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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:57 PM
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What I don't get about Freepers
The people at Free Republic completely baffle me, and I have come to the conclusion that the majority of the people there must struggle with a severe bout of stupidity.

These people are very much pro-freedom, yet they seem to have no fucking concept of what freedom is. A prime example is how they support bringing democracy to the Middle-East but call us traitors for having any opinion that they view as dissenting. I mean come on, the name of their fucking website is FREE REPUBLIC and yet some of them believe their fellow citizens should be hung for exercising free speech. Look, I believe they have the same right to speech as we all do, but I really just don't know where the hell they get it from. So, to all the lurking freepers I want to give you two quotes to ponder:

"The true patriot protects his country from its government"-Thomas Paine

"Any society that sacrifices liberty in order to gain security looses both and deserves neither."-Benjamin Franklin.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:59 PM
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1. they want oh so much to bring democracy to Iraq
yet sanction torture and bombing. :puke:
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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:01 PM
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3. I just don't understand it
How any group of proclaimed, "freedom lovers" can behave the way they do.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:54 PM
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21. Or to quote a local Repug state senator(Arkansas)
"Let's just bomb the whole place and put up a Disneyland"

Not a US Senator, and my mind is blank as to his damned name right now. (State Senator Denny Altes R Fort Smith)

But he's a f*cking idiot, and he's on record in the local paper as having said this not long after the invasion.

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:01 PM
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2. The biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth...
And you're right. They're not the sharpest tools in the shed.

:dunce:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:02 PM
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4. I agree...
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 09:05 PM by rateyes
Freepers think you ought to be free to speak anything with which they agree...that's what they mean by free speech. (BTW, please edit "looses" to "loses" in your Ben Franklin quote....I'm not normally a stickler for spelling, but don't want lurking Freepers to make a HUGH deal out of it...I'm series!!!11111.)

On edit: K & R...

:kick:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:02 PM
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5. Many of them also seem to support the erosion of civil rights...
which is ironic in people so seemingly dedicated to "freedom."

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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:03 PM
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6. the freepers are now big supporters of the Dawa/Islamic Revolution block
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 09:03 PM by Charlie Brown
in the Iraqi National Assembly (I've seen them compare that lot to our founding fathers).

I've seen them call for atheists to be deported and defend slavery.

The only "freedom" they're interested in is the freedom to force the rest of us to do as they say.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:04 PM
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7. self-centered freedom
they believe they should be able to do whatever they want. it's other people's freedom they have a problem with
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:15 PM
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12. That is the best description I have heard yet -- "self centered freedom."
It doesn't get much clearer than that.

Heaven forbid we try to take away their guns -- the constitution gives them the right to bear arms! Spy on an American citizen? Oh, that's ok because they don't give a shit about other American citizens. If it doesn't effect them directly, who cares?
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:34 PM
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18. On another board they complain about not being able to drive drunk
"Police are too nosey and should mind their own business."

The REAL problem is that they have it in their brain (size of a speck of dust) that their King being voted in and given a "man-date" automatically gives them the right to do whatever the hell they want, everyone else on the planet be damned.

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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:08 PM
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22. unless they were spied upon
maybe. usually they don't about something unless it affects them directly, but in this case, they might like it if someone finally paid attention to them.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:08 PM
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8. I've felt this way for a long time
* cries "freedom, liberty, freedom, liberty" but really doesn't seem to know what they mean. freepers think "free republic" means it doesn't cost them money to go on the site.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:19 PM
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15. It may not cost them money for the site
but they do finance RimJob's trailer fund...didn't he buy himself a double-wide with the money from one of their fundraisers a while back?
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:09 PM
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9. I stopped trying to understand their mindset
Its like trying to understand any criminal mind. Unless you are a criminal, youll never understand why someone does those things or thinks a certain way. They have a way of looking at the world that ignores any sense of ethics or morality.

Save yourself. Stop trying to understand and know you are on the side thatll be here in a hundred years. The other side will be long gone by then. Gone the way of Nazis and Fascists.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:09 PM
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10. Man, those quotes from the founding fathers are over their heads.
Arguing with a repug is bad enough, but freepers can't get enough of the Kool-aid.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:13 PM
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11. I belong to a Navy Veteran's board -- there are three "liberals" and the
rest are what we might call "freepers." (Some are much worse than others.)

Anyhow, we were discussing the whole Shrub spying situation and how he broke the law. One of the guys replied that "Bush broke the law to protect our freedom." I said, "He spied on Americans to protect our freedoms? Doesn't sound to me like we are winning this war." He then went on to say that if I was a patriot, why wasn't I in favor of this spying since it is our families that he shrubby is protecting?

I then asked him if he believed in the constitution. He said that he did. I asked him, "since when does a president get to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution he will support and which ones he won't? I thought it was an 'all or nothing' deal."

He came back at me with, "The president can do whatever he wants to protect the country in time of war."

AAAARRRGGHHHHH!!!
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:18 PM
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13. One other thing -- I have decided to quit engaging these guys
on anything pertaining to the Constitution. They don't care and don't want to learn.

One of the more right wing guys did come out and say to everyone that I was absolutely right -- that the Constitution must be supported by the president and that he cannot decide which ammendments pertain to him and which ones don't. I felt a little better after that.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:18 PM
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14. Democratic Underground is not all that democratic, ponder that!
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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:33 PM
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17. hmm
I have some issues with a lot of what gets posted here on DU, but for the most part I think the people who post here believe in the democratic ideals.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:24 PM
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16. They Lie To Themselves and Know It
They do a very good job delluding themselves... it's like watching a salesman sell to himself/herself. They don't even know that that is how they look to most of us on this side.

There are some really educated folks on the otherside, yet they ignore way too many facts for me to believe all of them are that stupid. No... it's worse then just stupidity.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:38 PM
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19. The TERRORISTS win...
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:49 PM
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20. A little bit off topic, but,
where are the Franklin, Paine, Jefferson to name a few, of our times?

Have they homogenized themselves trying to please too many people, instead of speaking wisdom?

I always wonder this whenever I see a quote by one of our Founding Fathers. We have 2 or 3 hundred times the population, but none of the leaders compared to their times.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:51 PM
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23. That is what I always wonder -- there are a couple of great men
like Conyers and Feingold, but how come so few are willing to stand up against the criminal regime of shrub and company?

To be a member of Congress and to watch what these thugs and liars are doing...to remain silent is a crime.
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insanity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:04 PM
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24. Amen
People do not care about what goes on. We have been raised to believe America can do no wrong, so we froget the lessons of the past and divert our attention to the "trying" issues of the day like the weight of Lindsay Lohan.
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:11 AM
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25. Oh my God,
is Lindsay Lohan putting on weight?
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