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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:51 PM
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Do you think Bush spends a lot of time "getting even" with people?
My guess is that the hollow little man in the Oval Office has never forgotten anyone who insulted or slighted him in his entire life. And I'd further venture to guess that he's now using all the power at his disposal to take his revenge.

I pity anyone who ever disagreed with him in the schoolyard, any girl who ever said no to him, anyone who openly scorned him, anyone who refused to write his term paper for him, anyone who ever laughed at him for any reason, not to mention anyone who didn't want to have a beer with him. Hell, he probably remembers anyone who ever stepped on his foot by accident.

We've seen what happens to any public figure who dares to disagree with or criticize His Majesty. It therefore stands to reason that there are many ordinary people out there being made miserable by IRS audits, FBI investigations into their private lives, no-fly lists, and various other forms or harassment.

Anyhow, this is my guess as to what Bush does with himself while Cheney runs the country.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:54 PM
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1. every waking reptilian minute
IMO.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:54 PM
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2. I couldn't agree more!!!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:55 PM
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3. Yes. When Chafee, Snowe and Voinovich balked on supporting his
tax cuts, Bush ran ads in those senators' states to pressure them to fall in line.

Whether Bush, or Cheney, or Rove is at the control panels, the name of game is politics, power, and pressure, and when those prove ineffective, then character assassination will do just fine. The Swiftboard Liars were very well connected to Mr. Rove's office.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:55 PM
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4. Only to the extent that others would do his bidding...
he's never worked at anything in his life, only been waited on and served.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:55 PM
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5. I'm quite sure you are correct (n/t).
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:57 PM
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6. Because he has a little dick, got beat up by girls,
failed where his Dad succeeded, is paranoid from the coke,
never made right for his bender years, and is one sick little fuck.

Just my thoughts :rofl:
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:59 PM
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7. Didn't Abramoff say something to this effect?
When Bush was doing the "I don't remember meeting this guy" act Abramoff said something along the lines of "He remembers everything and everybody he meets" and then there was some reference to Brazil...
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 03:59 PM
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8. It seems obvious that he probably does.
I'd bet he's sent the IRS after people,
had the FBI track down people,
had the secret service harrass people,
had agencies "loose" records that are important to people,
etc.

He's obviously a vengeful, petty little prick. He had that reputation when he was the enforcer on poppy's staff.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:00 PM
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9. He's drunk on power, among other substances.
And "you don't cross George W. Bush," I hear.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:05 PM
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10. No, W. spends time playing CYA 'cause he is scared of Mommy's temper
when she has had too much to drink and Daddy's disapproval when he hasn't.

W. gets particularly upset when he is confronted by a hostile woman, say a reporter who does not fall for his boyish charm. It is because he has bad memories Babs. I would have a complex about women, too, if that woman was my mother. She is scary.

:scared:
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:06 PM
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11. Iraq = Getting even for daddy's failures.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:11 PM
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12. excellent question, Cyrano!
Edited on Fri Apr-28-06 04:24 PM by Lisa
This might the key to unlocking his personality.I suspect that he has always had this vindictive streak since he was quite young -- encouraged by his mother, who felt that letting people "get away with something" was a sign of weakness. It's one of the ways in which he justifies being a bully -- claiming he is protecting himself or the people close to him -- like a warped parody of the "strong father". He's gone beyond "the end justifies the means", to the bullying itself becoming a central focus of his life.

There are a lot of examples of him trying (in sometimes petty or childish ways) to show up people whom he feels have insulted him, even if it just involved showing him up in some way. He plays nasty practical jokes on reporters, and others whom he feels have crossed him. Whether his retaliation is out of all proportion to the perceived insult -- or even whether he punishes someone who really was innocent -- doesn't matter to him, because he perceives the "focus groups" as interchangeable. He doesn't like reporters in general, so he throws a football really hard at one of them.


http://www.americanpresident.org/history/bushgeorgew/biography/lifebeforethepresidency.common.shtml
"“Can you imagine how much it hurt,” Bush joked, “to know that Dad’s idea of the perfect son was . . . Al Gore?”"
"“I would agree that he’s not contemplative or reflective,” Michael M. Wood, a friend at Andover and Yale, told the New York Times in 2000. “He’s not a guy who would go off by himself thinking of something. He’s more likely to be hiding in a tree to jump down on somebody.”"
"As a freshman, Bush approached university chaplain William Sloan Coffin and mentioned his dad, who had just lost a bruising Senate race in Texas to Democrat Ralph Yarborough. “Oh yes, I know your father,” Coffin replied. “And frankly, he was beaten by a better man.” If that seems a tactless and inconsiderate way for a man of the cloth to speak to a college freshman, that is also the way it seemed to Bush, who mentioned this incident in his autobiography. though Coffin says he doesn’t remember the conversation quite the same way"

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2000-10-13/pols_feature8.html
"The only time he showed any sign of anger was when he was asked about then-Gov. Ann Richards' comment about his father being "born with a silver foot in his mouth." The blue eyes narrowed as he responded to the reporter who asked the question. "It was mean and uncalled-for," he said. "It didn't bother my dad. He's lived with 'Doonesbury,' so he's used to that. But it hurt my mother." Gov. Bush talks like his father, who was as prone to malapropisms and non sequiturs, but he thinks like his mother -- which is a way of saying that he believes grudges should be transgenerational and involve corruption of blood and children avenging the wrongs visited on their parents. In 1988 in New Orleans, Bush wanted to get even. And that was just for a slight aimed at his father but felt most keenly by his mother."
"They're keeping lists. Of every insult, no matter how small. Of every criticism, no matter how fair. Of every news clip. Of every joke, no matter how innocent."
"But as chair of the House committee hearing Bush's 1999 welfare reform measures, Naishtat held the line on the governor's punitive welfare proposals, and the entire welfare reform package collapsed. One evening, while Naishtat left the Capitol in the company of friends from New York, Bush slipped up behind him and put him in a playful headlock -- as state troopers stood by and laughed and the New Yorkers worried that maybe this really was Texas. Come January, when the Legislature convenes, the headlock won't be playful. To make matters worse, Naishtat has been one of very few Democrats who has talked to the press -- including "major-league asshole" Adam Clymer of The New York Times."

http://www.nndb.com/people/805/000050655/
"In April 1986, while the couple was eating at a Dallas restaurant with their 4-year-old son, a very pissed-off George W. Bush stormed over to their table and unloaded on Woodruff's husband: "You fucking son of a bitch. I saw what you wrote. We're not going to forget this." (Hunt's transgression was having predicted in the Wall Street Journal that Jack Kemp would win the 1988 Republican nomination instead of Vice President George H.W. Bush.)"


http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091704I.shtml
"Students who challenged and embarrassed Bush in class would then become the subject of a whispering campaign by him, Tsurumi said. "In class, he couldn't challenge them. But after class, he sometimes came up to me in the hallway and started bad-mouthing those students who had challenged him. He would complain that someone was drinking too much. It was innuendo and lies. So that's how I knew, behind his smile and his smirk, that he was a very insecure, cunning and vengeful guy."

http://www.bushwatch.com/bushclean.htm
""Bush never forgot it. He has a long memory for slights....Which is part of the problem with Bush's presentation of himself as a man so 'comfortable in my soul' that he hardly cares whether he wins or loses....It's still pretty easy to get a rise out of Bush." And when a specific group, rather than an individual, disagrees with George, he's capable of withdrawing in a sulk and saying, "'I don't care. I really don't care. Does anyone ever say, 'Fuck you?' I don't care if they do,' he barks.""
"Dubya picks up a football. "Bush has a pretty good arm," reporter Tucker Carlson writes, "except that all the passes appear to be aimed at the gaggle of reporters watching him from the sidelines. A Fox News correspondent looks up just in time to save his pearly caps from a particularly clean spiral. Bush laughs and cocks his arm again. A newspaper reporter turns out to have slower reflexes. The ball hits him square in the chest, almost knocking him down. Bush throws another, even harder. This one beans a cameraman. It's clear that Bush is doing this on purpose....Bush is trotting around the grass with a demented look on his face.""









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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:26 PM
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13. I didn't know many of these facts, Lisa. Thanks for all the references.
You should start a thread to give many more people a look at these refernces. Perhaps title it something like "The vengeful little emporer" or whatever you think will get it a lot of attention.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:36 PM
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16. I think your thread title speaks for itself!
You've put your finger on the problem -- and I think it's both creepy and scary, that Karl Rove has sort of replaced Ma Bar and is egging him on. Karl has always had vindictive leanings himself, and the two of them together are really bad news.

By the way, I hear that Bush really dislikes it when people attempt to analyze his personality, so I applaud your having taken the initiative to discuss this!
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:32 PM
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14. Yup.
I believe that in the end, he is the one who ordered Valerie Plame's name leaked in order to get back at her husband.

Karl Rove & Dick Cheney are his designated hitman.

Do I have any evidence to back this up--no. It's just my reading of the situation.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:35 PM
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15. I wouldn't be surprised. He's a petty little man.



With very limited mental resources. And if he's a closet drunk, that's a bad combination.











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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:37 PM
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17. Exactly why this Tony Snow "lovefest" just doesn't smell right to me...
Peace.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 04:44 PM
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18. It's possible Snow put on a blue dress to do penance.
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Wash. state Desk Jet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:10 PM
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19. Bush Who Does Not Get Mad But Get,s Even
Now here this, Bush has spent his intire life time trying to figure out just how to seem to be like the average citizen,the person who would seem rather cool ,well ajusted,remebers the fiftys, came alive in the sixtys, some of leave it to beaver kind of thing,Paul Anka, early Dick Clark, knock on your door ,I want to be your congressman.A real carpet bagger from hell. You cannot rob from within the inner coolness of cool and just get away with it.The pen is still mightier than the sword as was frankly said.If he ever dares to fool with that he will indeed pay threw the nose.Bush is threw with his power trip period.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-28-06 05:28 PM
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20. "Fucking people like they have never been fucked before"
is the ONLY thing Bush's brain (Rove) thinks about. Can't wait for Fitzmas. Cue the frogmarch.
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