreedomAngel82]

52. People deserve to know the truth

Maybe she will vote for a democrat later this year. People need to learn the republicans now days don't give a damn about them period. I'm sorry the lady was having troubles but hopefully people are waking up.

[bobbieinok]

55. in Reagan era, parents' next door neighbor came over and

complained about her difficulties with SS, etc, and then went on and on about how wonderful Reagan was

my parents tried to point out that Reagan did have some connection with what was happening to her, but she refused to believe it......Reagan was just such a 'wonderful, kind man'

(parents and neighbor were of the same generation....all 3 now gone)

[lildreamer316]

62. I'm having

mental images of them carrying on said argument on some sunlit field in the afterlife...forgive me.
Peace to ya.

[bobbieinok]

87. that's some image.....I can sort of see it.......after a visit from the

neighbor my parents would talk about her 'take' on things for a while, shaking their heads the entire time

after her husband died, she would drop in on my folks several times a week to talk.....she and her husband had never had kids and apparently were very close......at times the visits were inconvenient, but my parents would let her rant or whatever her need was at the time

(thanks for your comment; I had never thought of that image)

[Vickers]

60. "President bush promised to help seniors" Bwahahahahahaha!

That old lady was pWn3d!!!!1111!!11!

Sucks to be her: broke, stupid, and remorseful. Too bad she let her hate, ignorance and bigotry get her where she is.

Yes, I could almost feel sorry for her if this had happened in 2001 or 2002, but now?

:nopity:

She can kiss my ass.

[liberalhistorian]

89. Excuse me, but how the hell do

you know if she has "hate, ignorance and bigotry?" Do you know her? Good God, you and too many others here sound exactly like freepers when they hear of something happening to someone they disagree with. For all you know, she could have just been a desperate old lady who truly thought the president would live up to his word (ha! yeah, right, but that's another thread), and may not be at all hateful, ignorant or bigoted. We're supposed to be better than this!

[Vickers]

100. Like I said, if George fooled her in 2000, I can understand, it happened

to a lot of people (mostly idiots).

By 2004, people knoew what they were "buying" and now they have remorse, and I have no sympathy for them.

They voted their fears and prejudices, so fuck 'em.

[liberalhistorian]

102. My, such compassion and

tolerance, especially toward older people, I'm so touched. :eyes:

You have NO fucking clue at all what this woman was thinking when she voted for Bush. She's an old lady, she may very well not have known everything she should have about him. You have NO fucking clue at all as to whether she had "fears and prejudices" she was voting. The fear may have been that she wouldn't be able to pay for what she needed, including food and medicine. People tend to prefer the devil they know rather than the devil they don't know, and not recognizing and addressing that is one of the areas where we went wrong during the campaign. You sound just like a freeper, and if you're offended by that, too fucking bad.

[Vickers]

110. Sorry I don't live up to your lofty expectations.

:eyes:

Apparently you DO have a "fucking clue" all about this old dumbass who voted for Wee Cowboy, so maybe you should go and help her out. Meanwhile, my "compassion" for idiots is waning, including my compassion for YOU!

ADIOS, Mr. Morose! :hi:

Edit: I put you on "Ignore" so I can't see what you are writing.

Mods: telling someone that you put them on "Ignore" is OK as long as you do it, which I did. :)

[liberalhistorian]

119. LOL!

First of all, I'm a "Ms.", not a "Mr." And I'd say that you are the "morose" one for always putting politics ahead of compassion and concern for people, especially desperate old women. That's something freepers do and it's what we're always condemning them for doing. And you sound just like those we're always condemning.

Yeah, acting like this is really gonna put us back in power, NOT! It'll just drive away those we need to reach the most. And besides that, there's something called simple human caring and compassion, something you obviously don't know too much about. People need to come before politics.

[mwooldri]

192. * fooled me too in 2000.

Came to the US in '99, and saw things from a very British perspective. Apart from having a dumb vice-president GHW Bush was seen as being a moderate president. Saw the Conservative scandals of the early 1990's and misinterpreted Clinton's escapades to be the same as the bloody Tories in the UK. And since Gore was the VP wouldnt Clinton's legacy be tarred on him? That's why I rooted for (couldn't vote for due to being non-citizen) * at that time. Big mistake. 2004 - I so wanted Kerry to win. Didn't happen :(

Now we got this banana republic president (sorry no slur on the clothing chain - heck I'd rather have Banana Republic run the country than * - really anybody but the American Tories) and we get to watch my new adopted nation go down the plughole.

Wonderful.

Mark.

[raccoon]

165. Good point, there, liberalhistorian,

"she could have just been a desperate old lady who truly thought the president would live up to his word (ha! yeah, right, but that's another thread), "

I hate * and his crowd as much as anybody, but many presidents, Democrats and Republicans, lie. She should've remembered Nixon and his "secret plan" to end the Vietnam War. That's the most obvious example I can think of, but I'm sure there are many others.

[Maru Kitteh]

65. Anybody who yells at old ladies who are already crying is a douche

I'll stand by that. What good does that do? Acting that way reflects on all Democrats and behaviour like that does not help us. I don't blame your husband a bit. I wouldn't want to be seen with anyone who behaved disgracefully towards elderly ladies.

[kath]

118. She PAID FOR THE WOMAN'S MEDS. $50.

[Texasgal]

122. So?

Being an asshole and paying for meds dosen't put you in "god-like" status in my book.

I find the whole story to be horrible at best.

And we wonder why the freepers think were assholes.

[greenbriar]

123. you assumed I was horrible and screaming...

I said all of this as I paid for her meds. Calm as you please but matter of fact like

it sounds worse that it was and the lady is fine...infact she was better after I left her than when I first saw her

[Texasgal]

126. I didn't assume anything

Your post was pretty clear.

"now usually I am very sympathetic to this but for some reason (maybe the fact that I had to watch frikkin fox news at the dr office) I was pissed. hubby (who hates my politics passion) stepped a few isles over I seized the moment"

Hmmm, let's see... " I was pissed"

"hubby ( who hates my politics passion ) stepped a few isles over"

Now... what did I assume?

Looks like you are changing your tune once people here did not agree with you berating a an elderly woman.

[greenbriar]

128. ahhh nope just clarifying and most agreed BEFORE>>>

I am who I am and Make NO apologies for anything I say or do...

he didn't step a few isles over to leave me alone, but to find some things while we waited!

and

YES I FEEL GOOD ABOUT WHAT I DID

[Texasgal]

129. Perhaps you should clarify your post then...

because that is CLEARLY not what you said.

If you feel good about berating senior citizens at the pharmacy, the more power to you.

[greenbriar]

130. well really, I had intended not to say anything about paying

if I had, everyone would have said aaaaawwwwww how sweet, and over look the effect on the people!


I feel good anytime I expose the BCFF for what they are

[Texasgal]

131. Instead of berating old ladies at the phramacy

perhaps directing your anger elsewhere would do you and others more good.

Volunteering for the 2006 elections would be a good start.

But wait.. I am sure that your NEXT post will be that you already do that... Ofcourse. :eyes:

Sorry... I may be an asshole for not agreeing with you, but atleast I didn't berate a senior citizen at the pharmacy.

I prefer to put my money where my mouth is... *sigh*

Good night.

[greenbriar]

134. my next post is done with you! and no I haven't volunteered yet

.

[Tsiyu]

145. There is a certain contingent here

who are apparently unable to discuss politics in public without screaming, and I believe they assume the rest of us are the same way.

They come out of the woodwork whenever someone posts a thread such as yours - where you gave a stranger an earful for one reason or another.

I feel immensely sorry for these people, because they must never have any political discussion at all ever.

If you say you are "pissed" they read "enraged." If you say you gave someone an earful, they claim (not as witnesses but as psychics, methinks) you screamed and hollered at someone like a psycho.

If you say you were passionate, they read murderous. *sigh*

I would absolutely HATE to live anywhere near these people.

You did the right thing :yourock:

[devilgrrl]

144. "atleast I didn't berate a senior citizen at the pharmacy..."

No kidding! Where's the fun in that when it's so much easier berating someone for speaking her mind online? :sarcasm:

[LostinVA]

154. hehehehhehehe

[Texasgal]

180. Oh yeah...

And having an OPINION about a post on an annoymous message board equals berating. :eyes:

[fudge stripe cookays]

196. Wow.

How's the rarified air up there on that lofty high horse?

:eyes:

[Texasgal]

198. No high horse here...

I just try my best to treat HUMAN Beings with some sort of dignity and respect.

Sorry you can't get into that!

[fudge stripe cookays]

204. No, I don't "get into that."

Lord your namby-pamby "soft heartedness" over someone else.

Just because they're old doesn't mean they're blameless. They may be human beings, but I'm sick and tired of turning the other cheek. They're helping to destroy our nation, our culture, and our planet.

They don't deserve my respect. I ain't giving it to em anymore.

[LostinVA]

153. Geez -- just because she's OLD doesn't mean she's blameless

People on this thread act like all elderly people are innocent, confused, fragile creatures who need help. This si so not true. They are PEOPLE. My SO's granddad is 86, very sick, and as bigoted and evil as the day is long. He's a deacon in bis church and in the local Klan. He keeps a loaded pistol by his chair in case "the niggers" break into his house. Yada yada yada. RW talking points all day. But, if you saw him in line, hobbling on his diabetic feet, bent over and crying because he couldn't afford his meds, you'd feel sorry for him. And on a human level you would, but underneath know that that man who gladly kill you if your were black, or hispanic, or a "fag," etc.

You can have compassion for people and still expect them to take responsibility for their actions, actions that effect all of us.

[TriMetFan]

67. Screw it! You did the right thing.

I deal with the old and young and when I hear any one bitch about Bush and I know they voted for the fool, I don't care if that person is old or young, I just tell them like it is. "Sorry but you made your bed now you are laying in it. Just don't cry on my should please because I'm just to busy trying to fix the mess you have made." And if this sounds mean I'm sorry, but I just don't feel sorry for any one that voted for this Nazi President. :mad:

[rateyes]

70. G.O.P. stands for....

G.ouge O.ld P.eople

[raccoon]

166. They gouge everybody. and at least seniors have Medicare.

Which is more than many working-age Americans have.

Edited: They gouge everybody except the top 5 or 10 or whatever %.

[rateyes]

181. Yeah, they have medicare, but

they have it in spite of the Republicans. And, yes, they do gouge all of us, except for the "elite" class, that's for sure.

[LSK]

71. good for you

I view republican voters as the worse of them. The enabled this disaster. If they want to vote because of the Clenis (and ignore the fact that Newt was screwing interns and divorced his wife at the same time), they deserve a rude awakening.

The best way to make our case is to make it personal for people.

[CountAllVotes]

72. LOL from SO here!

I just told my spouse about this thread and was asking what was thought about it (spouse is over 65).

The reply was simple: CHARGE HER DOUBLE!!!

:evilgrin:


I think now I know why I'm with this person (reminder needed now and then!)! :D

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[Redstone]

73. Did you REALLY have to make that poor old lady feel worse

than she already did?

This is someone's GRANDMOTHER, for Christ's sake!

What you did was cruel and unforgivable.

Redstone

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

76. A Little Less Confrontational Would Have Been More Effective

Not that you were yelling at her, but it may have very well been more effective to offer a sympathetic ear and state something like "yeah, I know, I'm sorry you have to go through that. Unfortunately he duped a lot of people into believing his lies, but we just have to make sure that sort of thing never happens again" etc...

Instead, she walks away still upset, but now with the potential notion that Dem's don't want to help her either, they just want to wag their fingers.

On edit: If it is true that you bought the meds, I think that was a wonderful thing, however still think the message could've been framed better.

[foreigncorrespondent]

80. Will it still feel so good...

...if you hear next week that this little old lady passed away due to not having the medications she needs?

[Lars39]

116. Further in the thread she revealed that she had bought the meds

for the lady. I hope she's as lucky next month. :(

[LoZoccolo]

82. You say it felt good?

I would imagine that's all it'll ever be good for.

[indie_voter]

84. Thank you for paying for her meds.

You do all empathetic people proud.

I don't think lecturing her was wrong, we are all responsible for this democracy, young or old. Hopefully she will tell her friends about the kind act and share some of the points you made (useless campaign promises, etc).

[Lefty48197]

86. C'mon Granny, medicine is for sissies.

Why you always trying to get somebody to buy you free drugs granny? Get off your ass and pick yourself up by the bootstraps and buy your own damned drugs. Sheesh. Some people!

[Raine]

88. You reap what you sow

and if the womans a senior it's time someone pointed that out to her, good for you. :thumbsup:

[athena]

90. This is so sad. People are already dying because of lack of health care.

I read an article in The Nation recently that talked about how cuts in Medicare and Medicaid are already causing people to go without treatment in Tennessee and Missouri. Here are some excerpts:

A disaster indeed. The Center for Health Services Research at the University of Tennessee-Memphis estimates that TennCare cuts will result in the deaths of as many as 3,311 people over the next fifteen years. Fifty-two-year-old Diane Wood can only hope she's not one of the casualties. Wood, who lives in the rolling hills east of Nashville, calls herself "fortunate" to have breast cancer; so far, women with breast or cervical cancer have been allowed to stay on TennCare. But this past summer's remake of TennCare instituted severe caps on prescription drugs, limiting recipients to two brand-name prescriptions and three generics per month. That has forced Wood to choose which of her other illnesses--diabetes, osteoporosis, failing kidneys--she will treat. Wood, who earns $50 a week baby-sitting her grandchildren, has decided to treat her cancer and kidney disease and say "to heck with" the diabetes and osteoporosis.

"Caps are the crudest cost-containment policy I can ever imagine," says Dr. Stephen Soumerai, a professor and drug-policy researcher at Harvard University Medical School. "What caps do is completely counter to everything we know based on research in the field." They certainly don't save money in the long run. When people like Wood can't get the medicines they need, they get sicker and end up in nursing homes and other institutions where the cost of care is greater than the savings generated by the caps.

Outside of Tennessee, the most radical response to the nationwide Medicaid crisis has unfolded in Missouri. Earlier this year legislators axed 104,213 people from Missouri Medicaid--and ordered the state to get out of the Medicaid business altogether by 2008. Where Missouri was once one of the dozen states with the lowest number of uninsured residents, it will become one of the dozen with the highest number after all its cuts take effect. Already, the state has stopped paying for feeding tubes and nutritional formula for thousands of residents with brain damage and other disabilities. It won't pay for other lifesaving items, like breathing machines, either.

In October, the federal government gave Florida permission to radically transform its Medicaid program into a "defined contribution" arrangement instead of an entitlement. Recipients will get a set amount of money for medical care, and private insurers will make many of the decisions about coverage--with no public scrutiny. If Florida's plan becomes the model for other states, as some healthcare activists fear, it will mean that poor people will get less and less medical care over time.

From: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051212/lieberman

[robbedvoter]

91. Wasn't her vote (or anyone's) who put W in power - it was Diebold

We need to understand that before yelling at crying little old ladies....

[Poll_Blind]

95. To all the "shame on you for being flippant to an OLD lady" crowd...

I was just wondering: At what age do people become less-than-people who no longer can handle the truth as you would tell it to adults? I understand the sentiment but it appears to be assumed that after a certain age, when people are "old" they're defenseless creatures who should be protected from the cold hard facts of reality to which they have been exposed for the majority of their life. I don't think that's the case.

I believe that senior citizens should be respected as scions of the community.

I believe that senior citizens are just as mature as a person 20 years their junior, if not more-so.

I believe that senior citizens, especially those who have retired, are to be provided for by the government so that they may continue enjoying the pursuits of Liberty and Happiness when they may not be able to physically work a job because of health or infirmity or (as in our laws) have reached a certain age.

I do not believe that being "old" in some way cripples your ability to understand reality.

I do not believe that being "old" makes you any less responsible for decisions made and their consequences.

I do not believe that being "old" should make a person any less vulnerable to criticisms levied at their younger counterparts.

Radical thoughts, I know! But ageism cuts so many ways and being a person who knows many seniors who I aspire to the mental acuity of, it's humorous for me to see many people practicing ageism without even realizing the stereotypes they are propagating.

PB

[REP]

141. I Don't Get It Either - Are Older Women Too Fragile To Be Disagreed With?

It's one thing to have a tizzy for disagreeing with someone who was embarassing herself by crying and obviously distraught, but to imply that older people, and especially older women are somehow too fragile to hear a dissenting opinion is, well ... expected, frankly.

Advanced age does not mean delicate sensibilities or diminished intellectual capabilities. It may mean a weakened body.

[mikeytherat]

157. Thank you for saying that!

I never understood the notion that something is "generational" or "that's how he/she was raised" or "it was different back then." So, you can reach a certain age and just stop thinking and learning? What hogwash!

My grandfather passed away at 93, and he read the papers, and was politically aware and well-informed, until the day he died.

mikey_the_rat

[Individualist]

203. Hear, hear!

See my post, #202.

[flyarm]

106. HOORAY!! WE NEED TO ALL LOOK DEEPLY INTO THESE PEOPLES

eyes and look into their soul..and tell them like it is..tell them they not only screwed themselves..but they screwed those of us that warned them over and over again what a liar * is!! and how he has every intent of screwing all americans ..and he has delivered us into a police state that says "fuck you" to we the people..tell these people it will be their legacy that they destroyed our "America"...not your legacy..and tell them "thanks for nothing!!"

and then leave them with..maybe next time you will listen to your fellow patriotic americans and not the media who is screwing this country the most!!

i do this every time i confront these assholes...

in fact i wear a hat that has a picture of nixon- brains=*

it opens up alot of dialog!!

and i am a woman!!

and i go right in their faces!!

fly

[Skip Intro]

111. I'm sorry, I udnerstand, but I have to say -

I think there is something to be said for kindness to one in need. A point could have been made, in a way to be so much better recieved, with a kind, sympathetic voice and a statement of the facts in a respectful manner.

I don't disagree for one minute that people who voted for that disgrace and are now reaping the rewards don't need to be enightened, but the situation and the context play a part. Does an elderly lady crying at the pharmacy counter bcause she can't afford her meds (and might likely die without them) deserve the same treatment as some fat asshole at the gas pump, bitching about prices as he fills up his hummer? Of course not.

This lady might have been enlightened to the fact that she is one of us - a group of people who care about those in need, and might have been far more receptive to that approach versus a spiteful "you made your bed now lie it" jab.

I am outspoken even to strangers when it comes to little hitler and his regime, and like I said, I understand your motivations, but I could never have been so crass to a poor crying lady at a pharmacy.

Just my $.02

Have you thought different of the episode since?

on edit: just saw you did pay for her meds. Wow, good going. Looking over my post, I still think what I wrote. I do guess we all have a breaking point, tho. Good going for helping her get her meds.

[Texasgal]

112. THis is the WORST thread I have ever seen,

No wonder the freeprs think us lefties are FREAKS.

Good GOD, telling off a little old lady... I hope you are proud.

[rooboy]

148. That little old lady voted for George Bush.

I teach my children to take responsibility for their actions. I expect nothing less from a senior citizen.

[Ladyhawk]

113. As angry as I am with those who voted for *,

I couldn't bring myself to do this to a little old lady. :( We're all going to need each other as the shit starts hitting the fan.

[ComerPerro]

115. They had a report on stories like this on the local news here in KC

and, I am ashamed to say that when I saw that report, I laughed hysterically. Honest to God, I am sick to say it but I just started laughing uncontrollably.

I'm getting more and more jaded...

[Name removed]

120. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[greenbriar]

121. oh really

hummmmm if you say so...

[greenbriar]

124. ok

you assumed I was horrible and screaming...
I said all of this as I paid for her meds. Calm as you please but matter of fact like

it sounds worse that it was and the lady is fine...infact she was better after I left her than when I first saw her

[hyphenate]

127. Perhaps your talk with her

inspired her to go and tell others in her age group the truth. If the word gets out to others, and more of the people in this older age group learn that this regime is corrupt, perhaps investing in this woman's meds will be far reaching in the rewards it brings to Dems, especially with the elections coming up this year.

[alphafemale]

132. So would all these fretful people not "talk truth" to Babs Bush?

She's an "old lady."

I respect seniors enough to not patronize them.

[LostinVA]

169. Excellent point I made in a post up thread

So many people act like a senior citizen is either a saint or imcompentent... or both.

[RobertSeattle]

136. No Kidding

Bush could care less about people like her. It's just "good marketing" that makes people like her think he does.

[hopeisaplace]

137. It's sad when you are forced to do the Media's job!

Shame on the media for allowing this happen.
Shame on the media for not having news programs that make it clear
what it is the candidates stand for the average person!
Shame on the media for not using TV to help educate people and instead
use it as a propaganda tool for right wing governments
Shame on the media for putting you in a position where you feel
you have to inform these people via tough love,
..I'm Canadian and now with our media on the conservative band
wagon, I see the same thing happening. I'm so mad I could spit.

[JI7]

138. i'm glad you paid for her medication

i'm not sure i would be on your side if all you did was just yell at her because it made you feel good. especially since she is an old lady.

but the fact you paid for her meds showed it wasn't about just hurting her or anything but about wanting her to know the truth and the frustration we all feel when people just don't get it and say things like "i trusted him".

[Tsiyu]

147. Where did the OP say she yelled?

Where do all of you people live who yell in public over politics and therefor you assume others must also yell?

Please tell me, because where I live, people have political discussions and they don't have to yell, even if they are passionate and pissed.

PLEASE TELL ME SO I DO NOT VISIT YOUR TOWN!

[mikelewis]

146. My mother in law went through the exact same thing today...

She loved Bush, hates him like Satan as of today.

Good Luck Pukes in '06. They'll believe us this time if you steal another.

[LisaL]

151. These poor clueless people. Well, it's not like they weren't warned.

I don't feel sorry for grandma. Because of people like her, I might lose my job, thanks to our wonderful president. It's very hard to feel sorry for anyone like Bush voting grandma these days.

[HughBeaumont]

155. My retiree dad knew what time it was. And he HATED Kerry.

But when it came down to being able to afford prescriptions and potentially getting his pension gutted thanks to corporate/Govt buyouts of the steel mill he put 37 years into, he KNEW that the Dim Son's plutocrat enablement gave free reign for these assholes to gouge him and other retirees.

So he did the right thing, held his nose and voted for Kerry.

Unfortunately, many of the leftover "Reagan Democrats" of the 80s who are now near or at retirement didn't follow suit. Many STILL believe Repukes are on the working man's side. All this even after living through the horrid manufacturing/industrial climate and strikes and layoffs during the 12-year urine-splashed nightmare of '80-'92. All this even after the corporate job slashing, stock market cash-and-carry by CEOs (that left the penny-ante players footing the bill, AS it did in the late 80s), veteran/senior benefit cuts and drug price hikes throughout the Dim Son's first term. It's dumbfounding. Utterly DUMBfounding.

[Brewman_Jax]

158. Told my freeper dad the same thing

he's a "middle-class millionaire" who thinks that the republicans are for cutting taxes and he's convinced the "dummycrats" want to take his guns. The fact is that he hasn't taken any of his guns to the range in years. He voted for Reagan, Reagan took away the credit card interest deduction. IOW, the republicans have done nothing for him, but he still votes for them. He voted for Bush*, and had the nerve to complain that healthcare costs keep going up. I told him, "Why are you crying about it? That's what you voted for. At least you have your guns."

These people have to feel the pain they gladly inflict on everyone else.

[MsMagnificent]

160. You may have been brutally honest

but at least you were HONEST instead of using the usual Reprofitcan tactic of just plain lying about it -- even for the nice (but useless) reason of not wanting to hurt her feelings.
You lie to a person, you are simply showing them that you don't care at all for them.

By you pointing out what a traitor W(C)* is to every one of us --except if you're rich, that is-- now YOU'RE the heavy??!

I heartily disagree.

Hey, truth can hurt -- but it's STILL much better than spouting Disneyland-plastic, Happy-Meal, fantasy LIES.


You know, in Ohio, who as you know put W(C)* in for a second term, there still are very many poor people still stoutly behind him.
This after hundreds of thousands of Ohio jobs fleeing the state (not to mention the entire country)

Additionally, there are constant complaints of the raises in costs of goods such as gasoline, cigarettes, liquor,
No taxes raised?! Well, not on the Federal level perhaps.
However, the burden to the state has become so heavy that an examination of receipts from 2000-2001 to today is quite the eye-opener! (The following are not my stats, they are from a local letter to the editor, written from another poor sod who believed W(C)*
Gas back then was a bit over $1- a gallon. This past summer it was up to $3.50+ per gallon.
Why? Additional taxes and record profits from select corporations who are Federally-subsidized.
Cigarette's back then were about $1- a pack. Now, $3.75-$4.00+ per pack. Due mostly to taxes. So also beer, wine and liquor.
They didn't quote exact figures regarding home oil/gas/propane heat or electric, but they also had skyrocketed. I need not say again why -- the song is still the same.


So, Mr. Bush,
NO TAX INCREASE?!
Puh-leaze!!! Have you forgotten it's a Sin to Lie?!


*W(C) = War Criminal

[newportdadde]

162. Boohoo she is an old lady. Newsflash, freepers and assholes get old.

Take a look around, see that grey haired old man over there, harmless in his walker... he use to touch neighborhood kids for fun. See that old lady over there, she helped swindle another old lady 60+ years ago out of every dime she had and left her to eat dog food.

Just because someone is old does not make them immediately a victim, its a perception 'ah that helpless old person, ow that sweet old person'. Hell look at Barbara Bush, she looks like a kind old lady ready to bake us all some hot cookies and in her heart she would tear you a person to pieces.

[lectrobyte]

164. I'm thinking of making up cards like this for these kinds of situations

[boobooday]

171. A freeper crying in Wal-Mart because she can't pay for drugs

That should be a TV commercial for the midterm elections . . .

[AllegroRondo]

173. You should send this idea to moveon.org

they would take it and run with it!

[boobooday]

175. It really says it all, doesn't it?

How about a whole series:

Elderly Freeper woman with Bush/Cheney pin on her jacket, crying at the prescription counter with empty medicine bottle in hand.

Freeper family out of gas in their SUV with Bush/Cheney sticker, sitting on the side of the road.

Freeper, holding stack of medical bills, in line at the courthouse with his bankruptcy paperwork, with a big DENIED stamped on it.

Maybe I'll write the script and send it on to them. Thanks!

[AllegroRondo]

184. Dont forget the soldier in Iraq with no body armor

[Mossadeq]

174. Hehe..

In my twisted mind I think she deserves it, She deserves to get screwed.

It's not like Bush never told a lie till now. She swallowed dozens and dozens of lies in order to vote for him in 04.

We reap what we sow.

[Beausoir]

177. I find this unbelievable in every way.

Who confronts an elderly, upset woman in the pharmacy and tells her how to vote?

Truly unbelievable. In every way.

[ThatsMyBarack]

178. Too bad healthcare for all....

....isn't considered a "moral value" (not by der Chimpler, anyway). :eyes:

[RiDuvessa]

179. I'll help you out..

But you have to listen to my little sermon.

Sounds a lot like a fundie.

[XanaDUer]

186. Naw, a fundie would have made her pray for a cure

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[greenbriar]

208. hehe

:applause:

[greenbriar]

199. hum...you sound like a troll

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[XanaDUer]

185. I have an "old" relative

He is a nasty, hateful, bigoted, vicious bastard. He was like that as a middle-aged man, and I am told as a young person, as well. He has not a care for anyone else, and could care less if his voting habits hurt his kids and grandkids. He uses vulgar names for minorities and feels that republicans kick (insert vulgar name here) off of welfare. Old does not equal saint. Even serial killers can get old.

You were right to get her meds, and you were double right to tell her the truth. Maybe she can connect the dots.

Power to you. And I don't believe you were screaming at her.

[AnneD]

193. I find that I don't have as much sympathy as I use to...

and I throw it back. My current line is...'So how's this Bush economy working for you, aren't things swell'...'Say, I thought that gas prices would go down once we freed Iraq or Wasn't the war suppose to pay for it's self'. I also say 'Wow, did you get enough of a tax cut to pay for your heating bill.' I always say this in a chipper tone. Some of these folks can't see past their navels and they need a fish slap to wake 'em up.

[KansDem]

201. You HAVE to use WalMart?

I hate that our insurance only uses wallyworld pharmacy

I don't want to pry, but why is that?

[greenbriar]

206. don't know...thats just what was bid out

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