Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

What I don't get...

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU
 
misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 08:42 PM
Original message
What I don't get...
...I have a friend from New Zealand who is in the states on a work visa. Every so often, she has to return home to New Zealand to spend some time on her family's sheep farm before she can re-apply and come back again. It sucks because she has become a valued member of the community and made a decent life for herself. The real Catch-22 is that she has set-up house with an American and they're really happy together, but because she and her partner are both lesbians, they can't get married to ensure her citizenship.

However, that's the system and she works within it.

Why should some illegal immigrants be exempt from this due simply to their point of origin?

My fiancee and I know a local gentleman who is an Arabic immigrant. He's a good member of the community, runs F&B for a local Marriott hotel and has also opened a restaurant on the side. He works his ass off and has done it within the system. His wife is still in Lebanon and they are going through all the bureaucratic crap trying to get her over here. He told my fiancee that all this bitching from Mexican illegals is a slap in the face to him.

My fiancee's family is Lebanese. They came here under harsh circumstances and did what was required by the government to settle here. There are people all over our town who came from other locales, places every bit as dangerous as Beirut, like Cambodia, Vietnam, Yugoslavia and Afghanistan. However, the vast majority of them did it within the system. They worked toward their citizenship and cherished it once that goal was reached.

So now, if someone longs to escape dreadful conditions in the Sudan or Chechnya they should have to go through official channels, but those from Mexico feel as if the same rules don't apply to them?

It doesn't seem fair in the least.

I don't dig illegal immigration. It's dangerous for everyone involved. I also think it hurts American citizens by keeping wages low. "There's just some jobs that Americans won't do?" Wrong. There's some jobs that Americans won't do FOR THE PITTANCE SOME EMPLOYERS WANT TO PAY. The massive exploitation of illegal immigrants is little more than "outsourcing" brought within our borders.

Ask a union guy what he thinks about illegal immigration and see what he says.

I don't give a damn where immigrants are from (we're all from Africa originally anyway, right?) but I do care when folks blatantly ignore the system and expect others to make special exemptions for them.

I don't see this as conservative or liberal, Republican or Democrat, but merely egalitarian.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 08:53 PM
Response to Original message
1. Those that call for "open borders"
never quite say whether that means open to nationalities other than Mexican. Start asking if Bulgarians, Asians, and Guatemalans should be welcomed without limitation and there's more than a little evasion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. You mean like...
...the crickets chirping beneath this post while posters rush elsewhere to gratify obvious flamebait?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 08:54 PM
Response to Original message
2. I agree with you.
However, that must make me a horrible freeper racist (at least according to some here).

People should be welcome, but through LEGAL CHANNELS!

I'm sure everyone here will agree that the administration should be held to the rule of law. However, some of the same people want people who are in the country unlawfully to be granted amnesty. So, punish some and reward others for lawbreaking? Seems like a bad idea.

:patriot:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 09:23 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (01/01/06 through 01/22/2007) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC