Michael Ledeen - A CIA COUP? - "The Real Intell - Langley At the Post"

[kpete]

Ledeen, Rove, and Angleton: A CIA coup?
by BooMan
Thu Apr 27th, 2006 at 02:46:07 PM EST

Michael Ledeen has written one of the strangest and most ominous pieces I can remember seeing in print. It is ostensibly a present day conversation that Ledeen is having with James Jesus Angleton. But, Angleton died many years ago. To understand the significance of the article you have to know something about both Angleton and Ledeen.

more at: http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2006/4/27/14467/8577

April 27, 2006, 6:43 a.m.
The Real Intelligence
Langley at the Post.

"You just don't get it, but it's all so obvious. I mean, we had to do something, so I set it up."

JJA: The classified information is in the real "company," and controlled by the editors, using the reporters as agents. Somebody at the Post, excuse me if I don't give you the name, but it's classified, told a reporter, apparently Priest (but also others, as the CIA's press statements make clear), about the "rendition" business, and that's how McCarthy learned about it. McCarthy was able to confirm it. I mean, they are not totally out of the loop, they can check things...and we have people in key positions at Justice and the NSC who are happy to confirm...

ML: So this whole war against Bush is a replay of the Nixon thing?

JJA: Yes, precisely. Bush got so annoyed with CIA — after all those commissions revealed that CIA didn't know anything about anything — that he got too curious about it all, and we decided there was a real risk of having the whole operation blown.

ML: And you've stayed in touch...from here?

JJA: You never heard of divine inspiration?

I'm not superstitious about these things, but he cut out as soon as he pronounced those words, and I haven't been able to get back to him for several days.

http://www.nationalreview.com/ledeen/ledeen200604270643.asp

[Avalux]

1. I'll be the first brave soul to make a comment.

I've read through the article twice, and I gotta admit, it's very odd. I know Ledeen's history and I know what I believe to be his involvement in the Niger documents and with Rove. His decision to write this as a conversation with a dead man......of course they're his words......is he trying to get a message out there without owning it? Is he saying that Bush will be sacrificed for the good of the intelligence (or counterintelligence) community? He's really a creepy guy.

I admit I'm scratching my head; would love to hear your take on this. :hi:

[kpete]

3. I am still shaking my head

My tin foil hat isn't screwed on tight enough...

But, like you, I read it twice - creepy - oh yeah!

[KoKo]

6. OOPS....Replied to this before I went over to "Booman's" Site and read

the post and the replies to his post there. I think what some who replied on his post say...is probably the truth of it. I do wonder about Booman's speculation that Ledeen doesn't seem to concerned about Bush going the way of Nixon... unless...it's to rally the Right Wing the way PatCox posted here...

Anyway, thanks for posting this...it's interesting speculation for a gloomy day. Ledeen is up to something for sure. Just as Libby was with his "Aspen" comments.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2006/4/27/14467/8577

[kpete]

7. Fun, fun, fun

Oh my!

[patcox2]

2. This is a paranoid commie conspiracy fantasy.

Whacky right wing nonsense, only partially tongue in cheek.

Don't take it literally.

Its meant to discredit both the press and the CIA as disloyal commies, so that their criticism of Bush will be discredited.

[KoKo]

5. Think you've got it! Much better than I tried to in my post below....n/t

[KoKo]

4. hmmm....sounds like total sarcasm...with a little "Aspen Trees" type

intrigue thrown in. :eyes: I think it's a cynical way to make it sound like the press is the real CIA saying the original CIA was so filled with "Commie Pinko Spies" in the 60's/70's that in the Nixon years a band of "honest" CIA folks decided to create their own Commie Free "OPS" by recruiting folks in the Press (WaPo, NYT's, etc.) to be the real CIA. The article then goes on very cynically, sarcastically saying that Ben Bradlee put two agents in charge of taking Nixon down. (i.e. Woodstein)

The funny thing is that many of us believe that Miller was used and there's no doubt about Woodward being Bushbot connected...so there's kind of an irony there too. Maybe that's his sense of humor...

Anyways...that my 2 cents thoughts.

:shrug:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

8. Okay...I'll add what I was told by a guy that was in a top secret....

...Navy program at the time 2-star General Al Haig was appointed as Chief-of Staff for Nixon in the White House. Very soon after Haig arrived in the White House, a message went out to the Navy commands to "disregard all orders from the Commander-in-Chief", and to "destroy this message after reading".

I received additional information from another individual that I met at Ft. Bragg during wargame simulations for Operation Gallant Knight in 1980. This individual had been an Army officer assigned to Kissinger's staff in the Situation Room in the White House. He told me that as soon as Haig took over as Chief-of-Staff, the officer carrying the briefcase with the nuclear codes was no longer assigned to follow Nixon.

I have talked to several other people in positions to know what was going on at the time described above, and they all confirmed the points noted above.

As background, Haig was placed in the role of Chief-of-Staff after Agnew was forced to resign as VP, and before Ford was appointed as Nixon's new VP. IMHO, he was actually running the Executive Branch and reporting to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

It has long been speculated that Nixon was removed from office by a coalition of forces to include intelligence, military, political, and corporate assets. But, IMHO, Woodward was operating as an agent for the Office of Naval Intelligence...his 18 months of journalism experience would not have developed the kind of sources he tapped for Watergate. Woodward has a rather interesting background to include Yale, a secret society at Yale, Naval ROTC at Yale, and a fast track Naval career to include a tour as a briefing officer in the Pentagon.

The CIA got involved when Nixon threatened to blow the whistle on "that Bay of Pigs mess". Haldeman later wrote that he believed that Nixon's comment about "that Bay of Pigs mess" was code for the JFK assassination.

Bernstein appears to have been operating solely as a journalist working for the Washington Post. I've not seen or heard anything to suggest otherwise.

So, to make a long story short, Ledeen is hitting some of the correct buttons about Nixon, but not all of them.

[mod mom]

9. I'm confused. Is this implying that the forgeries were a way to "set-up"

bu$h et al for a fall?

[yodermon]

10. kick -- hey Larisa?

..Would love your comments as you recently interviewed this creep.

[kpete]

11. I would love Larisa's view too...