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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:07 PM
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They Pressed "KERRY" but got "BUSH"
...there were other anomalies too, but still...

10/31/04

Columbus, Broward Co County, Florida

Two unrelated people (taxi driver & store clerk) told our volunteer they had voted on touch screens this week and screen showed they had voted for Bush when they know they voted for Kerry -- they got someone to change it before their vote was filed.

11/01/04

Broward County, Florida

Voted early at main library in Broward County. Using electronic machine voted for Kerry and at review screen vote came up for Bush

11/02/04

Roaker Center, Broward County, Florida

Voter and daughter voted using machine - when summary popped up it showed a diff. outcome - Martinez instead of Castor. This also happened for daughter - same problem. Update from cos - She used machine 2nd from right against the back wall, daughter used machine 3rd from right. In both cases, Castor was highlighted and selected, but when reached summary screen, it said Martinez. When they reported problem, poll worked laughed, did not seem interested in doing anything about it.

11/02/04

2501 NE 30th street United Church of Christ, Ft Lauderdale, Broward County, Florida

Voting machine problem - pushed Kerry got Bush - pushed Castor got Martinez - all others - pushed Parrish got Zella - accused of not being able to read –intimidation

11/02/04

Broward County, Florida

Machines switching are switching vote Kerry to Bush -- this happens prior to confirmation screen. - other voters complaining about the same thing

11/02/04

Lauderdale by the Sea, Broward County, Florida

Voter hit Kerry button and check mark appeared next to Bush. Voter contacted poll worker to correct problem but the same thing happened she voted the rest of the ballot. She had help and was able to fix ballot before she left, but was concerned.

11/02/04

Broward County, Florida

Candidate deleted when hit button, at review screen, no vote for president, 5 voters so far reported this don't know which machines.

11/02/04

Tamarac, Broward County, Florida

The vote selected on the machine was not the choice the voter wanted. When asked to confirm the candidate that came up was not the candidate selected.

11/02/04

Veteran's Park, Broward County, Florida

One machine; told by Kerry monitor that when people voting for Kerry push "summarize". Another candidate's name shows up. Poll workers said, "Didn’t push hard enough." Said tech repairman has been dispatched.

11/02/04

Broward County, Florida

Voter needed help with machine when poll worker came over, the review screen was up but had no ballots cast (no candidates issues checked). The poll worker hit the red vote button and voted the voter's blank ballot.

11/02/04

Lauderhill, Broward County, Florida

Voted at Veteran's Park. When pushed screen a selection was made that was not wanted. Machine malfunction.

11/03/04

Broward County, Florida

Chose candidate of choice and machine chose a candidate in another section as well. Was able to fix it, but wanted to let us know.

11/05/04

Somerset Condominiums Clubhouse, 2845 Somerset Dr., Ft. Lauderdale, Brower County, Florida

Voter voted for Kerry; when she reviewed the ballot it showed that she voted for Bush. Poll worker said that has been happening to many others.

11/08/04

Broward County, Florida

Voter found the summary screen showed a person whom she did not vote for. She corrected the problem.

11/10/04

3M Roarke Hall, Sunrise, Broward County, Florida

Voted for "Castor" on electronic screen, but "Martinez" came up on summary screen. Told poll worker, but is worried that machine is not working.

11/10/04

Daniels, Dania, Broward County, Florida

At review screen, selection changed from Kerry to Bush "before my eyes" as voter pushed red button just before. Voter filed complaint with Kerry lawyer in polling place and told poll worker of problem, who said, "nothing could be done."

11/10/04

8909 Fire Station, Miramar, Broward County, Florida

Voter voted- confirmation screen came up with different results than what he had selected. Voter is concerned that the same problem is happening with other voters who don't check the confirmation screen.

11/10/04

69 R, Ft. Lauderdale, Broward County, Florida

Voter pressed "Kerry" on machine, but another name was indicated on the summary page. Voter was able to review & change the vote satisfactorily.

11/11/04

Deerfield Beach Housing Authority, Deerfield Beach, Broward County, Florida

Upon reviewing her ballot before casting her vote, the voter noticed that "Bush/Cheney" appeared even though she had chosen "Kerry/Edwards".

11/11/04

Miramar Civic Center, 6290 SW 38th St, Miramar, Broward County, Florida

Voter says touch-screen machine was touched for his choice for presidential candidate, but it registered a vote for the other candidate.

11/12/04

Lakes of DelRay Club house 15055 Ashland Blvd, DelRay Beach, Palm Beach County, Florida

Four out of 6 machines down. 100 people in line and people are leaving.

11/13/04

3720 Oakland Pk Blvd, Lauderdale Lakes, Broward County, Florida

Unknown name came up on review screen, Walter F. Browne - after Kerry selected. Asked for help from election's worker, who suggested he do it over. He retried, got same result, and finalized vote without accurate screen.

11/15/04

Fort Lauderdale, Broward County, Florida

I've been a pollworker in Broward County, Florida for a number of years and have worked in many elections. As a citizen, and someone with a B.S. in Computer Science, I've been greatly concerned about the accuracy of electronic voting machines. Having worked with computers for decades in my own business, I know how vulnerable they are to both incompetence and tampering. So I always do everything I can to cross check and verify the numbers in my precinct, and the numbers in this election do not add up. 553 people voted on the machines in Precinct 11R, but the machines only registered 536 votes cast…

12/27/04

Broward County, Florida

We staffed the emergency hotline for the Kerry Campaign Headquarters in Broward County from late October through the election. All of us were devastated by the margin of Bush's win in Florida, particularly since polls predicted the race would be extremely close. Many of the calls to our hotline were from voters who had pressed the "Kerry" button on their electronic voting screen, only to have "Bush" light up as the candidate they had chosen. In some cases, this would happen repeatedly until about the 5th or 6th time the voter pressed "Kerry" and eventually his name would light up. In other cases, the voters pushed "Kerry" but were later asked to confirm their "Bush" vote.

12/31/04

Pompano Beach, Broward County, Florida

Voted in Lauderdale by the Sea, Florida, (Broward County) and the I-Voting machine would not let me vote for John Kerry. Every time I touched the Kerry box, Bush's box would check off. After several failed attempts at trying to vote for Kerr, I called over a poll worker and demonstrated what was happening. Then a technician was called in and he had to re-calibrate the machine. The technician said this had happened several times already even though voting had only started 90 minutes prior.

01/14/05

Coral Springs, Broward County, Florida

Caller learned from relatives in Coral Springs, FL (Broward) that electronic machines malfunctioned when voter tried to vote for Kerry - machine responds with "Bush". She does not believe the voters reported the problem. She reported it to Kerry campaign. They said they were aware of the problem, and that it had been going on all day.

04/05/05

Coral Gables, Broward County, Florida

Volunteer received 75 calls from Broward that when they voted for Kerry the light for Bush lit up on the election machines

11/02/04

Coral Spring Elementary on 110th Ave., Broward County, Florida

Voting machine is not registering the correct candidate the voter chose i.e. voted for one candidate but the other candidate appeared (five times)

11/02/04

Veterans Park, 7600 NW 50th St, Lauderhill FL 33351, Broward County, Florida

ACT poll observer called in to report that multiple voters (at least 5 so far) had reported their vote for president was missing on the review screen. Voters were able to go back and correct problem if they noticed it. Observers are advising voters to check for this problem on their review screen.

11/02/04

Marriott Resort Hotel, 11775 Heron Bay Blvd, Coral Springs, Broward County, Florida

Touchscreen calibration problem: Tried to vote for Kerry multiple times, kept getting candidate below Kerry. Asked poll worker for assistance, got no help. Finally was able to vote for Kerry by touching towards the Bush button. 3rd or 4th machine from the right.

11/02/04

Marriott Resort Hotel, 11775 Heron Bay Blvd, Coral Springs, Broward County, Florida

Tried repeatedly to vote for Kerry, got candidate underneath. Was able to vote for Kerry by touching more toward the Bush button. Machine against back wall, somewhere around the 4th or 5th from the right (See also case #41979)

11/02/04

Rockdale elem. school, Ft. Lauderdale, Broward County, Florida

Voter pushed button for choice, machine indicated other candidate at the bottom of the screen, tried again, indicated again that he voted for wrong candidate, third time his selection was correctly noted.

11/02/04

Sunrise, Broward County, Florida

Machine changed candidate he was voting for (3rd machine from right, precinct 17M) Kerry highlighted, on review saw Brown(?) for president. Asked poll worker for help and poll worker had him start over. Voted successfully 2nd time.

11/02/04

Hollywood Hills Alliance Church, Hollywood Hills, Broward County, Florida

Voted for Kerry but machine showed Bush.

11/02/04

St. James Baptist Missionary Church 500 N.W. 21st Ave., Broward County, Florida

After voter voted for Kerry, and when they tried to move to the next screen, if heel of hand brushed against screen, which was apparently happening, vote switched to Nader and got cast for Nader. Kerry Poll Watcher said some had been caught and corrected, but who knows about all. Poll worker not helpful to EP mobile attorney. Was Votronic machine

11/02/04

Deerfield Housing Authority, Broward County, Florida

Upon reviewing his vote, voter noticed wrong candidate choice appeared.

11/02/04

Oriole Gardens Clubhouse, 7400 NW 5th Ct., Margate, Broward County, Florida

She had to select presidential choice 2x before correct choice was reflected. Got help from poll worker; successfully voted. Voted Bush, Kerry got highlighted.

11/02/04

Deerfield Beach Housing Authority, Broward County, Florida

Voter noticed that the wrong choices appeared as she reviewed her selection.

11/07/04

Towngate, Broward County, Florida

Voted for a candidate but other name came up several times. In another instance pressed the Democrat & the Republican came up.

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These reports are compiled from the:

Election Incident Reporting System: 1-866-OUR-VOTE

https://voteprotect.org/index.php?display=EIRMapNation&cat=ALL&start_time=&start_date=&end_time=&end_date=&search=&go=Apply+filter






And that's just Florida.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:10 PM
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1. Holy moly-I knew it! K&R! nt
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:37 PM
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18. Check this out...
http://www.kpfa.org/archives/index.php?arch=13805

Guns and Butter
Wednesday, April 26th, 2006

"Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election" with Mark Crispin Miller.

Mark Crispin Miller is the author of three books dealing with the Bush/Cheney administration and the dangerous conservative movement that is driving it. In his most recent, "Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election and Why They'll Steal the Next One Too", he argues it wasn't moral values that swung the election - it was theft. In this presentation on April 9, 2006 at the University of Massachusetts - Amherst, he spoke about the 2004 stolen presidential election and the take-over of the Republican Party by religious fundamentalists.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:11 PM
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2. OMFG -- I'd heard about this before
but to see such a voluminous list of obvious FRAUD is just maddening.

:wtf:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:14 PM
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3. How many examples, that all benefit republicans, does it take
before this becomes fraud, Damn it?
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Notoverit Donating Member (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:16 PM
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4. Glitches. Always going one way. What are the odds?
We had a good case against Florida. But then Bev harris happened, and everyone was so embarrassed, they all dropped it.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:17 PM
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5. Yes, I spoke with my local SOE
and the Black Box people were considered to be wackos. Bev ended up doing a lot more harm then good. Sometimes you have to wonder?

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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:08 PM
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51. She's in it for the money and the fame
If she were actually working for the other side, I would have more respect for her.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:21 PM
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6. This is why I'm sticking with *paper* ballots!
I wonder what other states rigged the electronic voting machines this way...
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:28 PM
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9. Do we have a choice to insist on getting a paper ballot

or is this something that you wish happens for everybody?
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:31 PM
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10. Both!
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gilpo Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:27 AM
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41. Sure, vote absentee
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:21 PM
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7. Must be operator error
Must have brushed the screen with their pinkie or their palm or touched it crooked or something. Or can't read very well. Or just made a mistake. You know all those Dem voters are uneducated, poor, dumb, brown or black, and stuff.
:sarcasm:
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 07:47 PM
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21. well, I have a college degree and it switched on me
my machine defaulted to GWB 5 times when I tried to vote for Kerry in Baltimore, MD 2004

I know that you are being sarcastic but I am not, and it was not voter error.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:22 PM
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8. Jeez-a-Whiz!
My Gawd, there is so much evidence that Kerry won the election. Can't some "one" do "some thing" like in court?

Kerry won as did Gore. Hope someday all of this comes out in the wash - it usually does.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:42 PM
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11. 42841 Total Reported 2004 Election Incidents! Makes one wonder how many..
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 05:44 PM by WePurrsevere
were NOT reported. :wow:

Stats from drop down box from tab at OP's link to Here.

All Election Incidents - 42841 incidents

Absentee-ballot related problem - 8304 incidents
Registration-related problem - 31573 incidents
Voter Intimidation - 4042 incidents
Machine problem - 4812 incidents
Identification-related problem - 2871 incidents
Criminal status-related problem - 905 incidents
Non-English lang. assistance problem - 294 incidents
Disability access problem - 1328 incidents
Problem based on student status - 338 incidents
Unable to read ballot - 190 incidents
Insufficient number of ballots - 360 incidents
Provisional ballot problem - 4221 incidents
Other ballot-related problem - 2249 incidents
Late opening - 539 incidents
Early closing - 308 incidents
Long lines - 3164 incidents
Polling place inquiry - 18122 incidents
Other polling place problem - 6962 incidents


I must admit I'd like to see how these figures compare to the last 20 yrs or so. I can understand a few machine glitches, people going to the wrong polling place or not having ID here and there maybe but some of this is not at all acceptable. :grr:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:44 PM
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12. That happened to me in Houston
on a e-voting machine.. Pushed Kerry and it went to Kerry but when I finished and reviewed my vote, it had Bush picked instead of Kerry, I am glad I went back to check. Wondered how many others might of had this happen, and not checked their vote at the end before you send it...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:48 PM
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13. south texas too and into new mexico. what i have been saying
as a few times. wasnt in a few places. nation wide. other states too
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:01 AM
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37. West Texas also.....
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DIKB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:50 PM
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14. It's unbelievable
that the machines weren't thrown out entirely. They're blatantly partisan. If you look at the FL map, most of the errors came from Miami-Dade and Broward county, the heavy Democratic areas.

imo Election tampering is a treasonous act, and the CEOs of the electronic voting companies such as Diebold should be held accountable.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 09:54 AM
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44. the attitude to fix the false votes (once notified) instead of addressing
the machine is incomprehensible on the part of the County workers.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 05:56 PM
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15. Mark Crispin Miller: 1000's of votes for Kerry went to Bush: 4 went the
other way: Bush to Kerry.

At the lecture he gave for us at Pace Univeristy monday.

It's all in h is book: Fooled Again.

If 1000's of votes were sent one way but 4 were sent the other, it's obvious it's not random error. It's manipulation.

That's all you need to know to call the election false.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:10 PM
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16. And this is *'s 'political capital'?
One thing I wonder about. Why didn't someone raise holy hell about this? Scream to their Congressman?
Write letters to the editor?

Or if they did, why are these election board meetings so quiet and sparsely populated?

Why do the voting activists get treated like embarrasing children?

Is America truly a nation of sheep?
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:13 PM
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17. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 06:18 PM by helderheid
a different result.

I fully expect the exit polls to say we won.

edited to add - the exit polls will say we won until they "correct" them:

http://www.exitpollz.org/
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:49 PM
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19. NOTHING TO SEE HERE
MOVE ALONG, CITIZEN!
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 07:34 PM
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20. Time to execute the voting machine companies' CEOs.
GodDAMN TRAITORS!

OP, thanks. I'm going to show this to everyone I know as we move toward the '06 election here in Florida.
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:28 PM
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22. I was in Broward,,,,,,,
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 09:29 PM by FogerRox

My office was on Miramar Pkwy, Miramar. WE had the whole spouthern part of the county. 4 DREs per Early vote location, while in Miami they had 20 or more.I read this shit and wonder if I talked to some of those people. ANd now I read it again, after so many months,



ANd I get even more pissed, now that I know for real, the results of the Bush Regime



These pictures are like bullets, I am shooting back. Take that mother fucker...









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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:50 PM
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23. Superb, just perfect. Thank you. Reocmmended.
I knew that while working my ass off all day, there was something waiting for me on DU that would further my understanding of the fraud perpetrated on the American People, in the form of HAVA and the EAC.

No lipstick on a pig, SETTLE FOR NOTHING BUT PAPER BALLOTS, THAT'S PAPER PAPER BALLOTS
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 06:42 PM
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56. I launched this over at KOS, as well...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 10:40 PM
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57. Hey, many, many thanks to you.
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 10:40 PM by autorank
For this, bearing the slings and arrows of a fraud-hostile forum, and, in particular, for posting around the "Cramdown, Sripdown, Lockdown" article.

:yourock:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:52 PM
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24. Greetings from South Florida
I remember these awful days and I remember when these stories started pouring in. They really did a number down here. K&R.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 11:04 PM
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25. 2002 was the first run. I remember hearing the same about votes
for McBride going to Jebthro. Same thing in Texas where Ron Kirk's (Senate candidate) name disappeared off a straight D ticket.

Neither isolated nor a glitch imo.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 11:06 PM
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26. Indeed
They were just fine tuning since 2000 was the first "chad-free" election. Once the kinks were worked out, full speed ahead for 2004.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:11 AM
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27. Stolen in broad daylight.
Just like Ukraine but nobody in the media says anything about it.

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:26 AM
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29. Nothing the media can do about it
Technically the people don't choose the president, the House of Representatives do according to the constitution. So not much you can do, legally.

Andrew Jackson won both the popular vote and electoral vote in 1824. But he still lost the Presidency.
We have a very odd way of electing presidents.
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jerry611 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:19 AM
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28. Touchscreens suck
Even when I am at the ATM, I am either practically banging on the screen to make it work, or it reads my finger wrong.

It's not very efficient technology, and it shouldn't be used for voting.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:31 AM
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30. If it was just "Buggy"
There should be about as many cases of "Pressed Bush - Got Kerry". But I have not heard of even a handful of reports to that effect.

However, if it was a deliberate design, I would expect the review screen to show "Kerry" but internally count "Bush" so that a deliberate mis-vote would not be visible to the voter. Seems to be a bug either way you look at it.

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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:15 AM
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40. And these are just people that bothered to register a complaint.
Imagine the thousands of others who didn't, who threw up their hands in disgust, who got tired of waiting, etc., etc., etc.

It was stolen. Flat out stolen.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:07 AM
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31. I think we need to bring our own tools to fix these machines
I'm thinking a 5 lb. sledge hammer would fix them.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:44 PM
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54. Hmm... Perhaps a little more subtle than that...
I think we should all put pressure on the various districts to find out what sort of "backup" system they have if they have a power outage, etc. If they do have a *better* system involving paper ballots, then perhaps we should all show up with tools to "short out" these machines, or help throw a "power surge" through the precinct to short them out on election day. Then perhaps we can force them out to have the hard copies used instead.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 02:21 AM
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32. Great list of 'anomalies'
I get the impression that it was a 'bug' purposely written to randomly switch every several thousand votes. I recall hearing there were some votes switching from Bush to Kerry but it seems like they were few and far between.

I have to say. It was cleverly programmed, but probably not too difficult especially with no independant oversight.

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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:13 AM
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39. Google "Clint Curtis" to confirm your suspicions. n/t
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passy Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:46 AM
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33. Altough touch screens weren't the main problem, optiscans were
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/DOP411A.html just read this, a great analysis of comparing results with registered voters.
When you get increases of over 400% in one direction and -70% in the other something is serioulsy wrong.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 07:29 AM
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34. great documentation
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 07:48 AM
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35. I have been screaming since November 2, 2004 that...
Florida was a blue state and did NOT go for Bush. Or for Martinez for that matter. I have no doubt Castor legitimately won the election. It's absolutely maddening!

It's the only explanation for why the Dragon Lady is so confident while polling at 27% against Nelson.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 07:56 AM
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36. If you stole votes why give the user a chance to see just keep Kerry up.
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 07:57 AM by newportdadde
I'm a programmer, if I was going to steal votes from Kerry and give it to Bush I would never have allowed the interface to change to show Bush's name I would keep showing you Kerry and then change the data sent behind the scenes.

Infact I would randomize it to change a Kerry to Bush vote ever time X number came up in my randomizer and I would only kick it in if Bush was loosing by a 2%-3% margin.

To me this software sounds like a buggy piece of shit, just how hard is it to write a program that freakin adds :shrug:.

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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:11 AM
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38. VerifiedVoting.org - part of the solution.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 08:43 AM
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42. Wasn't there a HUGE difference in bush vs kerry switched votes?
K&R!

Excellent!
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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 09:13 AM
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43. Paper ballots and Hand counts NOW!!! Democracy NOW!!!
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nmliberal Donating Member (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 10:22 AM
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45. I sent NM's Sec'y of State 3 examples from Otero County
I had three written statements from Otero County/Alamogordo New Mexico voters who experienced voting for candidate A, a Democrat but having the initial vote register for the republican candidate. I sent these to the Sec'y of State, Rebecca Vigil Giron, a Democrat; later I saw an article in the Albuquerque newspaper reporting the same thing. And yet she reported "no problems" to the Governor and the public.


Hubris? Trust in her election bureau director, Denise Lamb, who was voted head of the National Ass'n of State Election Bureau Directors who trusted the techs from Sequoia too much?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 10:45 PM
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58. Rebecca Vigil Giron is a joke
*Sincerely, a northern New Mexican pissed off at her AND Bill Richardson*
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:36 AM
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46. Can you imagine if you were at your computer, and you clicked on "DU" but
...got "FreeRepublic"? These votings systems are very easy to program - the fact that these "errors" are occuring prove that the systems have been compromised by electioneers.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 11:48 AM
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47. seems like the Default was set at 'bush'
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 12:41 PM
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49. it would be easy to write a random function that sends every 5th vote
To Bush. Thats probably what they did, so it wouldnt appear too obvious.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 12:38 PM
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48. i remember hearing about this happening in FL on election day
But that was the last I heard of it. It might have been a quick blurb on CNN or MSRNC, but I remember it mentioned the afternoon of election day.

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 01:01 PM
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50. The only reason evoting is used is because republicans can
easily manipulate these machines in order to maintain power.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:21 PM
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52. GTA
Grand Theft America
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:41 PM
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53. I remember someone said this happened to them during the election...
I think it was in Iowa, but it might have been someplace like Florida, since it was on an Iowa message board.

Said they went back to review their selections, and saw Bush was selected instead of Kerry.
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Chi Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:49 PM
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55. A very good study on 'screen calibration' issues.
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