NBC trying to say mostof Bush rating caused by 3$ gas...Russert rips dems

[montana500]

Ahh..what would the latest NBC.WSJ poll roundup video be without Russert ending the segment with a trashing of dems?

Also, notice this quote:

"Voters in sour mood
NBC/WSJ poll: Gas prices seen as prime cause for low ratings of Bush, Congress. "

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12499923/

Bush's low numbers were locked in well before the current gas spike. Nice and convenient to use this strategy though. If you can establish that Bush's numbers are only from gas prices, when they go back down in the fall, Bush's approval with go back up. I see Russert still enjoys reading from the Rove playbook.


video:

http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=a32966f2-f8a2-4b89-abc0-876c53968817&f=00&fg=copy

[kenny blankenship]

1. Since his Long War is most of the cause behind $3 gas

his high disapproval rating is well deserved.

[lpbk2713]

2. NBC --- The Tool Network

MSM propaganda arm of the mighty Boosh Empire.

[txindy]

4. Absolutely. Nothing like a 'Defense' Contractor reporting the 'news'

M$NBC, the War Machine network.

[ktlyon]

3. let them believe what they want to believe

I know my right wing neighbors are beginning to question his competence and integrity. They are turning on him but gas prices are dragging him lower. As they go up he goes down.

[Warpy]

5. The oil companies are correct when they say the prices

aren't that high when you index them to inflation.

The problem is that our wages were never indexed for inflation, and we still haven't managed to achieve our purchasing power of 1970.

People are being squeezed to death between inflation and artificially low wages. Repugs are going to reap the whirlwind by doing everything they can to suppress wages, from exporting the decent jobs to importing slave labor from Mexico.

If the Democrats campaign on this, they can't lose. The prices aren't the problem. The depressed wages are.

[gratuitous]

6. Thank the good lord for NBC

Pinpointing the problem so accurately and completely. Why, before the popular media noticed how high gas prices were last week, Bush's approval ratings were in the stratosphere, somewhere around 35% or even 36%. Now his numbers have been dragged down to 32%, but it's all due to high gas prices. Which only came on last week. So there. You libruls.

[newportdadde]

7. Actually his poll numbers do move with the gas price.

Other DUers have posted graphs before and there does appear to be a relationship. Lets be honest here if gas was $1.25 and the costs of food were back to 2000 levels would his polls still be in the 30s? I don't think so I think he would be in the mid 40s at least.

A large number of Americans do not care if kids die in Iraq they do not care if Bush violates law they just want to be 'kept safe' and they want to cheap gas to fill up the SUV and the boat for a weekend at the lake.

[montana500]

9. You are right, but it's not the main reason.

Bush was at around 34% ina CBS poll when gas wat at around 2.40, well before the 60 cent spike. Also, I doubt that if gas prices were that cheap he would be i nthe 40's. His "slide" can be attributed to how he handled Katrina and the Iraq war, well before this recent spike to 3$ gas.

[ProfessorGAC]

13. There Is No Statistically Significant Relationship To Gas Prices

After reading your post, i called friends at Pew and ARI. I asked both of them to do a quick check to the points of the last 4 gas price increases, under a certain set of criteria for their data.

The change in value from one week to the next when each gas price spike occurred in the last 2 years was within the range of accuracy of the poll, for both companies, at the 95% confidence interval.

Remember: The appearance of a correlation is not the same as an actual correlation.
The Professor

[newportdadde]

14. I believe this is the chart I've seen posted.

I want to note that I have not done personal research on where the numbers are sourced. Hey I hope there isn't a correlation because if there is then as a country we are pretty pathetic on what our priorities are but I am cynical.

[ProfessorGAC]

15. Meaningless

This is not how correlations are done, because there are leverages that impact both of these. So this is comparing two outcomes, both of which are equally affected. Bush is unpopular because of war, and overall economic woes, both of which are causing upward pressure on gas prices.

The first thing one needs to do in correlating two items is to be completely sure they are not autocorrelated (for instance, temperature and absolute humidity), or that they are not both effects, rather than one factor and one effect. (One "X" and one "Y", and not two "Y's".)

I can show you a chart showing the sales of ice cream rising in the hot summer, and murder rates rising in the hot summer. Does that mean people buying more ice cream lead to more murders? Of course not, because those are both "Y's", that are the effect of a common cause.

See what i mean? This chart is apropos of nothing, because there is no proof that one number is mathematically related to the other.
The Professor

[elias7]

8. Lionel (AAR) argues the same thing

as it hits closer to home. You have to get of your ass to pull out your wallet; that sets the synapses firing...

[Auntie Bush]

11. I disagree...bush's* poll numbers were way down before gas prices

went so high. Also all the bad news refilling his plate daily just HELPED his polls numbers plummet. It's just a coincidence or another thorn on his crown that gas prices rose about the same time.
Can't blame it on gas...but it sure gave him a push over the cliff or transformed him into a Lemming. Sure hope he's a good leader!

[PATRICK]

10. Flipping this around

makes it cynically sound, as it ALWAYS does when they get irked by the people wanting justice, as if the greedy little people ONLY care about gas prices. Is that what they are saying? It most certainly is a snide and bitter subtext that needs only a little exposure to make plain to their loyal viewers what the pundits really think about them. 100% of RW pundits think Americans are only concerned about the price of gas. Not elections. Not war. Not high crimes. Not the total ravaging of the treasury and the economy. Not the sellout to foreign interests. Not education. Not the environment. Not health care. Not the Constitution. Not competence. Not morality(otherwise the rotten people would have impeached Clinton?).

Call them out on this two faced spin. They can have both edges of the sword they choose to fall on.

[catmandu57]

12. They had him at 36%

Now, they qualified it as the lowest in their poll, but still my ears perked up when i heard lowest ever. I thought I was going to hear 31 or 30 even, not 36 fucking percent. I think they better do a new poll.