Anyone feel the need to purge? This freeper thread should do it.

[Fuzz]

Words cannot express. Delusional they are, and extremely scary.

They have one of these everyday apparently:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1623492/posts


Pray for President Bush - Day 2038 - 4.28.06

Dear Heavenly Father, we come joyously before You this day, thanking You for Your great mercy and love that allow us to drink of Your loving kindness and feast on the abundance of Your blessings. We seek, O Father, to have the fruit of Your Holy Spirit manifest in our lives from day to day, and hour to hour. Help us, O Lord, to show Your love to those around us, and the joy and peace that only You can provide.

Father, we bring before You our brother in Christ, and Your servant, Redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, President Bush. Lord, we seek to rise above politics or personal opinion to be obedient to Your command for us to pray for him, but the knowledge that he has asked us to lift him up in prayer is such an encouragement to us as we seek to obey You in doing so. Grant him wisdom and discernment, we pray, for surely the demands on him, and the many decisions he must make are too great for a human alone to bear. Grant him clarity of thought and a vision that comes from You, O Lord. Help him to know exactly what he must do to not only keep us safe from harm, but to lead us in righteousness. Help him to always approach You with humility, knowing that he is Your slave, through Jesus Christ, and that his allegiance must be to You first. Keep him faithful in Your word and in prayer as he serves this nation and You, and bless and protect both him and Laura as they grow in love and purity and faithfulness to You.

Lord, we continue to pray for our soldiers who are serving in harm's way, and ask an added measure of Your protection over their lives, calling upon You to protect their bodies and their spirits. Father, as the new government in Iraq and their military strengthen, we pray that our troops might be able to come home more quickly as Iraq stands up for its own defense. Bless the families of those who are serving, and make the days fly swiftly by before their loved one comes home, and wrap Your arms of love around those who have lost loved ones in this battle for peace and freedom. Thank You for each one who serves, and for the sacrifices they are making on our behalf.

Finally, Lord, we continue to pray for our nation, and in particular the Congress. Lord, enfuse them with strength this election year so that they might truly do what is right for the nation, and not what seems to be wanted by the poll numbers. Help them to lead and not follow, and to bring this nation closer to righteousness. We confess our sins as individuals and as a nation, and pray that You would cleanse us from all unrighteousness, in the strong Name of Jesus, who is the Christ, Amen!

1 posted on 04/28/2006 7:38:51 PM EDT by ohioWfan


You sure picked a really NICE picture of the president!

3 posted on 04/28/2006 7:40:25 PM EDT by BigSkyFreeper

I knew I would see that picture again! I put it as my background yesterday.

4 posted on 04/28/2006 7:46:53 PM EDT by ilovew (Knock 'em dead, Tony! Seriously. Who needs the MSM?)

The word 'gentleness' came immediately to mind when I saw it. :)

The President shows the fruits of the Holy Spirit in his daily life, and we need to keep praying for him daily as well.

5 posted on 04/28/2006 7:53:08 PM EDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)

Sweet photo of a very sweet and forthright man. President George W. Bush makes what would seem a dichotomy, look easy.

I pray to our Almighty Father to bless and protect our president, to fill him with the Holy Spirit so that he may walk along Jesus' path.

Keeping our brave troops in my prayers for protection and comfort, along with fellow FReepers who are facing their own health crises or dealing with compromised health of their loved ones.

10 posted on 04/28/2006 8:37:07 PM EDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)

“For God, whom I serve with my spirit by announcing the gospel of his Son, is my witness that without ceasing I remember you always in my prayers.”—Romans 1:9

Heavenly Father, we thank you for all the wonderful blessings of this day. Thank you for answered prayer. We come before you tonight with heavy hearts in prayer for President Bush. It is so good to see such a happy picture of him. Dear Lord, watch over him and give him wisdom daily to perform your duties. His faith in You is so strong.

Heavenly Father, we pray for our nation tonight. We pray this nation would come together in unity and we ask your blessings on all.

We pray for our military men and women who are fighting for the freedom we have to honor You and we pray they will all be home safely, soon.

We ask these blessings in Your Son's Precious Name, Amen.

14 posted on 04/28/2006 8:54:08 PM EDT by Texagirl4W (Wisdom has 2 parts: 1, having a lot to say and 2, not saying it.)

Amen!
The President has a carbon copy puppy of my dog Maxx in that pic...I love it!!!!
Maxx is about 6 now, he's still my best bud!!
God Bless our President and may he find the strength and wisdom through our Lord Jesus to continue on through the battles he's had thrust upon him.

19 posted on 04/29/2006 12:29:00 AM EDT by FlashBack (www.teamamericapac.org)

[w13rd0]

1. They are just doing what they are programmed to do...

...baaaahhhhh, baaaaahhhh, baaaaahhhh...

Oh, and they follow false prophets and shall be condemned to the fires of eternal damnation.

[ginnyinWI]

2. paid operatives

The GOP leaves nothing to chance. If not, I really feel sorry for these people.

[Jara sang]

43. I agree, like that woman on Fahrenheit 911

The one in the Lafayette park who tells the dead soldier kid's mother not believe the Iraqi woman. That woman left a bad taste in my mouth and I can't help but feel like she was there only to disrupt Micheal Moore's film as a paid employee of Bushco.

[Mz Pip]

3. "Gentleness"

is not a word that has ever come to mind in describing the Chimp. Psychotic, maybe. Gentle? Uh, no.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[0007]

26. Gentleness is pure torture to another human being.

Where in the fuck do these ignorant asshole come from?

[Broken_Hero]

4. wow, just wow...n/t

[grasswire]

5. that OhioWFan was criticized by other freepers...

...for being too googly over W's manly attributes a few years ago, as I recall. There's a cadre of blue-hair grannies over there who swoon and drool and obsess over George and Laura's love life. It's pretty nauseating, especially when they sauce it up with religion.

[magellan]

6. Here's your unity, FReaks

[gilpo]

65. Fuckin' A

[JohnnyRingo]

7. Pray for Pres Buxh

They've been doing this since forever.
If you ask me, their prayers are smited everytime a new poll comes out. You'd think God could do something about the Iraq problem too.

They're a bit more civil these days. I remember fall of '04 when their prayers included giving Kerry a terminal disease.

There's no sicko like a religious sicko.

[MsKandice01]

8. The picture on top was enough to sicken me...

Without even reading that "prayer".

[ryan_cats]

33. That poor puppy must be drugged.

That poor puppy must be drugged.

Dogs have an innate sense of whether people are good or not. I can't believe that puppy would even let scrub-ya hold him, he must be drugged.

Look, there's a good 'ol boy who loves puppies!!! We can trust him; make him president for life...

[KingFlorez]

45. Looks like he's about to squeeze it to death

[jmowreader]

50. Separated at birth? You be the judge!

[Erika]

9. Dear higher power (if you are there)

Please remove the Hex of the Bush's on this country, which was once great and respected.

If you need a silver bullet or a stake, we'll provide.

Thanks.

[Fridays Child]

10. Hitler loved (being photographed with) dogs, too.

It's true.

[Old and In the Way]

11. Does anyone think they were praying for Bill Clinton when he was President

Me neither. Unless he/she has an (R) after his/her name, they wouldn't waste their time asking for God's grace. Total bullshit...if there is a God, he's not looking too kindly on hypocrites who use religion to carry out their narrow political agenda that is anti-Christ in nature.

[TexasLawyer]

12. Dear Lord

Save me from Thy followers, who are bent on including me in their unholy deathwish. Deliver us from evil. Amen.

[wake.up.america]

13. This is religion?

[hanginthere]

14. what rankles you?

It seems like an appropriate prayer, for a Christain to pray.
It would be appropriate to pray for President Clinton or President Gore.

Was it offensive because you do believe that a Christain should not pray for political leaders?

Was it the wording? It does follow a syntax you don't hear on the street, but I don't that should make it offensive.

Just kind of curious.

[newyawker99]

16. Hi hanginthere!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[hanginthere]

29. hi right bakc

[Scout1071]

32. bakc? Well, hearty welcome to you.

:popcorn:

[Roland99]

18. Because it's arrogance and projection.

Do you honestly think that if there is a God that he gives two shits about one political party in one country on one planet in one solar system in one galaxy in this entire universe?

And, btw, didn't Jesus teach to pray in private?

[hanginthere]

30. Well Yes, actually

Yes if you are one of those who believe in Protestant Christianity, yes. The Bible is very specific in the New Testament about how God uses existing authority.

I'm not saying that anyone else has to believe this sort of theology, but I do think it is OK if some people do.

As far as public prayer, I think some of what Jesus said was taken out of context. He clearly didn't approve of prayers of the Pharishees. Yet the earliest Christain texts (The Pauline epistles) use the greek word,PANTOTE (pantote), which means always. The implication is there is never a wrong place to pray (such as the public square) but the attitude of the heart while doing so counts.

As I say, you might believe differntly, which is totally OK.
I just think that the Christains should be allowed to practice their faith also, even if you don't particuliarly agree with them.

BTW It does strike me as rather arrogant for you to assume that you not only know God's agenda (as far as what he gives a shit about) and that you believe you can push this special knowledge on other people.

But that's just my opinion.

[Roland99]

38. Well, what Paul preached vs. what Jesus preached are two different

things. But, I'm sure you're well aware of that.

As for that "prayer", it's most likely one of those cheesy email forwards you send to 10 other people.

I mean, take these lines:

"wrap Your arms of love around those who have lost loved ones in this battle for peace and freedom"

What battle for peace and freedom? Iraq? It's about anything *but* peace and freedom.


"Help him to always approach You with humility, knowing that he is Your slave, through Jesus Christ, and that his allegiance must be to You first. Keep him faithful in Your word and in prayer as he serves this nation and You, and bless and protect both him and Laura as they grow in love and purity and faithfulness to You."

First off, deigning to know what's in the mind of the President in such a deeply personal manner is arrogance and likely projection from the author. And, for the President to be faithful in God's word, what word would that be? Thou Shalt Strike Down the Brown People and Control Their Oil? I missed that verse in the Bible. Care to point it out?


Re: Congress
"Help them to lead and not follow, and to bring this nation closer to righteousness."

Uh, what righteousness? The fundamentalist Christian version of righteousness? No thanks. This is a nation of diversity and must be respected as such.


"We pray for our military men and women who are fighting for the freedom we have"

I'm not aware of ANY current involvement of our military wherein they are fighting to protect our freedom. Again, more arrogance, politics and projection.

[hanginthere]

48. On projecting and such...

I need to apoligize to myself for getting so involved with this prayer.
I think the act of prayer is good, and it makes us better people.
On the other hand, it's not like this particular prayer is a model prayer, or even very good.

I guess I was reacing to the original author's claim that this holy act lead them to puking.
( I mean holy to me, you may have different ideas about the whole prayer thing)
Now, if it really was full of evil and hypocrisy I would see the point. But it pretty consistently stuck to the theme that the writer asked God to help Bush live up to the core tenants of his faith.

As someone pointed out, the writer might actually be surprised at the results of Bush actually acting like a Christian. And everyone here would be shocked and pleased. Not that that is going to happen, but its a nice thought nevertheless.

I don't think the ideas it represents about polls are evil, and they seem represent the writer's desire that Bush be as good a president as possible (as is possible for him, anyhow).

I don't think the idea of prayers for the soldiers are evil, and if the writer is mistaken about why these soldiers are in that place, there is no doubt my mind that our soldiers SHOULD be able to fight for peace and freedom (which of course they can't as long as they are in that place). And fighting doesn't have to be done with guns. And of course there is the fact that there are lot of kids and fathers and mothers who are in a very tough place, and they could use whatever help they can get.

BTW, There is a lot we don't know about what Jesus preached. He didn't write anything down. But the idea that what Jesus preached is contrary to what Paul preached is ludicrus. Even though Paul's letters are placed in the Bible after the Gospels, they were written before the Gospels, and during a time when a lot of people who walked with Jesus were still around. The fact that they were accepted so widely by Jesus followers says something about the content. In fact the Gospels were written later (maybe much later) and were accepted as true by people who had built their organization around what Paul had written.

[Roland99]

52. That prayer just smacks of arrogance and pride

There's a not-so-subtle hint that it's directed toward the GOP and its followers (esp. considering where it was posted).

I'll leave alone the whole concept of power of prayer and its effects.

As for Paul, his audience was far different from that of Jesus and his letters reflect such. There's an excellent book by L. Michael White called From Jesus to Christianity that has quite a bit of detail on Paul.

[kestrel91316]

59. Thank you for reminding us that there is a BIG difference between

TRUE Christians and these new PAULIANS aka Christofascists.

[kestrel91316]

58. But it's NOT arrogant for RW Christofascists to assume THEY know

God's agenda and that they can push it on non-RWChristofascists?

I realize that the RW lacks an irony gene, and also lacks the ability to see hypocrisy in themselves and their friends, but it's getting tiresome.

It's pushing an agenda to put (Christian) prayer back in public secular schools. It's pushing an agenda to put the judeochristian "ten commandments" in a secular courtroom. And it sure as hell is pushing an agenda to shove one's prying little nasal parts into everybody's bedrooms, crotches, and medical care.

You have a nice day, now. Enjoy your stay.

[mac56]

24. What rankles me is that it's pandering.

"Was it offensive because you do believe that a Christain should not pray for political leaders?"

Of course they should. But it seems disingenuous to do so this publicly, and in language so laden with Republican talking points.

[hanginthere]

31. I'm sorry,

maybe if I read the thing through again.

But I didn't see any talking points. Now, if it talked about staying Iraq, or lowering taxes, or outlawing abortion, I would say they were putting words in God's mouth.

Maybe I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "language so laden". I'll admit, it is not worded in conversational English, but I don't think that is necessary.

[EstimatedProphet]

34. Talking points

Lord, enfuse them with strength this election year so that they might truly do what is right for the nation, and not what seems to be wanted by the poll numbers. Help them to lead and not follow, and to bring this nation closer to righteousness.

One of the freeper talking points is how decisive/powerful/manly Bush is, because he doesn't pay attention to polls.

This is complete bullshit-he is there as our chief civil servant, not our owner. He works for US. WE are the boss, not him. That's exactly why his poll numbers are in the tank right now, because the country knows he's not representing us-except for the freepers, who long to be ordered around.

[hanginthere]

41. I still that as politically nuetral

I don't think that leadership should be by poll ratings.

I shudder to think what Martin Luther would have done if he relied on polls for his decisions.
I don't think his ideas would have gotten great numbers at that time.

On the other hand, Adolf Hitler probably would have gotten great poll numbers for his program of destruction.

[mac56]

46. It seems like either you don't get it

or you're trying not to get it.

Nobody thinks that leadership should be by poll numbers ALONE. But it's a foolish leader who totally ignores what people want. One "bragging" point the RW trots out regularly is how Dubya is so gosh-darn manly and assertive that he don't need no steeking polls - he does what he knows is right and true. When in reality, he kow-tows to poll results like everybody else (example: talking about mileage standards where he blew them off previously).

In short, they brag about his stern manly disregard for the views of the people, while in reality he caters to them. So he's stupid AND a hypocrite. And they're praying for him to remain that.

[EstimatedProphet]

56. Paying attention to polls is the difference between a leader and an owner

A good leader isn't fixated on polls, but will pay attention to how the people feel things should be done. Bush's attitude has been that he is the President, so whatever he wants, he gets-regardless of what the people think. That's not the definition of President, that's the definition of King.

The President is the chief civil servant, not emperor. He works for us, not the other way around. If people want a king, the need to go somewhere else, because the Constitution was set up to expressly deny anyone kinglike powers.

[kestrel91316]

62. We "elected" (I know, I know) Bush a PUBLIC SERVANT, not f---ing king.

[Fuzz]

63. But later in that thread . . .

this gem . . .

"We acknowledge that he was not appointed, but anointed to fulfill this job as Your servant. We confess that everything he sets his hand to will prosper because he has You as his ability."

<snip>

26 posted on 04/29/2006 2:18:42 PM EDT by Hiskid (Jesus is Lord.)

[mac56]

40. You don't see any talking points.

"our brother in Christ, and Your servant, Redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, President Bush."

"rise above politics or personal opinion to be obedient to Your command for us to pray for him"

"Help him to know exactly what he must do to not only keep us safe from harm, but to lead us in righteousness."

"as the new government in Iraq and their military strengthen, we pray that our troops might be able to come home more quickly as Iraq stands up for its own defense."

"in this battle for peace and freedom."

"they might truly do what is right for the nation, and not what seems to be wanted by the poll numbers."

These are all right out of the RW playbook.

[hanginthere]

42. I still don't see it. Sorry.

Christians are supposed to brothers (and sisters) in Christ
They are also supposed to be servants of Christ.
They are supposed to redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.
This is all appropriate within the context of the person they are praying for.
I could see how you might be offended if he was a Muslim or Buddist, but that is not the case here.

Then there is the question of polls. I suppose if you really think that polls are the way to good leadership, we need to start dismantling our ineffective representative democracy and start over with something more poll oriented. I suppose we have the technolgy, but tides do change. Nixon had great poll numbers before his Watergate problem, and I hate to think what would happen if his poll numbers had determined the direction of the nation.

I think everyone wants the troops out of Iraq. I think this is politically nuetral.

"in this battle for peace and freedom." OK, you got me there. but c'mon, this one phrase buried in the middle of a pretty long prayer.

So with the exception of one badly worded phrase, it doesn't really come off as inappropriate, and I think you are overreacting to call it "out of the RW playbook".


BTW, I did google the issue a little, and there were several links to Hillary Clinton appealling for prayers. Do you find that offensive? I don't think you should. Nor should the Freepers.

Bottom line, I think it is OK for Christians to pray for their government, as long as they don't put words in God's mouth.

[mac56]

47. "I think everyone wants the troops out of Iraq...

..I think this is politically nuetral."

What, are you new in town?! Oh - I see you are.

Read much of the PNAC lately?

No one in this administration wants the troops out of Iraq anytime soon.

[EstimatedProphet]

64. This is absurd

Then there is the question of polls. I suppose if you really think that polls are the way to good leadership, we need to start dismantling our ineffective representative democracy and start over with something more poll oriented.

Polls are a way to tell what the people want. If the President is doing things the people don't want, but he still does them anyway, then he's not representing them, is he?

[kestrel91316]

61. .....especially when Jesus, the MAN himself, specifically and explicitly

said to PRAY IN PRIVATE!!!!!!!!

This showy "praying" is pure politics, and blatant self-aggrandizement.

"Look at me!! I can pray the fanciest and loudest and longest!!! I want the prize!!!!!"

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

37. Hello and welcome to DU!

Let me ask you this.........are you serious?

[kestrel91316]

57. Was it also appropriate to pray for Kerry to get sick and die?

Must have been, if it came from the lips of a true bible-believing Christian, right???

[The Witch]

15. I fear for that puppy. n/t

[ProgressivePatriot]

17. I'll pray...

for impeachement, indictment, prosecution, conviction and execution. In that order.

[mtnsnake]

19. It's has got to be a mole! It's simply too funny to be anything else!

Whoever did that over there, major kudos to you for the laugh. LOL!! LOL!! LOL!!!!

[grasswire]

20. nope, not a mole

That woman is a longtime member of freerepublic.com.

[mtnsnake]

22. Doesn't mean she's not a mole, necessarily

Just means she's good at it, real good!

[grasswire]

66. If you had read her posts for many years, every day...

...you'd know that she's a real person with a son in Iraq. She is what she is. A Bushbot.

[Beelzebud]

21. God reads prayers off the internet now?

Wow, he's really adapting to the new technology!

[librechik]

28. it's just so the rest of the cabalcan join in the morning satanic chant

just replace the "G" or "J" word with The Dark Lord's name, and it's the same right down to the blood sacrifice. All charismatic cults are the same. Babble babble babble hate sacrifice kill. Now keep babbling till you fall on the floor in a faint.

Try it, it works.

[Roland99]

39. G0d is teh ub3r l337

[undeterred]

23. I can't judge the sincerity of another persons prayer

or put myself in the place of God.

I truly hope that he does seek God with humility as I think he would become a very different man, different leader than he has been for the last 5.5 years, during which he has lied, murdered, and done everything in his power to help the rich and hurt the poor...all things that wouldn't seem to be very "righteous" in the eyes of a just and loving God.

[mac56]

25. Amen.

nm

[skypilot]

27. The puppy is just too fucking much.

Why not throw in a rainbow, some flowers, and a unicorn. Ugh.

[NoodleyAppendage]

35. Xtians are "slaves" to God???

"Help him to always approach You with humility, knowing that he is Your slave, through Jesus Christ, and that his allegiance must be to You first."

If Xtians are "slaves" to God, then how can sin happen when they are not necessarily agents of freewill??

Oh, sorry. I forgot we're talking about religion, so things like logic and reason are abandoned.

I HATE (yes, I hate) THIS KIND OF MINDLESS XTIAN BULLSHIT.

J

[Avalux]

36. "He is living proof of the infinite love and acceptance of Jesus"

Those poor people are so misguided....I am mystified as to how they can justify the acts this man has committed as the work of God. They are blinded to the truth.

[Nickster]

44. One word comes to mind, enablers. Just like giving alcohol to an alcoholic

as long as these sheep continue to heap praise and accolades upon Dubya, people like Dubya will continue to flourish.

Like cult members, they are so sad and desperate to have a leader, they will elevate a very very average man and make him into what they WANT to see, not what is actually there. Heck, I even think Dubya believes these kind of people and it just re-inforces his "I don't care what you think" behavior.

[Skittles]

49. FREEPERS ARE SICK BASTARDS

TRULY F***ING SICK

[Greylyn58]

51. That is the MOST repulsive piece I've ever read

This puke must be one of the 32% that refuses to let go of their delusions of the pResident occupying OUR WHITE HOUSE.

And God help that animal. It'll need shots after touching him. There's no telling what kind of diseases he's carrying!!!! Look at how much he infects those around him. Poor puppy!!

I wouldn't let The Pretzel-nut near my dog.

[Cleetus]

53. love the puppy

absolutely fucking crazy. this is what we're up againsy? holy shit, do you think there's any room in this asshole's brain for a fact or two? Not likely. what a fucking retard.

[Robbie Michaels]

54. My Bible Quotes For Freepers

"Wrongdoers listen to wicked talk; liars pay attention to destructive words."--Proverbs 17:4 (NLT)

"Those who mock the poor insult their Maker; those who rejoice at the misfortune of others will be punished."--Proverbs 17:5 (NLT)

[GrantDem]

55. Background???

Someone actually made that pic their background??

:wtf:

[Progressive4Life]

60. Not...feeling...well

:puke: