"God's Next Army" on Discovery Times channel...

[Solon]

A simple primer, this show is about Born Again Christians who go to a "political training school" Patrick Henry College, for the SOLE purpose of "bringing the Lord" into politics. OK, these are KIDS we are talking about, raised in this fascistic lifestyle, and let me just say, these people are FUCKING SCARY. By all that is Holy, I swear these people are primed and ready for a total takeover, its fucking freaky! :scared:

[BOSSHOG]

1. I'm all for a civil war

Democracy vs theocracy. Bring it on. "Christian" facists fucking with my constitution gets my dander up.

[leeroysphitz]

2. You have an excellent sig line. nt

[BOSSHOG]

5. It comes from the heart

Many "Christians" in this country fail to realize how valuable the constitution is to their religious freedom. They don't want freedom for all, they just want freedom for them; freedom to hate and pass laws subjugating groups they hate. Not on my watch.

Thank you.

[atreides1]

3. I agree with you

I didn't spend 13 years in the army to have a group of religious fanatics try to attempt to take away my freedom, if they want it that badly, let's see how much blood they're willing to shed for it?

Now we wait for those here who believe that violence isn't the answer!!!!

[BOSSHOG]

8. Our years in uniform

guaranteed their religious freedom and they fail to appreciate that. We supported and defended the constitution so they could be free to practice their religion. Do Not Fuck with My Constitution. If someone wants to do just that, I will turn violent and I will not apologize.

[Left_Winger]

13. I'm right there with you Boss

I spent 14 years in the Marines and I recall something about defending the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic...

[Hubert Flottz]

16. They'd go to Iraq but they have boils on their cowardly asses!

[BOSSHOG]

18. Three vets on this thread alone

with 50 years of supporting and defending. God Bless America. And you can go to whatever church you want or not go to any church at all. We done good teammate. This old Swabby salutes you Marine. My last deployment was with a joint operation in Saudi in 96. There was about 40 million Air Force personnel but we had a detachment of a dozen marines. They are the reason I felt safe. They were some crazy lunatics but I appreciated them being close.

[Aristus]

26. Count me in, too!

I have only 7 years to my record, but I did them all proudly and in service to the Constitution. Freedom of religion for ALL. And I say that as a Christian. A Christian who is sick and tired of all the nutballs out there who simultaneously claim that Christianity is in the majority and should be the only religion, and that Christianity is under attack and Christians are being persecuted. What crap.

19Kilo M1A1 Abrams tank crewman. 1986-1993. Saudi Arabia, Kitzingen, Germany, and Fort Knox, Kentucky.

[BOSSHOG]

28. Roger that Teammate

but as a grizzly old retired Navy Chief I must chastise you for saying "only seven years to my record." Every minute you spent in uniform is greatly appreciated by any American who cares about our country; and I proudly salute you for your service. I appreciate your succinct and true description of "crap." Its similar to today's republicans blaming democrats in congress for everything and yet the gop is in charge of every branch of government. Ya think they are taught to blather on thusly?

[shadowknows69]

29. As someone with no military service

let me just take the opportunity to thank you all for yours.:yourock:

[Akoto]

4. That wouldn't work at all.

Without us, who would they send to fight the battles for them? Heh.

[atreides1]

6. Maybe It's Time

We started fighting against them instead of for them!

[politicaholic]

7. But...but...they're oppressed...I thought christian was the new black!

It's not brainwashing it's education-ish.

I guess they didn't learn their lesson from the last time they hijacked the government during the 20's. The fundies are the reason there's organized crime in this country. If they take over again I'd hate to see what happens.

[Solon]

9. "Christianity reigns above all others..."

A teacher at this "College"
:puke:

[zcflint09]

10. This is scary...

Sounds "Hitler Youth" style, brainwashing impressionable young people into not being able to think for themselves. The future of this nation is dire. Luckily, I think more and more young people are beginning to think for themselves than be brainwashed by the extreme Christian mantra.

[Solon]

11. OK, here is the schools website:

http://www.phc.edu/

Look, its right there on the front page: "For Christ and For Liberty"

Fucking Psychos.

[Hubert Flottz]

14. Send them to Iraq if they want to fight!

If they want to own it let them defend it!

[Kerrytravelers]

19. This has got to be the "whitest" school I have ever seen.

Really, really white.










A bit about this picture:

The Liberty Ball has become an annual spring event for the Patrick Henry College student body. Highlights of the evening include English country dancing, delicacies such as cream puffs and truffles and leisurely strolls about the scenic grounds of the historic Selma Plantation. Live musicians and a skilled caller create an unforgettable dance experience in the plantation's spacious rooms. The first dance, held during PHC's inaugural year on the anniversary of Patrick Henry's famous "Give me liberty or give me death" speech that he gave on March 23 1775, was organized by a parent and has since been assumed by student coordinators.

Ah... back to the good old days. Poppa ran the investiments. Momma sat on the porch in the evenings, listening to my sisters and me read her favorite Bible versus. And far off in the distance, you could hear the singing of the slaves out in the field.


http://www.phc.edu/about/default.asp#ChristianPhilosophyofEducation
APPLICATIONS:



Creation. Any biology, Bible or other courses at PHC dealing with creation will teach creation from the understanding of Scripture that God's creative work, as described in Genesis 1:1-31, was completed in six twenty-four hour days. All faculty for such courses will be chosen on the basis of their personal adherence to this view. PHC expects its faculty in these courses, as in all courses, to expose students to alternate theories and the data, if any, which support those theories. In this context, PHC in particular expects its biology faculty to provide a full exposition of the claims of the theory of Darwinian evolution, intelligent design and other major theories while, in the end, teach creation as both biblically true and as the best fit to observed data.


Equality. We hold this truth to be self-evident: that all men are created equal. All human beings are created in God's image, and all are precious and equal in His sight. Bigotry is a sin against God and man; therefore, it is appropriate that government forbid discrimination in commerce, education, and employment based upon ethnicity, national origin, or skin color.


Sexual Conduct. Since any sexual conduct outside the parameters of the faithful marriage of a man and a woman is sin, any government which creates legal structures to encourage or condone inappropriate sexual activity or lust, heterosexual or homosexual, or which creates special legal rights and protections based on sexual conduct, is acting immorally and without authority. Pornography, because it degrades God's image-bearers and incites sinful lust, is always evil and merits no legal protection.


Private Property. As God's image-bearers with dominion, and stewardship responsibilities, over the remainder of creation, men and women have the inalienable right to own and manage their own property, subject to government regulation only in the unusual situation where the rights of others are endangered. Government systems such as communism and socialism, which give the government primary control over property, are a violation of God's creation order.


Government and Law. Any legitimate system of government must be built on the dual realizations that all people (i) bear God's image and are therefore entitled to enjoy a number of fundamental, inalienable rights, but (ii) are tainted by sin and therefore cannot be trusted to be free of all government restraint. Importantly, sin affects not only those governed, but also those who govern. In the words of James Madison:

If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary.


Therefore, governmental and legal systems:



must be of law, not of men; with rules and processes that apply equally to all persons regardless of their ethnicity, national origin, or skin color; their wealth; or their influence or prestige;


must provide the right of self-government, so that citizens may either directly decide questions of law and policy or have a voice in selecting those who make such decisions;


should-in order to achieve the highest possible level of stability and fairness-be based on the firm foundation of a written constitution and laws, whose meanings are determined by their text and the original intent of those who enacted them, with appropriate processes for change and amendment over time and with the approval of the people; to do otherwise invites governments to recognize the acts of men to be the highest laws of the land rather than the laws of nature and of nature's God that have been committed to a written text; and finally,


should maintain a separation of power among national, regional and local governments and among the legislative, executive and judicial functions of government, so that no leader or group of leaders may ever acquire unchecked power. (Deuteronomy 17: 14-20)

(Maybe they don't think this rule applies in our current situation. We have the republicans and then the christo-fascists... so maybe they are considered two different parties in their wacked out minds... :shrug: )


Click throgu the links. In the "store" I was hoping to find PHC thong undies, but no such luck.

[Solon]

21. You know, its probably a good idea to keep tabs on this school...

The reason is if we come across any potential power players, prospective politicians, and/or appointees that went to this school, then that is a big fat RED flag to really hammer home that they are fascist Christer wingnuts.

[Hubert Flottz]

22. What a freakin' "army"

THey really look like a bunch of heartbreakers and lifetakers! I'll sleep better at nights knowing they're protecting America, won't you?

[MikeNearMcChord]

12. Maybe I am a optimist

but the more they expose themselves, the more they turn people off. Hell who will be their allies? The Catholics? Most Fundies don't consider them Christian, The Mormons, nope, The Jehovah's Witnesses? They are not political.

[Solon]

15. I think it will be like the Christian Coalition takeover of the Republican

party back in the early 90s, but being a little more careful and more nuanced this time around. These people grill themselves for days, ON DEBATE ALONE. They have won more trophies from debating competitions that ALL other colleges combined. Remember, winning a debate doesn't have to be based on just being right, but presenting it in a confident way, in addition to belittling your opponent.

[BOSSHOG]

20. Debate will be their downfall

like a virus did in the monsters from War of the Worlds. A great big ole rule of debate - if you assert, you must prove. Its pretty damned hard to prove a belief, and they spend their life asserting.

[RaleighNCDUer]

17. "When fascism comes to America

it will be called Americanism."

[Initech]

23. What a coincidence that I'm studying the crusades in my history class...

These people seem like they're going to bring about the second crusades. It's been what, 1300 years since the last one? COME ON!!

[BreweryYardRat]

25. Heh, they can try.

If they try to attack me in the name of their false interpretation of Christianity, I'll have fun dishing out massive wounds and lots of blunt force trauma. Jesus may have had the moral fortitude to turn the other cheek, but I don't.

[Initech]

30. All I have to say - bring it on!

[Saphire]

24. I saw this too, and "those" people are bent.

[Bridget Burke]

27. Patrick Henry College was founded for home schooled kids....

Patrick Henry College offers a special welcome to home schoolers. With the Christian home school movement as our heritage, we believe that no college in the nation better understands all aspects of the needs and desires of home schoolers for an excellent Christian higher education. The majority of our students have been educated at home for all or part of their schooling, and most of our faculty and administrators home school their own children. Finally, we share a facility with the Home School Legal Defense Association, whose leaders conceived the idea of PHC and then helped to launch the college in 2000.

www.phc.edu/admissions/application/default.asp

DU Home schoolers: I KNOW that some good people home school their kids. And they proudly tell us how well their kids are doing at a REAL college or university.

PHC was founded for those who home schooled to give their kids a narrow, Fundamentalist view of the world. And they want those blinders to stay on throughout their higher education.

[tenshi816]

31. Is this place accredited?

I can't see how it could be, which makes me wonder how any "graduates" of such an establishment could snag plum jobs in Washington. It's frightening to think how many ill-educated and narrow-minded people might be playing important roles in running the country.

[Bridget Burke]

32. The PHC website uses the word "preaccreditation"

Patrick Henry College is committed to private accreditation for three reasons. First, the College believes that accreditation communicates a commitment to the assurance of a quality education, and does so without any compromise of the College's Christian mission. Second, many students and donors to the College expect the College to be accredited. Third, achieving accreditation within reasonable time frames is a requirement for operating a College such as PHC in the Commonwealth of Virginia. It is common for institutions to hold multiple accreditations to meet the various expectations of its constituencies. Candidacy status is the normal and expected state for all new colleges, and it is what the college must obtain first. Some accreditors use the term "preaccreditation" to reference candidacy.

www.phc.edu/admissions/AuthorizationAccreditation.asp

It's a "Candidate" for Accreditation with the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges & Schools--along with Bob Jones University.

www.tracs.org/candidate.htm

In short--no meaningful accreditation.

[long_green]

33. The New Yorker had an article on these kids

a few months back. They are good students, fine debaters, and such hothouse flowers that they can't hack it in the real, nasty, sinful world.