Is Colin Powell trying to save his soul?

[globalvillage]

He's all over the news this morning about how he insisted that Rummy send 'enough' troops into Iraq to win the peace. No one listed to poor Colin.

WRONG, asshole. These too-little, too-late excuses are not going to redeem you. You helped lie us into this God-awful war, and it's on your head, too, so Fuck you. I hope you burn right along side of bush*, rummy, condi and the rest of your co-conspirators.

Cobra II page 130 "Senator John Kerry, declared he had received personal assurances from Colin Powell that force would be the last resort."

Colin Powell = LIAR

:grr: :grr: :grr:

Powell Advised Bush to Invade Iraq With Larger Force (Update1)
April 30 (Bloomberg) -- Former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said he urged President George W. Bush to deploy a greater numbers of troops for the 2003 invasion of Iraq than advocated by the Pentagon.

``I made the case to General (Tommy) Franks and Secretary (Donald) Rumsfeld before the President that I wasn't sure we had enough troops,'' Powell said in an interview with Britain's ITV television network broadcast today. ``The President's military advisers felt that the size of the force was adequate. They may still feel that years later. Some of us don't. I don't.''

Powell said that generals and other Department of Defense advisers were ``anticipating a different kind of aftermath'' to the Iraq war.

A confidential memo written on Jan. 31, 2003, by David Manning, then a top U.K. foreign policy adviser, said Bush and U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair expected a quick victory and a complicated but manageable transition to a new Iraqi government, the New York Times reported on March 27.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aaa...

Powell says he urged more troops for Iraq
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-04-30-powe...


Powell: I Wanted More Troops In Iraq
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/24/iraq/main5418...

[MADem]

1. Too late Colin--if you'd been serious about the Monkey's warmongering

You would have argued to take the DEFENSE job instead of STATE, and could have actually INFLUENCED troop manning decisions.

He had to be top dog, though, senior cabinet member, so he didn't go that way. And he could have had any cabinet post he wanted, because the Monkey was DESPERATE to get him on the team.

Cry me a river.

[TheDebbieDee]

8. I think there are rules or laws about ........

someone taking the Sec of Defense job within X number of years of leaving active duty military....

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. Rules? Laws? Bah! n/t

[MADem]

23. It's in 10 US Code, but Colin could have served without a Congressional

waiver starting in 03, and sooner if Congress had changed Section 113 to accomodate him. A GOP Congress cheerfully would have shaved two years off that requirement without batting an eye.

Under existing regs, you have to be out of uniform for ten years. The other option would have been to leave GOP former Senator and SECDEF Bill Cohen in the job until the statutory timeframe had expired, allowing Powell to hang around, get up to speed, and jump in just in time to start a war with Iraq.

But as I said, he had no real interest in playing second banana in the Cabinet scheme. The lead dog gets the best view, after all.

[peaches2003]

2. Waaaay too late

You should have resigned.

[BillZBubb]

3. Another "party of personal responsibility" moment.

These clowns can't help pointing the finger at any direction other than themselves. Mr. "Large Intestine" sold the war to the sheeple, so he's got no excuse now for what ensued. He's as guilty as anyone else in the Bush regime, maybe even moreso, since he should have known better.

[lonestarnot]

4. I'm asking dead people, "Is it too late?" No response... Too late asshat

[CoffeeCat]

5. The other day, Rush Limbaugh...

...was talking about Powell's backpedaling. He mentioned that Powell is probably gearing up to write a "tell-all" book. I thought that was very interesting. Limbaugh seemed to give out the information, to soften up his listeners for the time when Powell starts revealing the truth and speaking out against the administration.

I know Powell had done dastardly things. His presentation at the UN--which led us into war--was unforgivable and an abomination. However, Powell relied on BushCo and the intelligence community to provide him with accurate information. He trusted them. I'm not saying that Powell is a victim. Clearly, he could have pressed further--for proof of the statements that he would present--before leading us to war with those words.

However, Powell--in my opinion--feels duped. He's not happy with this administration.

Maybe Powell will speak out and do a "mea culpa" in the near future.

It can't make up for what he's done. Nothing ever can. However, if he tries to help this country out of the war--and help to enlighten the Bushbots about Bush's crimes--then I can't fault Powell for that.

It's the least he can do, in my opinion. The very least.

[globalvillage]

13. It had better be a hell of a book

HE pushed this war for W*. I don't think he was duped. I think he was complicit, that he knew what was going on. I think he lied to Congress to the UN, and to the nation, knowing full well the consequences.
That said, I agree that doing something is better than doing nothing. If there's a book, I'll read it. If it convinces me that he was used by the admin, I'll retract. But if he is going to say he was lied to, he should be saying it now, not talking about troop numbers.
I'm not holding my breath.

[GeorgeGist]

34. Powell knew exactly...

what he was duping. And still is. More troops for a crime he promoted.

[AndyA]

6. Too late for Powell. He's already sold his soul to the Devil: G. W. Bush.

He should have worried about all of this long ago, when he could have actually maybe done something about it.

Colin Powell is a sell-out to the George Bush Empire, a division of The Bush Crime Family™. Get used to the heat, Colin, you're gonna roast in hell with the rest of them.

[ProSense]

7. Powell Advised Bush to Invade Iraq With Larger Force?

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THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NO INVASION YOU LIAR!!!!!!!!!!

[MH1]

10. EXACTLY. What a friggin a**hole.

Tells Kerry force is absolutely "last resort."

Tells Bush, "we need more troops."

:argh:

That soul is way past saving.

[peaches2003]

9. No way was CP 'duped'

Give me a break. CP was not duped nor did he only rely on what Bushco told him. He's been around way too long with too many sources in the military and Pentagon for him to have thought for one minute that Bush wasn't lying his ass off. CP's always been an opportunist no matter what it cost him in the end.

[Catrina]

16. I agree, he admitted lately that 'we all knew the intelligence was wrong'

All he did was to cross out of his UN speech the only thing he knew could easily be proven because they all knew that the NIE had refuted it, the Niger documents. If we knew when watching his drawings of trucks etc. that it was a lie, he knew. That's why he insisted on having Tenet sitting 'on camera' with him, as Wilkerson has said. If he was going to take a fall he wanted to cover himself with Tenet. He knew the administration was going to blame the Intelligence community and he wanted 'in' on that cover.

I wonder how he feels each time he hears of the death of another soldier? He put his career ahead of the lives of his own troops. He had the power to change the minds of the indoctrinated, simply by quitting.

The Ambassodor to Greece quit ~ he was smeared of course but he can sleep at night and has not need to try to explain himself. That has to be worth more than any career move or financial reward. We need to highlight those who did what Colin Powell should have done ~ they were the heroes and they needed support but didn't get it.

[Benhurst]

11. Even he must know it's too late to save his soul. He's attempting to

salvage his reputation.

[theHandpuppet]

14. Does Pontius Pilate come to mind?

Too late to wash all that blood off your hands, Colin.

[globalvillage]

15. I was thinking Lady Macbeth n/t

[Malikshah]

17. Sending one or sending 1 million- it was still illegal

and Colin's soul is lost for good.

[vickitulsa]

18. What do you expect from the officer who was the FIRST to

write an after-action report on My Lai and begin the cover-up of that massacre in Vietnam?

I WISH he would experience a truly repentant conversion and write a tell-all book revealing the crimes of this administration in all their bald-faced glory, but I do NOT expect that.

I once respected Powell quite a bit, even though I've long known about the My Lai cover-up in his past. I figured, well, he was young, he was trying to be a "team player," he was trying to avoid hurting the military he loved and had decided to make his career. But when he made that speech before the United Nations and presented what HE KNEW to be doubtful if not downright deceptive "evidence" that Saddam had WMDs, any respect I had left for him went out the freakin' door in a hurry!

What I've learned since then about how he questioned beforehand the veracity of the intelligence he was being given to present to Americans and the world, and then I recall how easily he seemed to put those concerns aside and throw all his "integrity" and sincerity and convincing military authority into selling this war to us, I just get so angry at him I almost despise him more than Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld. HE is the one who could have put the lie to the Iraq WMD fakery and probably could have prevented Americans from buying the lies and backing the invasion if he had resigned and walked away from an administration that would lie us into a major war.

As others have said, too late, Colin, and fat chance you'll be redeeming yourself ever. Fool us once, shame on you, fool us twice....

[ananda]

19. What!!??

I certainly don't remember Powell ever saying anything like that publicly... and he can -remember- saying anything he wants privately.

I -do- remember Shinseki speaking out, and then having to retire.

I -do- remember many articles and posts telling how the Cheney admin was pressuring folks to go along with their war agenda and propaganda... including the intelligence services and the legislators.

Sue

[rusty_parts2001]

20. I've promoted Powell to a 5 star

prostitute, that is.

[IChing]

21. He must of heard Neil Young's new alblum where he is mentioned

Lookin' for a Leader

Lookin' for a Leader
To bring our country home
Re-unite the red white and blue
Before it turns to stone

Lookin' for somebody
Young enough to take it on
Clean up the corruption
And make the country strong

Walkin' among our people
There's someone who's straight and strong
To lead us from desolation
And a broken world gone wrong

Someone walks among us
And I hope he hears the call
And maybe it's a woman
Or a black man after all

Yeah maybe it's Obama
But he thinks that he's too young
Maybe it's Colin Powell
To right what he's done wrong

America has a leader
But he's not in the house
He's waling here among us
And we've got to seek him out

Yeah we've got our election
But corruption has a chance
We got to have a clean win
To regain confidence

AMERICA is beautiful
But she has an ugly side
We're lookin' for a leader
In this country far and wide

We're lookin' for a leader
With the great spirit on his side

Someone walks among us
And I hope he hears the call
And maybe it's a woman
Or a black man after all



colin sold his soul to the devil and the devil never gives it back

[Stinky The Clown]

22. Colin, THIS is why you will, for all of history, be seen as a lair

[happydreams]

24. Yes, if his soul

is where his ass is.

[BuyingThyme]

25. Well, Colin, it's gonna come down to choosing between

the threats you receive from Bush and Rumsfeld, and the threat of spending the rest of your life in prison.

It's unclear which is worse.

[incapsulated]

26. He's trying to save his REPUTATION

Which is why he ran away from them in the first place.

Too. Fucking. Late.

Asshole.

[ProSense]

27. It seems like an attempt

to change the discussion. This should not be the focus now.

Powell Forces Rice to Defend Iraq Planning

By LIBBY QUAID, Associated Press Writer
14 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Just back from Baghdad and eager to discuss promising developments, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice found herself knocked off message Sunday, forced to defend prewar planning and troop levels against an unlikely critic — Colin Powell, her predecessor at the State Department.

For the Bush administration, it was a rare instance of in-house dissenter going public.

On Rice's mind was the political breakthrough that had brought her and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to Iraq last week and cleared the way for formation of a national unity government.

Yet Powell sideswiped her by revisiting the question of whether the U.S. had a large enough force to oust Saddam Hussein and then secure the peace.

Snip...

"I don't remember specifically what Secretary Powell may be referring to, but I'm quite certain that there were lots of discussions about how best to fulfill the mission that we went into Iraq," Rice said.

more...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060430/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iraq

http://www.johnkerry.com/action/deadline/?sc=e.20060418

[Media_Lies_Daily]

28. Much too late. He lost it while attempting to help cover up My Lai.

[Disturbed]

29. Colon Powell's defining moment: Failure and Dishonor.

[Bleacher Creature]

30. If so, he's got MILES to go. n/t

[sarge43]

31. He didn't have any problem

publicly criticizing Clinton about the Don't Ask, Don't Tell brouhaha.

Weasel -- and my apologies to weasels everywhere.

[yodermon]

32. If he testifies against Darth

cheney for the Fitz GJ I will be inclined to reduce him by a few circles of hell.. maybe he'll get into Purgatory.

[Neil Lisst]

33. he's a rat swimming furiously away from a rapidly sinking ship