We plan on not shopping tomorrow

[Erika]

to support the immigrants. Our government wink-winked to bring them here. The backlash should be against our government, especially Reagan who started it in 1986.

[fooj]

1. Not shopping either.

Peace.

[TlalocW]

2. I won't have time to shop

So I guess I'm part of it too. :)

TlalocW

[Viva_La_Revolution]

3. No shopping tomorrow for me...

I stocked up today, and unless I decide to take a walk in park behind my place, I won't even be leaving the house.

Solidarity.

[DanCa]

4. I dont have any money to shop with :)

At least this time I wont be not buying things voluntarily..
:hug:

[Brigid]

5. Well, I was planning to go to this restaurant tomorrow . . .

then I realized it was a Mexican restaurant. I think my lunch plans will have to change; it'll probably be closed. :D

[PretzelWarrior]

6. I'm going to go to Portland parade route and

say Viva Immigracion!! I'll stand on the sidelines and root for them. And I'll have tacos for lunch.

[TomInTib]

7. Every single retailer in our town is locally owned.

There is no way I would boycott any of them.

We have an ordinance prohibiting any chains.

And every single immigrant in those businesses will be working tomorrow.

Fuck the rest of America, we are our own.

[Erika]

9. You could have patronized them today.

It wouldn't have hurt their revenues and you could have shown support for them by not buying tomorrow.

Our cleaning crew, illegals, will be showing up tomorrow only because they are afraid of being tossed out. But one of the gals has given birth here and her son is now an American citizen. She hopes to become one also.

[saracat]

12. You hire illegals? That is a crime . Sorry but it is outright WRONG.

and plays right into the Bushco plans for this nation to make s divided into poverty and wealth. I have many friends who employ immigrants and I will be renting a room to one of them but none are illegal.I am so angry at this point I would turn in employers who hire illegals. This is unfair to the illegal and unfair to both citizens and those who came here legally. You don't have the right to make your own laws! That is anarchy and it is not what we stand for as a nation or as Democrats!

[TomInTib]

13. shown support for them by not buying tomorrow. ????

What are you talking about?

These are independent retailers who, for the most part, do not employ ANY undocumented people. And those that do, treat their people very well.

"Not patronized them today"?

Come on, Erika, I am not a "patronizing" kind of guy. I am a consumer and a supporter.

I shop at our grocery store every day.

Today was Opening Bay on the Bay (San Francisco Bay).

I walked down to New Morning Cafe for breakfast. New Morning is the best. And they were packed.

Marcos skipped over a list of four tables to seat me.

Our grocery store stocks things just because we ask.

The bookstore gives our dog treats.

Every merchant in our town is my friend.

But, then, I live in a place like no other.

I think that boycotting individual businesses for a non-specific (as far as the individual retailer is related or concerned)cause is just plain misguided.

[shamrock]

14. If I understand it right....

I believe the plan is to show us that without the illegal immigrants we will have to mop our own floors, and clean our own toilets and we'll lose so much money that we'll realize how much we depend on them. I may be wrong, but that's how I understand it.

[TomInTib]

15. That is a given, but why...

should I boycott my local merchant for that cause?

[shamrock]

17. beats me.

I don't support illegal immigration. Anyway, it sounds to me kind of like biting off the hand that feeds you. Even boycotting the corporations will only hurt illegal immigrants. Those are the people who hire them and fight for them to stay here. I don't understand the reasoning.

[Erika]

21. Boycotting the corporations will send a message

Ronald Reagan completely screwed this country by his 1986 amnesty.

[shamrock]

23. I thought that the illegal immigrants

are demanding amnesty?

[Erika]

25. I think they are demanding respect

The U.S. employers have been the exploiters and profiteers. Just as RR knew.

[shamrock]

26. The way I was taught

is that you don't DEMAND respect....you earn it. Anyway, there are too many different messages...some are demanding respect, some are demanding amnesty, etc. Some say the illegal immigrants are not illegal and we should go after the corporations that hire them, but that's confusing because why should we penalize a company who hires someone who is not illegal. Confusing.

[pitohui]

29. wow YOU don't mop your own floors or clean your own toilets?

who are you, bill gates?

get a clue train, everyone i know, including widows in their 80s mops their own floors and cleans their own toilets

if you are so far above reality at least have enough of a clue to stfu

there is actually a real world down here, did you know that?

[shamrock]

31. Were you replying to me?

If you were, yes, I mop my own floors and clean my own toilets, and clear my own brush and paint my own house and cut my own grass and cook my own meals. I even cut my own hair. I was commenting about what I thought the boycott was about. I understood that the immigrants want us to understand that we can't manage without them doing all that for us. They don't do it for me.

[Erika]

20. So don't support the oppression of illegals

OK?

[TomInTib]

22. Uhh... I would never support oppression of anyone...

Every member of my whole gottdanged family is illegal.

[Erika]

24. And what response do you wish?

Maybe that RR did the "right" thing in 1986?

[TomInTib]

30. Whoa...

I just replied that I would not voluntarily avoid my local retailers.

We are totally behind the What-Ever-in-the-Heck-You-Wanna-Call-It is, it just doesn't effect us, locally.

We are completely behind everything that May Day is all about.

Again, we are in a very rarefied environment, locally.

[roody]

8. I am going to work, teaching public school.

I won't spend any money. Taking a day off involves writing detailed substitute plans. I would be the only one to suffer for not going. I expect many kids will be out.

[hansberrym]

10. I'll shop 'til I drop,

You are right to place much of the blame on our own government, especially Bush and the rest of the One World Order crowd that want to use the illegals as cheap labor AND as pawns in their quest for world government.

The presence of 12 million illegals ought to be a grave concern to a president so (supposedly) concerned with national security, but actually the presence of large numbers of illegals plays into Bush's plans to merge the USA, Mexico, and Canada into an EU style regional government.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/7914/trinational_call_fo ...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/30/dobbs.cancun /


While the issue of illegal immigration must be resolved humanely, we ought not let the One World Order crowd and the internationalist corporations play on our natural sympathy with the underdog (in this case the illegal immigrants) or any other trickery they might employ to blind us to their ultimate goal.

Shop tommorrow, and tell Bush to shove his plans to destroy the USA where the sun don't shine!



" ...that the nation, shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people by the people for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/gadd/gatr1.html

[Erika]

11. No, we won't shop tomorrow

What part of the message did you miss?

[hansberrym]

16. Yes, I will shop tommorrow.

What part of your argument did I miss?
I responded to each part except the suggestion for a backlash against a dead guy (reagan) which was really less than pointless.

However a backlash against the scum in the Whitehouse right now would make good sense. So I plan to do what I can to upset the New World Order scheme of Bushco.

[Erika]

19. You're going to shop 100% against the movement of the immigrants

and call it anti-Bushco? OK.

[TomInTib]

18. Better yet, Erika...

Let's not shop any local retailer who penalizes ANYONE associated with tomorrow's action.

[sandnsea]

27. How will we know?

That's the point. One day not shopping sends the message to all of them that we want labor exploitation stopped. It helps all local retailers compete in the long run. It isn't about boycotting spending, go spend on Tuesday.

[TomInTib]

32. So don't feed your child/dog/cat/fish tomorrow just to show 'em..

you are pissed off at something that you do not agree with.

[sandnsea]

35. Nobody's going to starve

Shopping on Sunday or Tuesday isn't going to hurt anybody. Staying out of the stores is the point, not hurting anybody's business.

[pitohui]

28. oh i see another person who doesn't think a black man should make a $

cynical much, i guess i am but i'm here on the ground zero and i know what people tell me everyday IRL not that they'll say it on the internets where they can phrase it to make themselves look all holy roller for cheaping out on paying labor

we need mexicans because expletive deletives are lazy
they say

i have to hear it every goddamn day

i will shop tomorrow

the black family didn't choose to come here and sure as hell didn't break the law to come here

[shamrock]

33. Well, don't feel too bad....

the white Americans have been hearing the same thing. Actually, I've been reading a lot about how ALL Americans are lazy and won't do the hard work that the Mexicans do. Kind of makes me chuckle as I'm out there chopping and burning brush (I'm 61 yrs. old).

[texanwitch]

38. I am so sick of hearing over and over how lazy Americans are, I am

tired of it. I work 10 hours days, and I work hard.

I will be shopping tomorrow, going to the lumber yard. I will be spending around $500 for my back room, going to get it finished. This lazy American will be doing all the work herself, on weekends.

This march tomorrow is about building a power base of voters, if you don't think so remember the sea of Mexican flags from the first march. This march is about political power, nothing else.

I am union and proud of it.

[Zookeeper]

37. I'm with you, Pitouhui....

I've been reading other forums where illegal workers and their advocates keep repeating the lie that "Americans are lazy." What they really mean is that Black, American Indian and poor white Americans are too lazy. They never mention the rest of the sentence, "to work for slave wages that won't support a family or give them any opportunities for the future."

Their arguments are disingenous. They never acknowledge that their willingness to work for lower wages hurts African-Americans and LEGAL immigrants.

Business is mainly to blame for this problem, but there is no reason that the illegal workers themselves can't be expected to understand or acknowledge the difficulties they are causing for working class American citizens.

[leftofthedial]

34. me either

of course, I have no money, so I couldn't shop anyway.

[OhNoTheyDidNot]

36. o thank gawd, now they can continue to make 2 dollars and hour while you

look the other way. GOOD job protesting - Cheney thanks you !!