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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:40 PM
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Alito blatantly lied...ROTC returned to Princeton the same year CAP formed
The bastard has been caught in a blatant lie, under oath. Today Alito claimed he joined CAP because it was a way to bring the ROTC back to Princeton. In reality, the ROTC was brought BACK to Princeton at the beginning of that same year! This needs to get to the Dems on the Senate Judiciary Committee NOW!

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While approximately 125 demonstrators stood outside their Nassau Hall meeting room, the Board of Trustees Saturday approved, 30-4, the return of the Army and Air Force ROTC to the Princeton Campus in September, 1972.

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2001/01/17/history/

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Interviews with several alumni who were students in the 1970s paint a picture of Concerned Alumni of Princeton (CAP) as a far-right organization funded by conservative alumni committed to turning back the clock on coeducation at the University.

Also, Napolitano, who served on CAP's board from its founding in 1972 until it shut down in the early 1980s, said that he has "zero recollection of Sam Alito being involved directly or indirectly" with the group.

http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2005/11/18/news/13876.shtml
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:42 PM
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1. Alito lied? I thought that it was a requirement that all bush** nominees
for anything be delusional, irrational, self-serving liars. My mistake?
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:52 PM
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2. I just forwarded this to Kennedy.
Thanks for posting.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:56 PM
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3. someone did bring that up today
as passing shot during questioning. Can't remember who it was though. It was just one comment but I do remember someone saying it.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:56 PM
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4. A lie under oath? Imagine that.
:kick:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:00 PM
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5. Another opinion
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 11:03 PM by George Oilwellian
Atrios:

After stating again this morning that he had no recollection of joining Concerned Alumni for Princeton, the racist and sexist organization that objected to women and minorities being admitted at Princeton, despite having included it in his job application to work for Ed Meese in 1985, Alito this morning now pretends to remember WHY he joined an organization he says he does not remember joining.

So Alito's story on CAP is that 'he didn't do it, and if he did do it, he doesn't remember, and if he did do it and does remember, then he had a good reason for doing it.'

http://atrios.blogspot.com/

LOLOL! I don't remember joining CAP but here is why I did. :D

On Edit: Atrios was posting a comment by Armando at Daily Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/10/104130/326
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:22 AM
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11. That is a good point...
I wish the democrats would use this and ask him about ROTC being readmitted in the begining of '72 and how he knows why he joined if he can't remember joining. Could be interesting, but I won't hold my breath for the democrats to listen to us.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:15 PM
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6. thx sent to feingold and schumer!!! n/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:16 PM
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7. k&R!!!!!!!!!! n/t
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:48 PM
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8. The only way the Dems can filibuster....
is if they prove Alito is a liar. They won't be able to pin him on law...it's his lying, under oath, that could be argued.

I can't believe DU is so slow in responding to this thread. This lie can be so easily proven.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:26 AM
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9. K & R. Another B* liar. n/t
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:31 AM
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10. One other thing to note...
Who are the "conservative alumni" that funded CAP?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:25 AM
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12. And if Alito was so proud of joining ROTC
Why wasn't it listed in his yearbook entry? And why didn't he ever wear his uniform on campus? But more than a decade after leaving Princeton, he was proudly putting his CAP membership on his resume.

Inquiring minds might want to know the answer to some of those whys . . .
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:21 PM
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21. He only included two groups on his resume
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 04:22 PM by DoYouEverWonder
CAP and the Federalist Society. It's not like this guy was a member of a lot of clubs or a real social butterfly.

Funny that he didn't play up his ROTC duty? You would think that would be something a guy like him would make a big deal about the ROTC over a group that he can't even remember?


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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:31 AM
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13. TRANSCRIPT - Alito said Air Force did NOT come back....
ALITO: But since I put it down on that statement, then I certainly must have been a member at that time.

But if I had been actively involved in the organization in any way, if I had attended meetings, or been actively involved in any way, I would certainly remember that, and I don't.

And I have tried to think of what might have caused me to sign up for membership. And if I did, it must have been around that time.

And the issue that had rankled me about Princeton for some time was the issue of ROTC. I was in ROTC when I was at Princeton, and the unit was expelled from the campus, and I thought that was very wrong. I had a lot of friends who were against the war in Vietnam, and I respected their opinions, but I didn't think that it was right to oppose the military for that reason.

And the issue -- although the Army unit was eventually brought back, the Navy and the Air Force units did not come back, and the issue kept coming up. And there were people who were strongly opposed to having any unit on campus.

And the attitude seemed to be that the military was the bad institution, and that Princeton was too good for the military, and that Princeton would somehow be sullied if people in uniform were walking around the campus, that the courses didn't merit getting credit, that the instructors shouldn't be viewed as part of the faculty.

And that was the issue that bothered me about that.


....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/10/AR2006011000781.html
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:08 AM
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14. CAP smear?
In March of 1984, the magazine of the Concerned Alumni of Princeton {"CAP") published an article that identified a female Princeton freshman by name and divulged information about her sex life.

Controversy about the article in CAP's magazine drew national attention, garnering two separate articles in the New York Times.

http://www.isthatlegal.org/archives/2005/11/cap_smear.html




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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:21 PM
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20. Just before Alito so proudly put it on his resume
So, the timing of this notoriety had something to do with the decision to recommend himself thusly.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:12 AM
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15. So did he lie about membership of CAP
to impress the rich white boys in the Reagan white house.
That would be priceless.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:24 PM
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22. Either he lied to them
or he lied to the Senate yesterday. Pick one. Either way he's been borked.

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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:50 AM
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16. Durbin questioned him again about CAP
Did anyone else see it? Alito turned a more pasty white than he already is...HE knows he's lying about this issue to the judiciary cmte because he knows he doesn't have a chance in hell of getting on the Supreme Court if he protested against women and minorities.

Durbin said that the ROTC had already returned when he put CAP on his resume, so he has it wrong. I just called his office and told his aide that CAP came back to Princeton BEFORE CAP was founded, so that can't be why he joined CAP and he's blatantly lying. Junkdrawer, I also quoted your gem of a find where he said the army and air force ROTC had not returned to Princeton which is obviously a clear lie. I also told the aide, if they are to filibuster Alito, it has to be because he lied under oath, not because of some technicality of law. The American people understand lying under oath, because of what the Republicans did to Clinton. :D
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:54 PM
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17. Ted kennedy just caught him with it
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:56 PM
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18. I saw that...
He said by 1985, the ROTC on Princeton campus was very popular again. I didn't realize that Alito joined CAP long after he graduated in 1972. That makes it all the more interesting as to why he would join such an organization.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 04:17 PM
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19. For one, it was an alumni group - and maybe the buds at Federalist Society
recommended this one as well.
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