Official Alito Hearing Thread – Day 3 – Thread 2

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Thread 1
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x106359

[OKNancy]

1. Brownback is scum

Very obviously trying to make a case that since other bad decisions have been overturned ( Plessy)
that it's OK to overturn Roe.

Problem is IMO those cases were about restoring rights. Overturning Roe is about taking away rights.

[underpants]

5. He is paying off his "pro life" supporters

HE is guaranteeing himself election for life by this display.

I wonder if there will actually be a question for Alito here

[CottonBear]

11. w need to call the Dem Senators and tell them to emphasize that point.

Does anyone have a list of the order in which the senators will ask questions today?

[DemonFighterLives]

16. Don't know, but I bet the next one is better nt

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. He's using charts!

making the arguement Roe V. Wade is NOT settled law :mad:

[in_cog_ni_to]

8. He's such a scumbag.

:grr:

[Sydnie]

9. Did you hear that C-Span caller yesterday

that talked about how prepared the repugs were because they had charts? Guess she missed that Schumer did too, huh?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

14. They only see/hear what they want to

so sad, really.

Have fun @ work! We'll hold down the fort here. :)

[Pacifist Patriot]

18. Exactly.

If they want to see the sky as green they'll argue it isn't blue until they draw their last breath.

[goclark]

80. CSPAN operates from Rover's office IMO

The more I listen the more I hear NO Democrats views of worth.

I recall hearing that they have paid callers from the Republican side, now I believe they pay people to pretend they are Democrats.


Worse than Faux.

[underpants]

3. Brownback is questioning the precedents of Roe

[jayfish]

4. Is He Going To Actually...

ask a question? This is ridiculous.

Jay

[underpants]

7. NO no question now moving onto Alito's general view of the Constitution

See my post right above. That whole thing was for his whacko "pro life" Kansas base.

[Anita Garcia]

15. Question?

Question, question, where is the question?

[DemonFighterLives]

6. Brownback with his bulletin boards

LIBERALS criticize Roe v Wade BS
What an ass.

[sasha031]

10. how do you look at the Constitution

I keep it in my bathroom, it is on a roll, next to the toilet

[Sydnie]

12. War on Christmas!

O'Lielly will be so happy!

[underpants]

17. YES!!! War on Christmas!!!!!

Senator Brady checking off his RW checklist

[Sydnie]

ROFL That picture is perfect! n/t

[sasha031]

20. yes we don't have any other problems or wars going

this is such nonsense

[Cocoa]

22. now we're getting to the important stuff!

the crucial issues that affect Americans in the most profound ways. :sarcasm:

[underpants]

27. Alito can pet the fundies here without actually commenting on Roe

of course Senator Brady just spelled out the "Some people have doubts" about Roe being a precedent or having precedents behind it. Phelps is writing him a check as we speak.

[DemonFighterLives]

13. Didn't Brownback say that RvW needs to be looked at

in regards to repealing it. I don't know how his playing up this part can help Scalito. I didn't catch the non answer though.

[underpants]

19. non question = non answer

Brownback never asked a question he went on to Alito's "general view" of the Constitution.

[CottonBear]

26. He compared overturning Plessy v Ferguson to (in so many words)

overturning Roe v Wade because both (in so many words) were/are bad law.

:grr: He never really asked a question. He just prattled on....idiot....it was all a big bone thrown to his crazed fundy base.

[Pacifist Patriot]

21. Rats, another Republican is up next. When do we get back to the good stuff

I can only take so much ass kissing before I :puke:

[sasha031]

24. how do you know, where is the schedule

[Viva_La_Revolution]

25. last questioner is a Repug (first round)

then they move on to the second round, each senator gets 20 min.

(Cspan flashes it on the screen every once in a while)

[sasha031]

29. thanks

:hi:

[DemonFighterLives]

30. They flashed Coburn is next

I missed who was after that.

[Pacifist Patriot]

33. Watching C-Span. They displayed "up next" briefly.

[DemonFighterLives]

23. Scalito saying that everyone got to celebrate

Buddhists, Muslims, Latinos, etc.
I don't know if he said anything about Christians.

[CottonBear]

31. He forgot Festivus therefore he must be waging a war on Festivus. n/t

[DemonFighterLives]

32. He mentioned many I don't know how he forgot that.

:dem:

[DemonFighterLives]

28. We got checks and balances, any high schooler would know that

Brownback- go back to school then fool. I'm sure you will find that the system is having much difficulty.

[Pacifist Patriot]

34. Yes, having checks and balances on paper...

and respecting that paper in practice are two different things.

[DemonFighterLives]

35. Last thing from Brownback

That calls for :applause:
Eminent Domain
Hopes the court will review that.
Coburn up! R from OK

[Viva_La_Revolution]

36. New London case

taking private property for private use... brownback wants to see that reviewed. Wow I actually agree with him on that one.

[DemonFighterLives]

41. Same here - maybe he has a libertarian bone in his body somewhere

That ruling sucks.

[Pacifist Patriot]

63. LOL! I caught that and immediately thought of a broken clock.

;)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

Coburn (R) now

[Viva_La_Revolution]

39. ooohh. big word for a repug!

[Pacifist Patriot]

40. Are there no moderate Republicans on the committee?

[CottonBear]

48. Coburn: Is stare decisis mentioned in the constitution?

***NO you dumbass. it is a judical concept not part of the constitution,*** :grr:

Alito: "The founders gave judical overview to the judiciary." :wtf:

"we should not look to foreign laws..."

[Pacifist Patriot]

59. Let's overturn the precedent of precedent after 219 years.

[Pacifist Patriot]

37. "The little guy!" We're called private citizens you elite jerk.

[leftstreet]

54. Why don't they just say "the little people"

It'd be more honest.

[Pacifist Patriot]

56. "Peons" would connote their position even more honestly.

[leftstreet]

67. I forgot. They call us "human resources."

:tinfoilhat:

[Divernan]

69. Alito helped the little guy when lg's atty. was Alito's former clerk.

After Durban (D) of Il did an excellent job in raking Alito over the coals for ruling consistently against the individual, the poor,the consumer; the next R Senator brought up a case where Alito ruled (in the minority, AGAIN) in favor of a Nigerian drug dealer/informer who was fighting deportation. But the R actually flaunted the fact that the drug dealer's attorney was Alito's former law clerk. Typical Republican old boy network.

[The Witch]

38. Can I MST Coburn? Oh please?

> he's a commentator on one of those... news shows.

On one of them newfangled tee-vees.

[Pacifist Patriot]

42. Okay, I'll bite.

What does MST mean? I'm slow this morning.

Coburn looks like he spends a lot of time and money on his hair.

[The Witch]

44. MST = Respond in Mystery Science Theatre 3000 style :)

I wish I had a radio show, then i would.

[DemonFighterLives]

45. That;'s a helmet Hair helmets are a symbol of the have mores

:hide:

[Surya Gayatri]

75. LOL!!

Yes, either they back comb it and spray--or if they're a bit "thin on top" they wear carpets! I think they feel less vulnerable that way, insecure cretins that they are. SG

[The Witch]

43. Coburn is going to try to discredit stare decisis.

It's not in the Constitution. It was part of old English law.

I'd be surprised if Coburn didn't call that "foreign law" and declare it Frenchish and therefore Bad.

:puke:

[txindy]

46. Want fries with that? Freedom's on the march.

:rofl:

[The Witch]

49. OMG! He actually DID!!!

I was totally joking...........!!!

[CottonBear]

53. See post 48: he lead Alito to compare stare decisis to foreign law. n/t

[Quetzal]

61. what an idiot

he is slamming English common law even though it is a major part of the American judicial system and the constitutions of many other western countries.

what the hell is coburn doing on the judiciary committee - he doesn't even know what he is talking about.

[Pacifist Patriot]

76. Hmmm...that would be that same system of justice we're...

hoping to export and supercede Sharia, correct?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

47. Many people are disturbed that some Sup. Court members

reference foreign law.

ahh. Coburn you ass, ALL OF OUR SYSTEM IS BASED ON FOREIGN LAWS!!!
well except for the stuff we took from the American Indian system.

Alito is agreeing!

Where do these guys think the basis for our laws comes from?! the fricking fairies? We took the best of different systems

[txindy]

50. Don't mess with their reality, now.

The Earth is only 6,000 years old and the USA is the oldest, smartest country. The rest of the world just copied from us. :crazy:

:rofl:

[Pacifist Patriot]

52. Damn! I keep forgetting that.

Must be that mushy liberal brain of mine.

[txindy]

62. Nah.

It's Satan trying to influence you. :spank: Fossils are Satan's tools!

:rofl:

[Pacifist Patriot]

65. Good one!

[nickinSTL]

71. no, no...

fossils were put there by God to test your faith.

Duh! :eyes:

(I was actually told this by a guy in my biology class in high school...first time I'd heard it, and I was stunned, to say the least)

[txindy]

81. I stand corrected then. Satan isn't the one with the rock fetish. Got it.

:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:

I can well believe you were stunned. Probably as stunned as I was a few years back during the Pokemon craze when a neighbor, who had been gung-ho in getting her kids the latest/greatest Pokemon cards, suddenly threw everything Pokemon-related in their home in the trash because "Pokemon EVOLVE!" She was HORRIFIED. Apparently, it was a danger to her beliefs: Cartoon characters evolving. :crazy:

:rofl:

[Pacifist Patriot]

51. Except the League of Five (Six) Nations would probably be just as

happy to not be associated with what the colonizing Europeans turned out. ;)

[CottonBear]

55. Wouldn't the Bible be considered a foreign document? n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

57. Now who's messing with their reality?

[CottonBear]

66. We should begin asking fundies why they want foreign laws. LOL! n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

72. Easy answer to that...

Invade the Middle East and eventually turn Israel into the 63rd state. Voila! Indigenous document.

[nickinSTL]

58. ugh...they'd probably claim Jesus was from Alabama

:puke:

[Pacifist Patriot]

60. Oh be serious!

Everyone knows he's from Georgia.

[The Witch]

64. If it weren't for you guys I would just be dying listening to this.

Thanks for the giggles. much needed. :grouphug:

[Pacifist Patriot]

68. If I couldn't laugh during the Republican's mutual jerk off...

I'd cry!

[Surya Gayatri]

86. Same here,

except for this mutual support group, I couldn't swallow this regurgitated BS without gagging. SG
:loveya:

[DemonFighterLives]

82. That was funny

fairies fly out of their butts. It is by intelligent design.
These poor guys are the failed results of no child left behind.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

70. Presidents prerogative to nominate whomever he wants...

no matter how bad it would be for the country. lovely

[Pacifist Patriot]

73. I have a fantasy about my opening statement as a Senator on the Judiciary

Committee. It involves a slam against President Bush and PNAC attempted to pack the courts to create an ideological dictatorship.

[nickinSTL]

74. sure, it's the President's prerogative...

but it's the Senate's responsibility to protect the country if it IS bad...like this one.

[Pacifist Patriot]

77. It's that niggly checks and balances thing.

[MiniMe]

78. I'm not sure if Brownback or Coburn asked (I'm at work).......

But didn't Alito just answer a question about gay marriage that might come before the court?

[kcwayne]

79. Where is the smart Alito?

After all the pre-hearing hype about what a brilliant and accomplished man Alito is, I have yet to hear him say anything that leads me to believe he is anything other than average. He strikes me as a mediocre thinker. He seems technically competent in some memorization skills, but has an eerie presence and inability to articulate anything that suggests he feels anything other than contempt for people.

While a cheese sandwich looks brilliant to these logic and reason challenged ideologues that are selling him, I absolutely don't see it. I do see someone that will obey his masters, and will take perverse glee in striking out against some imagined immoral force that permeates the world.

[underpants]

83. Great observation

He can't seem to remember what group, if any, that he belonged to in college....but don't let that suggest that he was doing anything that those "elite" "priviledged" students who "were very careless" did.

[Pacifist Patriot]

87. I agree completely. I'm also not impressed with his speaking.

He doesn't come across as particularly confident. I don't expect a public speaker but I would like a few less Ummms.

[Surya Gayatri]

89. I've been mulling

that over as well. Where is that much-vaunted, incisive legal mind? He stumbles and stammers around, has memory gaps as big as a house,and can't even lie convincingly (the first requirement for a good lawyer. SG
:wtf:

[Dinger]

90. Hatch On Imus Said Scalito Is Smarter Than Roberts, And . . .

even more impressive! Wow, funny, isn't it?:rofl:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

84. apparently you thought so hard about that poor disabled boy

and then ruled against him! WTF

[Viva_La_Revolution]

85. Spector up now, then Leahy 20 minutes each

[Surya Gayatri]

91. I can't stand Spector's

voice and diction. He sounds like he's trying to talk with a mouthful of mashed potatoes. I bet he spits when he talks--don't get too close! SG

[goclark]

92. Wife looks like a zebra! What's up with that mess!

They must have decided that they needed a distraction from his testimony.

She is dressed in a striped suit, black and white, awful.
Who is the zebra sitting next to her?

[Surya Gayatri]

94. Like a hunting trophy

that should be stuffed and hung on the wall. SG

[Viva_La_Revolution]

95. Better that that horrid aqua-from-head-to-toe outfit she wore yesterday!

but not by much

[txindy]

97. Wife's in the mottled brown/tan outfit.

Looks like a hyena with mange to me. The one on the right of our screen, in the black and white atrocity, is his sister, I do believe.

Here's the wife:

http://media.monstersandcritics.com.nyud.net:8090/galleries/121797/wap20060109517150.jpg

Don't they look comfortable together?

:rofl:

[Viva_La_Revolution]

88. American Disabilities act

Bernie case 1997 - Scalia criticized it.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

93. Detainees - Habeas corpus taken away

[merbex]

96. Shallow of me I know, but his wife is what I would consider a "fussy"

dresser

Very distracting,very frou- frou

And not very flattering

Wonder what that says about her personality besides the fact that I think she has poor taste

That she kids herself on a daily basis?

[goclark]

99. She thinks she is a style leader --ROTFL

She is a lawyer,right?

I think she is trying to get attention with her bold clothes.

Probably wants to get hired by a Washington law firm that will bring even more money into the family.



She is lost in the 50's and doesn't know it.

[Surya Gayatri]

100. Yes, I think she

thinks she's the height of right-wing fashion chic--probably orders her clothes from a fundie catalogue to ensure modesty and insipidity. Her prissy, self-satisfied smirk speaks volumes. SG
:puke:

[underpants]

104. They were out late last night at the Roxbury

[Viva_La_Revolution]

98. TV in the Supreme Court chambers! Hell no!

You would never get me away from the TV again!

even eating and bathroom breaks would become optional!

[mrcheerful]

101. What was so funny?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

102. 15 min. break

I hope CSPAN will be taking calls.... so entertaining hearing the freepers rant!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

103. Thread 3 is up!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x107348

[ncrainbowgrrl]

105. Locking- time for thread #3

It's over here!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x107348