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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:05 PM
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Letter to Frist re: illegal immigration
A retired border patrol agent shows some common sense
This letter sent to Tennessee Senator Bill Frist from a retired border patrol agent, and it has more common sense than all the bull being spewed from the Senate, with the exception of a few sensible representatives.
Dear Senator Frist:
There is a huge amount of propaganda and myths circulating about illegal aliens, particularly illegal Mexican, Salvadorian, Guatemalan and Honduran aliens.
#1.
Illegal aliens generally do NOT want U.S. citizenship. Americans are very vain thinking that everybody in the world wants to be a U.S. citizen. Mexicans, and other nationalities want to remain citizens of their home countries while obtaining the benefits offered by the United States such as employment, medical care, in-state tuition, government subsidized housing and free education for their offspring. Their main attraction is employment and their loyalty usually remains at home. They want benefits earned and subsidized by middle class Americans. What illegal aliens want are benefits of American residence without paying the price.
#2.
There are no jobs that Americans won't do. Illegal aliens are doing jobs that Americans can't take and still support their families. Illegal aliens take low wage jobs, live dozens in a single residence home, share expenses and send money to their home country. There are no jobs that Americans won't do for a decent wage.
#3.
Every person who illegally entered this nation left a home. They are NOT homeless and they are NOT Americans. Some left jobs in their home countries. They come to send money to their real home as evidenced by the more than 20 billion dollars sent out of the country each year by illegal aliens. These illegal aliens knowingly and willfully entered this nation in violation of the law and therefore assumed the risk of detection and deportation. Those who brought their alien children assumed the responsibility and risk on behalf of their children.
#4.
Illegal aliens are NOT critical to the economy. Illegal aliens constitute less than 5% of the workforce. However, they reduce wages and benefits for lawful U.S. residents.
#5.
This is NOT an immigrant nation. There are 280 million native born Americans. While it is true that this nation was settled and founded by immigrants (legal immigrants), it is also true that there is not a nation on this planet that was not settled by immigrants at one time or another.
#6.
The United States is welcoming to legal immigrants. Illegal aliens are not immigrants by definition. The U.S. accepts more lawful immigrants every year than the rest of the world combined.
#7.
There is no such thing as the "Hispanic vote". Hispanics are white, brown, black and every shade in between. Hispanics are Republicans, Democrats, Anarchists, Communists, Marxists and Independents. The so-called "Hispanic vote" is a myth. Pandering to illegal aliens to get the Hispanic vote is a dead end.
#8.
Mexico is NOT a friend of the United States. Since 1848 Mexicans have resented the United States. During World War I Mexico allowed German Spies to operate freely in Mexico to spy on the U.S. During World War II Mexico allowed the Axis powers to spy on the U.S. from Mexico. During the Cold War Mexico allowed spies hostile to the U.S. to operate freely. The attack on the Twin Towers in 2001 was cheered and applauded all across Mexico. Today Mexican school children are taught that the U.S. stole California, Arizona, new Mexico and Texas. If you don't believe it, check out some Mexican textbooks written for their schoolchildren.
#9.
Although some illegal aliens enter this country for a better life, there are 6 billion people on this planet. At least 1 billion of those live on less than one dollar a day. If wanting a better life is a valid excuse to break the law and sneak into America, then let's allow those one billion to come to America and we'll turn the USA into a Third World nation overnight. Besides, there are 280 million native born Americans who want a better life. I'll bet Bill Gates and Donald Trump want a better life. When will the USA lifeboat be full? Since when is wanting a better life a good reason to trash another nation?
#10.
There is a labor shortage in this country. This is a lie. There are hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American housewives, senior citizens, students, unemployed and underemployed who would gladly take jobs at a decent wage.
#11.
It is racist to want secure borders. What is racist about wanting secure borders and a secure America? What is racist about not wanting people to sneak into America and steal benefits we have set aside for legal aliens, senior citizens, children and other legal residents? What is it about race that entitles people to violate our laws, steal identities, and take the American Dream without paying the price? For about four decades American politicians have refused to secure our borders and look after the welfare of middle class Americans. These politicians have been of both parties. A huge debt to American society has resulted. This debt will be satisfied and the interest will be high. There has already been riots in the streets by illegal aliens and their supporters. There will be more. You, as a politician, have a choice to offend the illegal aliens who have stolen into this country and demanded the rights afforded to U.S. citizens or to offend those of us who are stakeholders in this country. The interest will be steep either way. There will be civil unrest. There will be a reckoning. Do you have the courage to do what is right for America? Or, will you bow to the wants and needs of those who don't even have the right to remain here? There will be a reckoning. It will come in November of this year, again in 2008 and yet again in 2010. We will not allow America to be stolen by third world agitators and thieves.
David J. Stoddard
U.S. Border Patrol (RET)
Hereford, Arizona
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:51 PM
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1. What about social justice? There are 12 Million here
Edited on Mon May-01-06 09:58 PM by joemurphy
Do we deport them all? So these 12 Million really don't want to naturalize. They want to continue being Mexican citizens but just want welfare, free schools and handouts. Is that what they're marching for?

Sheesh. This is common sense? Sounds like the same crap I can hear any night of the week from Lou Dobbs.

Oh, and by the way, we did steal Texas, California, Arizona, and New Mexico from Mexico. Remember "Manifest Destiny"? Abraham Lincoln called it an unjust war. Are the Mexican history books wrong?

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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:25 AM
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4. And who did the Mexicans steal it from?
How many hundreds of tribes were there before Columbus. The Aztecs had moved into Mexico barely a century before. Then the Aztecs went ot war with all their neighbors to capture human sacrifices. But don't feel too sorry for the neighbors, they worshiped the same gods and were doing the same. They just weren't as good at it as the white man, whoops, I mean Aztecs.

Did the Apache, Cherokee, Comanche, Navajo, etc. ever feel a part of "Atzlan"? I wouldn't think so. Hey, I'm not an "America, love it or leave it" type of guy. But I do think America is entitled to hold on to its national identity, which includes the use of the English language.

Where else but in the USA are uninvited guests allowed to set the house rules.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 09:58 PM
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2. You are correct it's not racist to want to secure the borders.
I have friends who are legal immigrants or children of illegal immigrants, and many are the most vocal against granting illegals amnesty.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 11:16 PM
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3. Who's granting them "amnesty"?
I haven't heard any plan that grants them "amnesty". They are given status and allowed to work. After 10 years or so they get to naturalize after paying a hefty fine.

Personally, I think they should be granted amnesty. What's the point of keeping 12 million people in a shadow economy?
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:39 AM
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5. HUH!
<i>They are given status and allowed to work. After 10 years or so they get to naturalize after paying a hefty fine. </i>

That's amnesty. Calling it something else does not change anything.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 01:48 PM
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6. By your definition, I guess, anything less than deportation
is an amnesty. How do you define it?
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:22 PM
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7. When caught,
illegal aliens should be deported. They have broken the law, and any thing less is an insult to the law as an institution, to the American people, to immigrants who played by the rules.

Here's my plan. Build a wall, deport illegal aliens when caught, require proof of citizenship for all government-paid benefits except emergences medical care, abandon bilingualism in education and all government documents and proceedings, require applicants for citizenship to be able to speak English, impose and enforce severe employer sanctions. If there is no reason for illegals to be here, they will go home.

Aliens that are deported will not be allowed to return for 15 years. Those that leave without deportation procedures can apply through the regular application process for a visa.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:06 PM
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8. Applicants for citizenship have to speak English
A citizenship test written in English which contains an English language section is required for citizenship. Applicants for permanent residency don't have to speak English. I have a Mexican friend whose father became an American citizen but her mother has not, even though she has been here long enough, because she does not believe that she can pass the citizenship test on account of her poor English skills. She is a permanent resident though and will remain so for the rest of her life if she so chooses. I am betting there are a number of permanet residents who have not become citizens for that same reason.
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