300 Thousand in New York Today: The End is Near for the Bush Regime

[Jack Rabbit]

Photo from Reuters via MSNBC
Liberty Leading the People (1830) by Eugène Delacroix
From the website of the University of Southern California

[msongs]

1. i thought there was more than 7 million in new york on any given day nt

[saltpoint]

2. It would have been a great pleasure to have joined these folks today.

Spring in New York among liberals and progressives, most marching to assert their objections to horrifying government by the Bush administration. That would have been awfully fine.

New York State is pretty Democratic, and NYC is even bluer, but still, this looks like a staggering triumph no matter what, and I hope the images of this demonstration flood the living rooms and kitchens of red state homes all weekend, as if to say, "THIS is what citizenship is. THIS is what citizenship MEANS. Get off your red asses and change your damned minds!"

Thank you for posting these images.

[Radio_Lady]

14. Jack Rabbit, you're quick like a bunny! Thanks so much for --

your post today! It warmed the cockles of my heart, wherever they are...

[leftchick]

3. I wish I had been there

and I wish the M$M would have fucking reported it! :(

[mcscajun]

11. You mean like this? Here's a sampling of news links on it.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/29/war.protest.ap/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10704049/

Hell, even FoxNews.com had it on their main page, and here's their link:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193686,00.html

NY Daily News:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NY_ANTI_WAR_PROTEST_BAOL-?SITE=NYNYD&SECTION=MIDEAST&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT


We may not always get the coverage we want, but nobody in the Corporate Media (I will never call them Mainstream) seems to have ignored this.

[killbotfactory]

16. thousands (fox), tens of thousands (everyone else)

It's an AP story, The headline says "thousands" while the first line says "tens of thousands". Fox news cut out the "tens of thousands" part. For a protest which brought out 300,000 people.

They report, you decide.

[spooky3]

20. see my post with WaPo's links--similar handling

[mcscajun]

38. They always do. "Tens of Thousands" is too big and clumsy for a headline.

:sarcasm:

At least they put "tens of thousands" in the first paragraph. Most people don't read past that.

Fuck Fox. Everytime and Everyplace.

[proud2BlibKansan]

45. I was there and I say it was more than 300,000

They always get these crowd counts wrong.

[Radio_Guy]

50. I contacted some in the media who were there

They said more like a half million were there. But the ones I talked with don't type up the web reports. :mad:

[gordianot]

4. I was in DC last month, there needs to be a daily presence.

All I saw was a few bumper stickers and one protester at the Capitol protesting Circumcision (very bizarre). Yes people are upset but they are not upset enough.

[G2099]

10. As long as peeps are still getting a paycheck they don't care

[NNadir]

5. Not to quash the hope, but we had at least that many before the war.

We had that many at the outbreak of the war.

All the same the war happened.

I hope for the arrest and trial of the entire Bush regime, but I'm not convinced yet it will happen.

[proud2BlibKansan]

46. I talked to a lot of people at the march yesterday

who had also been in DC and at the march when the war started who said this one was way bigger.

[northamericancitizen]

6. Kicking for Peace

[Burried News]

7. Balls to the wall. Nominated.

Thank you to all who attended.

[rurallib]

8. Media whores will report 3,000 if they report at all.

[mcscajun]

13. See post # 11.

The truth is slowly seeping out...even from the wholly-owned Corporate Media.

[spooky3]

WaPo has a tiny link way down on the p: "10's of 1000s"

"Thousands protest war"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/

Click on the link and you get:

"Tens of thousands in NYC protest war"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/29/AR2006042900497.html

Ah well, journalists aren't good at math.

:sarcasm:

At least the article noted that organizers estimated the crowd to be 300,000.

[tsuki]

41. Like they did at the Jazz Funeral, like they did at Wash DC.

"We lie, you swallow." Corporate Media.

[Imagevision]

9. Like in the 60's, people have to come together, Bush is worse then Nixon!

In the end Nixon was flipping out too. Bush will be something to watch after he loses the House & Senate and Cheney resigns due to health reasons -- who the heck will Bush then turn to? Rove will be gone courtesy of Fitzgerald.

[Poppyseedman]

17. "Like in the 60's" is like 40 years ago. I was there.

The country is different, the people are different, the politics are different, the world is different.

The freaking 60's are dead. Progressives sure do live in the past a lot for being forward looking "progressives"

I am amazed at the number of people on this forum who think the 60's can be reproduced to drive bush out of office aka: Nixon.

It isn't going to happen, no matter how hard it gets for bush, He ain't leaving until Jan. 2009

Instead of looking back to the 60's and doing our best hippie impersonations, we should be building grass root coalitions like the rethugs.

[immoderate]

33. Bush is doing what he can to revive the 60s

You're right, it's a different time. But we're starting to get some anti-war music, demonstrations. I'm starting to see some light go on in people's eyes.

No, I don't see a lot of new hippies, and this may not be the "summer of love," but there is a conciousness being raised. Let us hope. Let us also get out and kick some ass.

--IMM

[saltpoint]

21. I think you hit on a really strong point there with Nixon and Bush

both whigging out toward the end. The future's uncertain for Bush, but it sure isn't looking real hot at the moment. When 300,000 people flood Manhattan for the sole purpose of telling the president he's an incompetent jerk, it usually suggests that critical mass has been achieved.

And that means Bush is in serious political trouble.

I thought of the 1960s protest marches with this event also, Imagevision. It appears to have very much the same feel.

Good post.

[applegrove]

12. I would love to be at any demonstration - unfortunately - I can no longer

go. Great for the people of New York. They were the ones wounded by 9/11. They somehow seem to be some of the only ones who saw clearly through all the dust.

Great for New York. Very heart warming.

[LynneSin]

15. And the press calls it "Tens of Thousands" - who are they kidding

that picture alone is "10 of thousands" we went way beyond just those blocks shown

[jonnyblitz]

19. glad to see you made it home ok...

:hi:

[RagingInMiami]

22. Are you the Jonny I met today?

[jonnyblitz]

23. I sure am!

:hi:

[RagingInMiami]

26. Awesome

I remember it was Jonny something or another. But then I forgot what it was with all the excitement. I am downloading photos as I speak, still operating on eight hours of sleep in two days.

[jonnyblitz]

28. i was operating on two hours of sleep today...

i am glad to be home...

[RagingInMiami]

32. On my third beer

And I'm now headed out to a party in Brooklyn. I will sleep when I'm dead.

[immoderate]

34. Hey, you! You made it to NY? I'm so jealous.

My old home. Brooklyn, eh? I'm a grad of Brooklyn Tech. Stop by The Junior for the world's best cheescake.:hi:

--IMM

[RagingInMiami]

36. Brooklyn's very cool

My first venture into another borough. Just got home from partying. I plan to get at least eight hours sleep and prepare for the immigration rally on Monday. What subway stop is it to get to The Junior.

I ate a huge corned beef sandwich at Carnegie Deli. I was told they had good cheesecake, but after their $12.95 sandich, I had no more room.

I just asked my NY friend what is the best cheesecake in NY and he said, "The Junior." I will definitely try to check it out.

[immoderate]

40. I think it's Hoyt-Schermerhorn, Take the A Train.

The subways are magic. You go downstairs in one place, a few minutes later, you come up somewhere else. Aitn't those Carnegie sandwiches somethin'? You ate the whole thing?

As a former resident of Chelsea, some of my favorite places:
La Taza D'Oro, best Cuban food, 8th Ave, around 19th St (Also the best coffee)
Japonica, Best Japanese, 12th St, University Place
Mayra's, Best Mexican, 8th Ave, 16th Street

Don't miss Washington Square Park.

Disclaimer: I may be off by a block or so on the streets.

Have fun! We should get together for a debriefing when you are back.

--IMM

[jonnyblitz]

35. ha...

:thumbsup: :smoke:

[proud2BlibKansan]

48. Hey I missed meeting you!

We heard you were there. But in a crowd of a brazillion marchers, you were hard to find. LOL

[RagingInMiami]

51. Yes, I heard you were there and I was hoping to meet you

Do you live in NY or did you fly in from somewhere?

[proud2BlibKansan]

52. We flew in from Kansas City

4 planes, not enough sleep 2 nights in a row and crummy airport food. (Speaking of, why the hell are all the restaurants at JFK closed at 7:30 on a Sat. night? Our airport services here in hicksville KC are open 24/7. You can also get a cup of coffee - while at JFK, there was NONE. LOL)

But it was WORTH IT!! It was the most awesome march ever. I think my favorite sign was
BUSH HAS DONE SO MUCH SHIT WRONG, I CAN'T FIT IT ALL ON ONE SIGN

I also loved the Billionaires for Bush.

I am so sorry we missed each other.

I am uploading my pics now and will get them posted either tonight or tomorrow. Have you put yours up yet?

:hi:

[RagingInMiami]

24. Hey LynneSin, it was good seeing today

I took more than 1,500 photos of the protest alone. I will be posting some photos soon.

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. Hey LynneSin!!

It was GREAT to meet you. Sorry I didn't take your picture :cry:

[Jara sang]

18. The revolution will be...

topless.

[readmoreoften]

25. Not to be a downer but more is needed.

I was part of this protest for awhile. I will be a part of the protests on May Day as well. I pretty much protest whenever the protesting is good.

But this isn't enough. It's just not enough. MSM isn't reporting it accurately, but we're also failing to do anything that will make news. 300,000 people in the streets on a sunny saturday afternoon is no longer a story. If we want a story, we need to force a story.

I believe we need a Day of Protest. A Day to Reclaim Democracy. A weekday. No show at work, like the immigrants will do on Monday. (And they have the gravest financial hardship, so if they can do it, we can do it.) We need a weekday walkout. A WEDNESDAY or THURSDAY walkout is preferable, to ruin the momentum of the entire week. And during that walkout, we need leaders who will inspire Americans to undergo a longer walkout. A three day walkout. A three day walkout if the war machine doesn't end, if spying on citizens doesn't end. If it doesn't end, then we disrupt even more.

If we had 1 million people in the streets of NY on a spring weekend, it would mean next to nothing. 2 million and it would catch the attention of the news for a day. It *would* show that a majority of Americans in the northeast vehemently disagree with Bush. But we KNOW that already. They also know that and they do not care. They steal elections now. Majority will means NOTHING.

Pretty protest parties are nice, but we need more. We need a walkout. We need a walkout leading to a longer walkout. And, if we engage Iran in any fashion, we need a General Strike.

We need to shut this country down and take it back.

[jonnyblitz]

29. I have been feeling pretty much the same as you lately

and I also attend most all of the NYC/DC protests. I might not have agreed with you a year and a half ago, though. I have become more jaded and pessimistic about it all, sadly.

[readmoreoften]

31. I, actually, don't feel jaded and hopeless.

I feel like we have not yet begun to fight. Literally. It may be a harsh criticism, but we are not fighting this radical evil harshly enough. Demonstrating majority does not work. Inciting violence will not work. We need to shut it down. We need a one-to-three day strike with a specific goal. Out of Iraq and Don't Even Think Of Iran is a good place to start.

And, yes, you may have to eat PBJ for a week because of the money lost. Maybe we could have food stations at all the protests, with monies donated by our wealthier supporters, so that our protesters wouldn't have to go without food. But the truth is, it won't be the poor who fear a strike. It will be the comfortable middle class who feel that it will be an affront to their privilege... that they might have to suffer, to not go on vacation this year, etc.

We need to stop flexing our muscle and to start using it-- and the biggest muscle we need to use is the brain. 300,000 marching in NY is nice. 300,000 walking out of work in a city hurts the bottom line.

[cliss]

27. 300,000

You're right: the end is near for them. I hope they all watched TV today. I hope they sweated it out.

[Pierzin]

30. Hooooorrraaaah!!!

of course, though tonights nightly news gave it 5 WHOLE SECONDS!!!

[tyedyeto]

37. A little nudge to get this back up to the top of the page. :>)

[soup]

39. N.Y. war protest stretches 10 blocks

N.Y. war protest stretches 10 blocks
By Wire services
Published April 30, 2006

NEW YORK - Tens of thousands of protesters marched Saturday through lower Manhattan to call for an immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, just hours after this month's death toll reached 70.

Cindy Sheehan, a critic of the war whose soldier son also died in Iraq, joined in the march, as did actor Susan Sarandon and the Rev. Jesse Jackson.

"End this war, bring the troops home," read one sign lifted by marchers on the sunny afternoon, three years after the war in Iraq began.

The demonstrators stretched for about 10 blocks as they headed down Broadway. Organizers said 300,000 people marched, though a police spokesman declined to give an estimate. There were no reports of arrests.
http://www.sptimes.com/2006/04/30/Worldandnation/NY_war_protest_stretc.shtml

--

Apr 30, 4:02 AM EDT

Tens of thousands in NYC protest war

By DESMOND BUTLER
Associated Press Writer

>>"We are here today because the war is illegal, immoral and unethical," said the Rev. Al Sharpton. "We must bring the troops home."

Organizers said the march was also meant to oppose any military action against Iran, which is facing international criticism over its nuclear program. The event was organized by the group United for Peace and Justice.

"We've been lied to, and they're going to lie to us again to bring us a war in Iran," said Marjori Ramos, 43, of New York. "I'm here because I had a lot of anger, and I had to do something."

The Reverend Jesse Jackson says the Iraq war has been too costly.
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Steve Rand, an English teacher from Waterbury, Vt., held a poster announcing, "Vermont Says No to War."

"I'd like to see our troops come home," he said.<<
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/ANTI_WAR_PROTEST?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

note: video and audio clips at second link

They just can't seem to bring themselves to say HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS, can they?
Thank you all for being there!!!!

[spanone]

42. Acutally my paper had a small story on PAGE FUCKING NINE.

More important things on page one, like Cheneys' charitable contributions....the media is totally fucked in this nation.

[Jack Rabbit]

43. A kick for Stephen Colbert

Who capped off the day with his Figaro performance before the very face of the tyrant.



Napoleon called the Figaro plays the true start of the French Revolution.

Portrait of Beaumarchais from ruevieilledutemple.fr.
Stephen Colbert from the Toronto Globe and Mail.

[happydreams]

44. K&R!! I'll bet it was more than 300,000.

[proud2BlibKansan]

49. Oh it had to be way more than that